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  • Start date Feb 26, 2013
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philmcc

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  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #1
interviewed by keyes/gray and was asked about the ccfc job...sounds like he has applied, said he had unfinished business in terms of management and when asked about ccfc he said "lets see what happens....."
 
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skyblue4ever

New Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #2
Oh yes sounds good!
 

sw88

Chief Commentator!
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #3
Oooh! That would be good! Be nice to see him back! Especially if both he and Carsley have 'unfinished business' to deal with. Surely they can't both fail......
 

CJparker

New Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #4
Yes that would be good news
 
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SkyBlueBlood

Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #5
A bit of good news for once, sick of hearing about the Curles and Browns who would be crap.
 

philmcc

Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #6
he also said that it would be ideal for him due to where he lives, said he was aware of the financial problems and a logical way forward is needed financially... but the team had shown a lot of potential under Robins.
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #7
Great, another non achiever when it mattered.
 
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dadgad

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #8
Him going public is interesting.
Sisu are not interested in making a decision based on footballing sense or what would be perceived as "popular" by fans.
Black is going to ask for assurances. Him going public puts Sisu in a difficult position. Going to be interesting.:guitar2:
 

Joy Division

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #9
fernandopartridge said:
Great, another non achiever when it mattered.
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As opposed to.....?
 

philmcc

Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #10
dadgad said:
Him going public is interesting.
Sisu are not interested in making a decision based on footballing sense or what would be perceived as "popular" by fans.
Black is going to ask for assurances. Him going public puts Sisu in a difficult position. Going to be interesting.:guitar2:
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he didnt openly admit he had applied for the job but didnt rule himself out and went on to say the above, just sounds to me like he is interested and may well have sent his CV in
 

Walking Bird

New Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #11
If he has i hope he's got a better list of players he wants than last time!
 

kg82

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #12
fernandopartridge said:
Great, another non achiever when it mattered.
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Another non-achiever? With us? Wasn't exactly given the time to achieve or not achieve.
 
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dadgad

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  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #13
philmcc said:
he didnt openly admit he had applied for the job but didnt rule himself out and went on to say the above, just sounds to me like he is interested and may well have sent his CV in
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So when Sisu eventually get round to giving it to Carsley we know they could have done better. Check.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #14
Inexperienced in management but better than Brown, Megson, Westley etc.
 

LastGarrison

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  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #15
Have to say he spoke very well but unfortunately Cov fans hold him as some sort of messiah and I think the pressure on him would be enormous.

In two minds whether I would want him back to be honest.
 

Walking Bird

New Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #16
LastGarrison said:
Have to say he spoke very well but unfortunately Cov fans hold him as some sort of messiah and I think the pressure on him would be enormous.

In two minds whether I would want him back to be honest.
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People would gave to realise that he wouldn't have anywhere near the quality of players he had back then. I cant see Bell flying the wings like Richie Partridge did or Jennings pulling the strings in midfield like Craig Hignett !
 
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gspotgaz

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  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #17
Wow, crazy that he managed us 10 years ago. Time does fly!
 
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dongonzalos

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  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #18
Towards the end there was a joke made by Keys and Gray about going into another club with farcical owners and not wishing it on him.

Black didn't take the bait. It was interesting that he passed no opinion or comment on the state of the club.

I think if he had not applied he would have past a comment on how sad it is to see Coventry as it is.
 

Sterling Archer

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  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #19
Unforutnately, I think it says a lot about the bloke that he's never had a full time management gig bar at us.
 

SkyBlue_Bear83

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  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #20
Sterling Archer said:
Unforutnately, I think it says a lot about the bloke that he's never had a full time management gig bar at us.
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Steve Clarke is the same age as Black an only just getting his first crack at management, not everyone goes into management straight away
 

CovLis86

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  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #21
CCFC said:
Steve Clarke is the same age as Black an only just getting his first crack at management, not everyone goes into management straight away
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I was just about to say this. And he's doing a blinding job.

I'd like black above many others that have been suggested. Not perfect, but you'd think within budget, right football and is interested. Don't see what boxes he doesn't tick.
 

