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  • Start date Nov 29, 2015
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torchomatic

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #71
No, but I don't think it'll make any difference.

Skyblueweeman said:
I have to say, it's not looking great for the council, is it?
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Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #72
Skyblueweeman said:
I have to say, it's not looking great for the council, is it?
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I think it will be found they have done nothing wrong, I'd be shocked if it wasn't though.

The evidence seems to mount up a little bit.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #73


The evidence your Honour.
 

Captain Dart

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #74
Nick said:
So when you look at the evidence, the outcome that there was no PR attacks found is a bit strange? Especially as it is there in emails that they were doing it.
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Do I have to repeat myself, I have not read it. No comment at present.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #75
NEW: PR firm Weber Shandwick hired to manage 'media war' for Ricoh firm AND council, secret council doc shows. Always denied by @coventrycc
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..onto 2013 £14.4m taxpayer Ricoh bailout when @covtelegraph editor agreed with @coventrycc chief exec Reeves to sit on story till deal done
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They are tweets from Les Reid, not from the meeting.
 

hill83

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #76
Captain Dart said:
Do I have to repeat myself, I have not read it. No comment at present.
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But have you read it and are you ready to comment now?
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #77
Captain Dart said:
Do I have to repeat myself, I have not read it. No comment at present.
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Why? Can't you read? Or don't you like what you are reading?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #78
hill83 said:
But have you read it and are you ready to comment now?
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I was going to ask another question about it, but you beat me to it

It looks like Simon and the telegraph are going through them as they discuss them so it's easier to keep up that way.
 

hill83

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #79
If this is found in Sisu's favour and the council and the telegraph have all been very naughty, then what? Wheatsheaf for a knees up? Barbecue round Lucas' gaff?
 

eastwoodsdustman

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #80
Nick! That can't be right. Simon said on here that there was no council deal with the telegraph.

I'm confused now.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #81


I like point 15

"If that is what the email said then that must be what it meant"
 

Nick

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #82
eastwoodsdustman said:
Nick! That can't be right. Simon said on here that there was no council deal with the telegraph.

I'm confused now.
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That was Les Reid Tweeting those, I guess it will show how true with how long they stay up before lawyers kick off....
 

hill83

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #83
Nick said:
I was going to ask another question about it, but you beat me to it

It looks like Simon and the telegraph are going through them as they discuss them so it's easier to keep up that way.
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Yeah I was joking. If he says he hasn't read it then I believe that he hasn't read it. I haven't read it.
 

Ian1779

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #84
hill83 said:
If this is found in Sisu's favour and the council and the telegraph have all been very naughty, then what? Wheatsheaf for a knees up? Barbecue round Lucas' gaff?
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They will sell the entire City of Coventry to Wasps directly, and then say SISU bullied them into it.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #85
hill83 said:
If this is found in Sisu's favour and the council and the telegraph have all been very naughty, then what? Wheatsheaf for a knees up? Barbecue round Lucas' gaff?
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Statue of Joy? Burger named after Tim Fisher at the Ricoh? #waggotday ?
 

Ian1779

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #86
eastwoodsdustman said:
Nick! That can't be right. Simon said on here that there was no council deal with the telegraph.

I'm confused now.
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Perhaps one of the reasons a certain journalist when on 'gardening leave' :thinking about:
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #87
hill83 said:
Yeah I was joking. If he says he hasn't read it then I believe that he hasn't read it. I haven't read it.
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What did you think of it though?
 
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SkyBlueScottie

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #88
Further court appearances with Sisu claiming financial damages I would have thought.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #89
hill83 said:
If this is found in Sisu's favour and the council and the telegraph have all been very naughty, then what? Wheatsheaf for a knees up? Barbecue round Lucas' gaff?
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Pack out the Butts!
 

Nick

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #90
Deleted member 5849 said:
Pack out the Butts!
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Easy now.
 

hill83

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #91
Nick said:
What did you think of it though?
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Haven't read it. The pictures look damn sexy though. And the font used has a comic sans vibe.
 

hill83

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #92
Deleted member 5849 said:
Pack out the Butts!
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Hello sailor
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #93
hill83 said:
Yeah I was joking. If he says he hasn't read it then I believe that he hasn't read it. I haven't read it.
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Newcastle fans will love it, with all the black & white stripes.
 

eastwoodsdustman

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #94
Ian1779 said:
Perhaps one of the reasons a certain journalist when on 'gardening leave' :thinking about:
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I think he questioned too much of what was going on and his employers didn't like it. They just needed someone to toe the party line I reckon.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #95
eastwoodsdustman said:
I think he questioned too much of what was going on and his employers didn't like it. They just needed someone to toe the party line I reckon.
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Well they found Simon "Wolfie Smith" Gilbert - a true man of the people.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #96
hill83 said:
Haven't read it. The pictures look damn sexy though. And the font used has a comic sans vibe.
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I'd have prefered the page titles like this:

 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #97
What a great day to get internet hooked up in my new place! Its just like the old days of being in court.

