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  • Start date Jun 19, 2013
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simple_simon

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  • Jun 19, 2013
  • #71
Just said on another thread. I think we have some new members in the forum?
 
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DaleM

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  • Jun 19, 2013
  • #72
SkyBlueRuffian said:
Totally agree Japandy, there's bugger all we can do about it now and we have to move forward.
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There's a word for that . I think it's Appeasement .

Don't just give in because someone has apparently "Won". Carry on kicking,screaming and fighting until the correct , by majority reckoning , is achieved . Never in a democracy should a majority cave in to a minority.
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jun 19, 2013
  • #73
DaleM said:
There's a word for that . I think it's Appeasement .

Don't just give in because someone has apparently "Won". Carry on kicking,screaming and fighting until the correct , by majority reckoning , is achieved . Never in a democracy should a majority cave in to a minority.
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Not one of Tims theories
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Jun 19, 2013
  • #74
SISU will continue to leech off us, the fans. They need us so therefore a stay away campaign may speed up the demise of SISU. At the moment we don't have a club. We can all think back to our personal glory days. Mine was mid to late 1970's. The club have had fans stick with this 'underperforming' for decades. SISU over stepped the mark. They are the ones to blame for the fans refusing to go while SISU are in charge. Not sure I want to go over old ground but appeasing SISU now would be disastrous in the long term anyway. Their track record proves it.

Didn't read your post Dale M....it seems we share a similar view in terms of appeasement.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jun 19, 2013
  • #75
japandy said:
I hate it when people criticize others just for the sake of criticism. Tim Fisher has had loads of it from everyone including me, but enough is enough.

ACL were the reason for our 10 points deduction but they continue to preach that they are the victim. How is this so?

I believe we as a club have no alternative but to move to another ground. We supporters complain if the tickets are too expensive but then we complain if the owners don't invest. Where in all honesty do they expect t he money to come from?

I was against SISU continual involvement in our club, but they won. Now I am pro-SISU because I think they is no alternative. If the CCC, through ACL, continue to rip the heart out of our club BUT then blame another they, in my eyes, are worse than the initial problem.

I think the best thing for CCFC is to build our own stadium and be shot of CCC. I wil back this 'new' ownership by buying a season ticket, when available.
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Ccfc won't own the ground my friend
 
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simple_simon

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  • Jun 19, 2013
  • #76
Sky Blue Pete said:
Ccfc won't own the ground my friend
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Very good point, SISU will get investors to pay for it, they will want something back on it, so we will end up paying rent to a SISU company.
 

italiahorse

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  • Jun 19, 2013
  • #77
japandy said:
I hate it when people criticize others just for the sake of criticism. Tim Fisher has had loads of it from everyone including me, but enough is enough.

ACL were the reason for our 10 points deduction but they continue to preach that they are the victim. How is this so?

I believe we as a club have no alternative but to move to another ground. We supporters complain if the tickets are too expensive but then we complain if the owners don't invest. Where in all honesty do they expect t he money to come from?

I was against SISU continual involvement in our club, but they won. Now I am pro-SISU because I think they is no alternative. If the CCC, through ACL, continue to rip the heart out of our club BUT then blame another they, in my eyes, are worse than the initial problem.

I think the best thing for CCFC is to build our own stadium and be shot of CCC. I wil back this 'new' ownership by buying a season ticket, when available.
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Have you been away?
 

@richh87

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  • Jun 19, 2013
  • #78
SISU gambled and lost. This is not of our doing or ACL's; and the type of people they employ are not the type that deserve our pity or understanding. They are hard-nosed business people who got this project very very wrong.

Those who built the stadium need paying back, and are therefore entitled to charge rent (albeit at a lower rate). SISU should leave as this is not an ordinary business, this is a football club where (silly as it may sound to some) people's lives are affected.

Many have cocked up football clubs before, but they tend to piss off when it's clear their position is untenable.

We have been extremely unlucky to be owned by such arseholes, and not only that, but to be in such a position of having little income streams when the FFP rules have been brought in.

This can all be resolved by them pissing off for a small sum, which presumably Haskell will pay them.

They need to be reasonable.
 
