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Evo1883

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,471
clint van damme said:
Have you watched his and Micahs roadto Wembley on YouTube?
8 short episodes, it's decent.
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Il give it a watch tomorrow
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,472
Evo1883 said:
Roy Keane is quality
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Keane was definitely on form during the semi-final in 2018 - Wright’s meltdown was brilliant.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,473
clint van damme said:
Have you watched his and Micahs roadto Wembley on YouTube?
8 short episodes, it's decent.
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Roy Keane actually has a decent sense of humour. Very witty.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,474
Ccfcisparks said:
I think I do.
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Why?
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,475
Austria , what's the point of them?
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,476
Anybody else think Croatia are crap? Still annoys me to this day they beat us in the World Cup
 
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Evo1883

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,477
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Anybody else think Croatia are crap? Still annoys me to this day they beat us in the World Cup
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Thought they were shite today
 
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clint van damme

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,478
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Anybody else think Croatia are crap? Still annoys me to this day they beat us in the World Cup
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For such a small nation they're incredible

Modric is a world class player, yes, getting on now,but no small feat keeping him quiet today.
 
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Frank Sidebottom

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,479
Paul Anthony said:
Close!
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Thought he was German... and retired.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,480
clint van damme said:
For such a small nation they're incredible

Modric is a world class player, yes, getting on now,but no small feat keeping him quiet today.
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Don’t get me wrong, Modric was world class. But he’s getting on now. I always consider them in the same group as Switzerland and Poland, that group just behind us. Yeah they’re a tricky side but England should be beating them.
 
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CJ_covblaze

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,481
oscillatewildly said:
Were you there, CJ?
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Does Rupert take the Andrex into the forest?
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,482
Evo1883 said:
Thought they were shite today
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I think part of that is testament to us. We played well and deserved to win.

Hopefully that'll boost our confidence going into the next game.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,483
Feisty game this one
 

stay_up_skyblues

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,484
The ref’s boots in this one are quality. Old school.
 

COV

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,485
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
I think part of that is testament to us. We played well and deserved to win.

Hopefully that'll boost our confidence going into the next game.
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I was thinking about this. I'm not sure confidence is such a factor any more.

Yes- years gone by confidence and attitude were massive, but it was very much down to the individual and the hairdryer treatment. Nowadays though the players are swamped with sports psychologists, therapists, they live 24/7 in a goldfish bowl, they are under pressure the likes of which we can only imagine and they have professionals ready to jump in the minute they feel a bit down in the dumps. And the psychology side is taken way more seriously. In some games the manager doesn't even say much at all at half time, the sports psychologists spend time with players. I think your modern day football player is as mentally tough as they come, if they're not they fall by the wayside long before getting near the top.

Nowadays its much more straightforward- ability & tactics are everything. I'm not convinced that confidence makes much of a difference any more.

You can even see it with Cov- we got battered at QPR- and years ago that would have been it, heads would have gone down right away. But we beat Bristol City next game and looked like we were on a 10 game winning run.

Basically I think confidence is now almost the same as fitness- some teams will have a slight edge but there won't be that much difference any more.
 
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stay_up_skyblues

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,486
Good goal.
 

COV

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,487
stay_up_skyblues said:
Good goal.
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Watching it with sound down & I spent 20 mins thinking Austria were in white & that Macedonia just scored

Austria's strip shouldn't work, black & mint green.... but it does. Best strip in the tournament so far
 

Evo1883

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,488
Calamity goal for Macedonia

Pandev who is 78 years old , with the goal
 

COV

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,489
Evo1883 said:
Calamity goal for Macedonia

Pandev who is 78 years old , with the goal
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TV blaming the keeper but that was the defence's fault, proper clownlike attempt at a clearance
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,490
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Don’t get me wrong, Modric was world class. But he’s getting on now. I always consider them in the same group as Switzerland and Poland, that group just behind us. Yeah they’re a tricky side but England should be beating them.
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They’re far superior to Switzerland and Poland.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,491
COV said:
I was thinking about this. I'm not sure confidence is such a factor any more.

Yes- years gone by confidence and attitude were massive, but it was very much down to the individual and the hairdryer treatment. Nowadays though the players are swamped with sports psychologists, therapists, they live 24/7 in a goldfish bowl, they are under pressure the likes of which we can only imagine and they have professionals ready to jump in the minute they feel a bit down in the dumps. And the psychology side is taken way more seriously. In some games the manager doesn't even say much at all at half time, the sports psychologists spend time with players. I think your modern day football player is as mentally tough as they come, if they're not they fall by the wayside long before getting near the top.

Nowadays its much more straightforward- ability & tactics are everything. I'm not convinced that confidence makes much of a difference any more.

You can even see it with Cov- we got battered at QPR- and years ago that would have been it, heads would have gone down right away. But we beat Bristol City next game and looked like we were on a 10 game winning run.

Basically I think confidence is now almost the same as fitness- some teams will have a slight edge but there won't be that much difference any more.
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Yes, I think you have a point actually. There is definitely more to the mental side of things now, but I wouldn't underestimate the power of playing after a win against a decent team.