Having read the evidence, well the bits of it that aren't blacked out, it doesn't look good for the council. No wonder Fisher was always moaning about Webber Shadwick.

Makes me pretty angry to be honest. When this all kicked off I was totally on the side of the council but the longer this has gone on the more my view has changed as bit by bit evidence has dripped out. I posted on here a while back, when it turned out a lot of what Fisher had been saying about ACL was to everyone's shock actually true, that it was started to look like a PR battle SISU had lost and all this certainly makes that seem ever more likely.

Looks like the CT are less than blameless as well. Surely not in the interests of the club for them to be doing deals with the council to sit on stories?

Nick said:
Still interesting about the Supporters Direct person working with the Council / ACL's PR company. Again, maybe SISU had a point when they said they didn't want to talk to certain fans groups because of it?
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As we get bits of information coming out things SISU have said, and been ridiculed for by most - myself included, turn out to seem very plausible.

hill83 said:
If this is found in Sisu's favour and the council and the telegraph have all been very naughty, then what? Wheatsheaf for a knees up? Barbecue round Lucas' gaff?
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Can't imagine the council are going to rule against themselves. Its probably just another step along the way in SISU trying to get all the information they want public knowledge out there and available for them to use in court.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #98
chiefdave said:
Can't imagine the council are going to rule against themselves. Its probably just another step along the way in SISU trying to get all the information they want public knowledge out there and available for them to use in court.
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Yeah I thought that, they are slowly getting more and more out in the open.

I'd like everything to be out in the open, whether it is the council, SISU or Higgs so people can see what exactly what went on rather than an article in the CET or Observer.

Makes you wonder about this PR battle too, I bet they don't come cheap.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #99
In one of the documents it says how they will have the backs of West and Reeves for something, it does seem like they will all back each other up anyway.
 

lifeskyblue

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #100
.Makes you wonder about this PR battle too, I bet they don't come cheap.[/QUOTE]

I wonder how much has been spent on the PR battle, the legal fees and everything else. If it had all come to the club instead we might be the wealthiest club in Britain.


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Specs WT-R75

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #101
It's all an absolute shambles to be honest. I've said this from day one that whilst SISU are no angels the council unfortunately has an obligation to deal with them in the interests of the City and not their own personal vendettas... and if they are not able to put their feelings to a side they need to step down.

It seems pretty clear to me that the council have not acted appropriately, even if the findings today are whitewashed, it will just go to the next level where a councilor from Coventry wont be ruling if a councilor from Coventry acted inappropriately... you really couldn't make it up!
 
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Specs WT-R75

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #102
Nick said:
..onto 2013 £14.4m taxpayer Ricoh bailout when @covtelegraph editor agreed with @coventrycc chief exec Reeves to sit on story till deal done

They are tweets from Les Reid, not from the meeting.
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Les has tweeted that he has evidence that he will publish. If this is true then the Tel are just as bad as the council in this whole sorry affair..."but the evidence only came to light the day after we went top"... honest guv:jerkit:
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #103
Another Tweet from Les Reid:

@covtelegraph/Trinity Mirror sought to deny my right to reveal this in public interest, but caved in 4weeks before my tribunal
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That explains the silence and gardening leave then.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #104
We’re about to get underway here for the second half of today’s meeting.
Speaking with council officials in the break, it doesn’t sound as if we’re going to be wrapped up quickly.
There’s a possibility this could run into another day - I understand that any second date would not be immediate and would likely take place in weeks/ months, rather than days.
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From http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/live-coventry-council-ethics-committee-10523158
 

Skyblueweeman

Well-Known Member
  • Nov 30, 2015
  • #105
Nick said:
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Point 13...it says that AL was Chair of the ACL Shareholder Panel which she took up before she became Leader of the Council. Is there a conflict of interests here? If she was chair of that panel, is she likely to have been a shareholder in ACL?

After the sale of the Ricoh to Wasps, did the shareholders see any payments from Wasps in relation to the purchase?

For the benefit of legal eagles reading this forum, I'm not suggesting bungs or the sort but....just asking the questions to clarify my understanding.
 
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