Walking Bird

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  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #22
Sterling Archer said:
Unforutnately, I think it says a lot about the bloke that he's never had a full time management gig bar at us.
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Wasn't he a Manager in Scotland before Macca bought him down here?
Also the way he was treated here i'm not surprised he decided to be a #2 to Bruce for years.
 

covcity4life

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #23
we need this guy for closure...before the club closes!

steve clarke shows that good assitant managers can be good managers

i hope he gets it,noone else jumps of the page for me
 
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zuniga

New Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #24
Black would be my choice, based on the other names mentioned. Nigel Pearson is another example of an assistant becoming a manager and being a success (didn't we choose Coleman over him before he joined Southampton?)

He's got 9 years of experience in the Prem/Championship since leaving us, potentially a better manager now than he was with us before.
 

torchomatic

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #25
Is this really good news? He was here a decade ago and hasn't managed on his own properly since. How's he going to be without a manager to hold his hand.

I think we should be looking forward rather than back. Particularly when we need to push on if we want to get into the play-offs.

It's a nostalgia trip, pure and simple.
 
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rupert_bear

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  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #26
The bring back Black everytime we have a vacancy has got on my threepennybits but you know what, this time i could go for it ! His time at Birmingham City and Sunderland has proved he's no mug and like Steve Clarke at West Brom who has been coach or assistant everywhere might just do the job and i could take a Black/Steve Keene partnership too. Both have handled big time players in coaching and managing, we need a manager to stay the course and build a new era, not some fly-by-night who;s head gets turned by the first so called better offer elsewhere.
 
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brinner

Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #27
wudnt really want him back in all fairness, yes we played some good stuff under him when he was manager before but for every 4-0/5-2 win there was always a 1-4 defeat round the corner, his win to games record was good, but his looss to games record almost matched it..............

P W D L was his record at us.
26 12 4 10


P W D L
61 21 11 29 is his managerial record overall including caretaker roles.
 

Colonel Mustard

New Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #28
brinner said:
his win to games record was good, but his looss to games record almost matched it..............

P W D L was his record at us.
26 12 4 10
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A points-per-game record good enough to take the club to the brink of the playoffs over the course of a season - and that was with McAllister's ratty squad and little time for improvement. There was a serious malaise at CCFC when he took the reigns, with most accepting McGinnity's austerity argument and believing the squad was extremely limited in talent. What Black did with what he had was nothing short of remarkable.

I can understand having preferred candidates, but there is no good reason to be opposed to Black.
 
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cyril

New Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #29
Get him in. Completely logical
 

fernandopartridge

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #30
Joy Division said:
As opposed to.....?
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An achiever when it matters, obviously.
 

brinner

Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #31
Colonel Mustard said:
A points-per-game record good enough to take the club to the brink of the playoffs over the course of a season - and that was with McAllister's ratty squad and little time for improvement. There was a serious malaise at CCFC when he took the reigns, with most accepting McGinnity's austerity argument and believing the squad was extremely limited in talent. What Black did with what he had was nothing short of remarkable.

I can understand having preferred candidates, but there is no good reason to be opposed to Black.
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Andy Thorn did the same with Boothroyds leftovers in his first few months in charge and look what happend to us after that!!

My preffered candidate.............Simon Grayson has already been snapped up, id love us to appoint someone who is currently doing a good job with a team but cant sere that happening as will cost a few quid and we all know sisu dont like to do that.

we will prob end up with a manager like curle who has just been sacked by a team in our division!!
 

Colonel Mustard

New Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #32
brinner said:
Andy Thorn did the same with Boothroyds leftovers in his first few months in charge and look what happend to us after that!!
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False equivalency there. Just because Thorn failed it does not mean that Black would have done/would do.

What's more, Black had a half-season of games whereas Thorn had just ten. Nor do I think their results were comparable, with Thorn getting three victories, two of which were against middling teams with nothing to play for, while Black was going away from home and really panning teams. The entire football culture had changed, it wasn't merely a couple of sneaky, lucky-charm caretaker wins.

My preffered candidate.............Simon Grayson has already been snapped up, id love us to appoint someone who is currently doing a good job with a team but cant sere that happening as will cost a few quid and we all know sisu dont like to do that.
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Agreed. It is almost certainly going to be somebody out of work or an internal appointment.

we will prob end up with a manager like curle who has just been sacked by a team in our division!!
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Hope not!
 

RegTheDonk

Well-Known Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #33
Is there a link/time of his talksport interview?
 

wolfie

New Member
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #34
back to black, sounds good to me.
 

Houchens Head

Fairly well known member from Malvern
  • Feb 26, 2013
  • #35
wolfie said:
back to black, sounds good to me.
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..... yeah, and we all know what happened to Amy Winehouse eh?
 
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