I still believe that edge plus the crowd will help though. Any advantage you can have is very welcome.

Even Sterling, and I genuinely mean this, will be boosted massively by his goal. That can only be good.
 
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COV

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,492
The Austria manager looks like he's forgotten to put a shirt on and is trying to hold his jacket closed to hide the fact
Sick Boy said:
They’re far superior to Switzerland and Poland.
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Yes they are, but I see his point- you can't quite work out how.

They aren't fast, they aren't massive, they are a very measured side and I think that is deceptive- you don't look at them and think "wow", then before you know where you are you've been passed off the pitch and lost to them.
 
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mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,493
CJ_covblaze said:
Get in there. Buzzing! Got some work to do yet but plenty of positives to take from the performance. Trippier, Phillips, Sterling and Rice all very good. Solid from the rest. Once Mount and Foden get going we’ll be well on our way. On to Friday.
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Were you there mate? How did the atmosphere feel in the ground?
 

COV

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,494
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Yes, I think you have a point actually. There is definitely more to the mental side of things now, but I wouldn't underestimate the power of playing after a win against a decent team.

I still believe that edge plus the crowd will help though. Any advantage you can have is very welcome.

Even Sterling, and I genuinely mean this, will be boosted massively by his goal. That can only be good.
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Oh yeah, I agree- I just don't think that the manager delivering rousing teamtalks or Crazy Gang style team spirit makes anywhere near as much of a difference any more.

With the resources these top teams (which are now essentially multibillion corporations) have available, its massivly unlikely that anyone will be allowed near a pitch unless they're in immaculate psychological condition as well as physical condition.

But yeah- I get your point. I just don't think its as much of an edge as it used to be.

And you could actually counter my argument by saying that even though psychology is much more level across teams, the margins are also much much finer- so comparatively speaking the right mindset is still a matchwinner, because with such a tiny gap between teams the tiniest thing makes a difference.

So having just disproved my own argument, I will pipe down on the matter
 
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usskyblue

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,495
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Even Sterling, and I genuinely mean this, will be boosted massively by his goal. That can only be good.
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,496
COV said:
Oh yeah, I agree- I just don't think that the manager delivering rousing teamtalks or Crazy Gang style team spirit makes anywhere near as much of a difference any more.

With the resources these top teams (which are now essentially multibillion corporations) have available, its massivly unlikely that anyone will be allowed near a pitch unless they're in immaculate psychological condition as well as physical condition.

But yeah- I get your point. I just don't think its as much of an edge as it used to be.

And you could actually counter my argument by saying that even though psychology is much more level across teams, the margins are also much much finer- so comparatively speaking the right mindset is still a matchwinner, because with such a tiny gap between teams the tiniest thing makes a difference.

So having just disproved my own argument, I will pipe down on the matter
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mark82

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,497
COV said:
Watching it with sound down & I spent 20 mins thinking Austria were in white & that Macedonia just scored

Austria's strip shouldn't work, black & mint green.... but it does. Best strip in the tournament so far
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Only problem with it is that it's pretty much the same shirt as a number of other shirts in the tournament, just a different colour. No creativity, just template kit.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,498
Sick Boy said:
They’re far superior to Switzerland and Poland.
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Disagree. They all have 1 world class player and a load of average players around them.

always have a solid side, but I never see anything to think they’re a top side.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,499
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Disagree. They all have 1 world class player and a load of average players around them.

always have a solid side, but I never see anything to think they’re a top side.
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Am I missing something, who is Switzerland’s world class player?
 

usskyblue

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,500
Ccfcisparks said:
Am I missing something, who is Switzerland’s world class player?
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Roger Federer m8
 
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CJ_covblaze

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,501
mark82 said:
Were you there mate? How did the atmosphere feel in the ground?
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As good as it can be there (crap). Hopefully it’ll be a lot better with 3000 Sweatys there on Friday rather than a couple of hundred Croatians.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,502
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Disagree. They all have 1 world class player and a load of average players around them.

always have a solid side, but I never see anything to think they’re a top side.
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Personally I’d put them in the same category as England.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,503
Ccfcisparks said:
Am I missing something, who is Switzerland’s world class player?
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Valid point. Switzerland are one of those teams who seem to qualify all the time, cause problems. But you’d expect England to beat them.

all round, I see them as a solid squad. Croatia are the same but have Modric, who isn’t the player he was 3 years ago.
 
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COV

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,504
Sick Boy said:
Personally I’d put them in the same category as England.
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seems reasonable.

We have a lot of very talented young players but I don't yet see a team, Croatia don't have that same depth of player but they are a team. Almost opposites in that way but about the same level I'd say.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jun 13, 2021
  • #1,505
Sick Boy said:
Personally I’d put them in the same category as England.
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No chance, their team has got older and not much better since 2018. Like us, they had an easy route to the final.

Our team in 2021 is a lot stronger than it was in 2018. For starts, Lingard and Alli - two stalwarts in 2018 - haven’t even made the squad this time around.
 
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