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jesus-wept

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  • Jun 19, 2013
  • #79
simple_simon said:
Just said on another thread. I think we have some new members in the forum?
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Is it a closed shop then ?
 
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simple_simon

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  • Jun 19, 2013
  • #80
No, I joined
 

ajsccfc

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  • Jun 19, 2013
  • #81
simple_simon said:
Just said on another thread. I think we have some new members in the forum?
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All of them TIM FISHER OR ASSOCIATES LOL
 
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Broken Hearted Sky Blue

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  • Jun 19, 2013
  • #82
simple_simon said:
No, I joined
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Shows how standards have dropped
 

RegTheDonk

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  • Jun 19, 2013
  • #83
Flying Fokker said:
SISU will continue to leech off us, the fans. They need us so therefore a stay away campaign may speed up the demise of SISU. At the moment we don't have a club. We can all think back to our personal glory days. Mine was mid to late 1970's. The club have had fans stick with this 'underperforming' for decades. SISU over stepped the mark. They are the ones to blame for the fans refusing to go while SISU are in charge. Not sure I want to go over old ground but appeasing SISU now would be disastrous in the long term anyway. Their track record proves it.

Didn't read your post Dale M....it seems we share a similar view in terms of appeasement.
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Agreed 100%. And in L1 the club rely on the fans a lot more that in Prem or Champ...where the TV money is so much poorer. SISU have a lot money for sure, and "buying" Ltd means they are going to either hold the CCFC name to ransom for a decent sized buy out, or run up CCFCs "credit" with this stadium idea. But they won't want to indefinitely lose money, I mean, how much blood can you get out of a stone?
 

steveo1987

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  • Jun 19, 2013
  • #84
Nice job japandy,you certainly got a few bites.Come back to the dark side now
 
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quinn1971

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #85
steveo1987 said:
Nice job japandy,you certainly got a few bites.Come back to the dark side now
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Shouldn't that be come back to the village, their missing it's idiot.fans trying to wind each other up...pointless and we wonder why the clubs a mess.
 

ICHAN

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #86
I have read on here if such and such is sold im never going again.
e.g NLHWC has said before if Bigi is sold im never going again, so whats the differance?
People are entitled to an opinion, or is it they are entitled to an opinion if they tow the party line? otherwise were going to call them t**t, numpty sisu lover, joy!! the list is endless just because you dont follow the consesus.
Lucky the witch trials have finished.
 
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Mary_Mungo_Midge

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #87
japandy said:
I hate it when people criticize others just for the sake of criticism. Tim Fisher has had loads of it from everyone including me, but enough is enough.
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We must stop now, eh? No more critisism?

Let me ask you a really simple question. It's what? 5 to 6 weeks from the start of the new season?

'Where will we play'?

There's your context. Where will we play football in a month and a half?
 
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Hugh Jarse

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #88
Here's another thought.

Don't just boycott the Ricoh Stadium, boycott all the shops on the complex too!
 
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japandy

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #89
Firstly, I never wind people up. I love you all too much to do that.

I think the majority on here live in the Coventry area and live within a smallish world. Therefore, lies the problem. You can't forgive. You can't move on. You have to hold grudges.

A few of you are above that and see that criticism is good, if it constructive, but now most threads on here are just plain abusive.

I support Fisher because he is steering the ship. I am an unwilling passenger but I prefer to be on board so I can air my opinion rather than jump over-board without a lifejacket.
 
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ajsccfc

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #90
I don't think it's fair on Tesco to put them out of business.
 
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Hugh Jarse

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #91
ajsccfc said:
I don't think it's fair on Tesco to put them out of business.
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I didn't mean all Tesco's, just the one at the Ricoh complex, same for NEXT, Boots et al.
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #92
japandy said:
I support Fisher because he is steering the ship. I am an unwilling passenger but I prefer to be on board so I can air my opinion rather the jump over-board with a lifejacket.
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If I can pick up your nautical metaphor; which port is the ship headed for? You have fuel for month and a half and you need to decide where you're headed, unless you run out and drift aimlessly.

Under the stewardship of such a crazed Capitan without a safe plan, I'd rather remain on terra firma, than ape Braidley's orchestra on HMS Titanic; assured calm against reality
 
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japandy

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #93
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
If I can pick up your nautical metaphor; which port is the ship headed for? You have fuel for month and a half and you need to decide where you're headed, unless you run out and drift aimlessly.

Under the stewardship of such a crazed Capitan without a safe plan, I'd rather remain on terra firma, than ape Braidley's orchestra on HMS Titanic; assured calm against reality
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You cannot be part of the New World if you are not aboard. But, saying that, if it doesn't turn out right how can you be part of a mutiny if you are ashore?
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #94
japandy said:
You cannot be part of the New World if you are not aboard. But, saying that, if it doesn't turn out right how can you be part of a mutiny if you are ashore?
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The aim of a mutiny was for the hoi polloi of a ships staff to seize control and steer the vessel to a democratically preferable destination. If the vessel has been steered into unchartered waters, without map nor means for return to any land; mutiny is a worthless ambition, dear chap
 

lordsummerisle

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #95
I'm adrift on a sea of metaphors here.
 
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japandy

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #96
Mary_Mungo_Midge said:
The aim of a mutiny was for the hoi polloi of a ships staff to seize control and steer the vessel to a democratically preferable destination. If the vessel has been steered into unchartered waters, without map nor means for return to any land; mutiny is a worthless ambition, dear chap
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You talk in the past tense while I am talking about the future.
 
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Colin1883

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #97
... Leaving a sinking ship,

Those little rodents always sensed the danger first...
 

Mary_Mungo_Midge

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #98
japandy said:
You talk in the past tense while I am talking about the future.
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I can make reference to any tense that suits.

Past: Previous boards and senior management figures placed this club in a terribly precarious position
Past into current: SISU have taken this position; and made it worse; be that measured against debt accrued, footballing standard and level, and disengagment with fans
Current into future: Their current actions are making a bad situation worse; and lead to a future that could cripple the club for a long time to come...

Moving the club is insane. On so many levels, the concept can only be the work of a troubled mind, or someone who doesn't really want to do so, but will threaten it to achieve an output that's beyond me; and who doesn't care for the collateral damage in so doing.

I can't support this. I won't support it. I won't align myself in any way with it's skewed ambition. So, no; I'm not going to join Japandy's conga and pretend it's okay.

See, no ships :wave:
 
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wingy

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #99
Someone bring out the Theodolite ,I've lost my moral compass, even if they have part of the operation up the RICOH.
 

James Smith

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #100
Nonleagueherewecome said:
I've spent plenty of money, thanks-on people who have lied to me constantly and treated me like shit. If people want to carry on being mugged, fine, but I feel I have to draw a line in the sand at some point. It's a financial sacrifice to go every week-one that I won't make any longer for something that is a) no longer bringing me pleasure, b) giving backing to a crooked regime that don't deserve loyal customers.
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+1 to all of that, I used to give my younger relatives replica kit, and the older ones mugs, hats, picture frames, beach towels etc. as presents but that has all stopped because a) the shop isn't online anymore, b) I don't trust SISU, c) I'm sick of them.
 

ajsccfc

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #101
Hugh Jarse said:
I didn't mean all Tesco's, just the one at the Ricoh complex, same for NEXT, Boots et al.
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These mom 'n' pop stores need all the business they get. Think of the poor Tesco CEO before encouraging this MADNESS.
 

SkyBlueUkeman

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #102
I usually fly, so I have nothing to say.
 
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Cov City Daytrader 87

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #103
lordsummerisle said:
[video=youtube;4By5LOrRI9M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4By5LOrRI9M[/video]
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I can top that!

Guys try this one!

[video=youtube;ggWyUEuGcWY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggWyUEuGcWY[/video]
 
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poda

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  • Jun 20, 2013
  • #104
For me sisu ACl and the council are all in it for their own gain as a club we are now a barely living carcass
These lot are still sqabbling over the last few crumbs

Us as supporter are no significance to any off them otherwise they would not be trying to take the team from the city

If we end up at WAlsall and i dont think we would get more thst 2 thou travel how would we pay wages with finsncial fair play this is one step to oblivion
 
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