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  • Start date Oct 14, 2020
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ccfc92

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #36
Similar event as their penalty... ref waves away.... shocker.
 

cc84cov

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #37
I’ve never seen so many side ways and back wards passes in my life a international level
 

ccfc92

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #38
Actually give up. How is that a foul vs Kane?
 
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Macca

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #39
Ccfcisparks said:
I was never old enough to watch Linekar or Shearer but can anyone tell me if they played similar to Kane? I struggle to "get" him to be honest. Good goalscorer but not particularly quick, strong, good at dribbling...
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I am unfortunately. Lineker for me was a real poacher, can’t fault his record but he never stands out in my memory. I thought Shearer was awesome, no great skill but strong and lethal and boy could he strike the ball
 
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ccfc92

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #40
cc84cov said:
I’ve never seen so many side ways and back wards passes in my life a international level
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Excluding the odd decisions, England have been shit.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #41
Ref is shite, glad Henderson has said something to him
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #42
82nd minute and we start to push up on their defence (a bit late) Ref giving some free kicks for nowt (Kane's challenge for example)
 

jordan210

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #43
I know we moan about refs. But this guy truly has lost the plot
 
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covmark

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #44
The ref has been worse than England.

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ccfc92

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #45
jordan210 said:
I know we moan about refs. But this guy truly has lost the plot
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Absolute clown.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #46
jordan210 said:
I know we moan about refs. But this guy truly has lost the plot
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He's got half an hour to get to Liverpool for a pint
 
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cc84cov

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #47
ccfc92 said:
Excluding the odd decisions, England have been shit.
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Their a poor side I looked at the last side to beat Belgium compared to this current crop there isn’t one player who would get close to that squad
 

jordan210

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #48
ccfc92 said:
Absolute clown.
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Bit harsh.... All I said was the ref has lost the plot.
 
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ccfc92

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #49
jordan210 said:
Bit harsh.... All I said was the ref has lost the plot.
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I hope James called that c**t, a fucking c**t.

Weird decisions. Not excusing England, but very odd performance from the ref.
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #50
He gone yet? 1 goal in 3 games v denmark twice and Iceland... A flukey win v Belgium after getting a whopping deflection and a fortunate penalty.... Once again get the twat out
He is up there with the worst England managers of the last 30 years...don't let a piss easy WC route cloud that
 

Evo1883

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #51
Ccfcisparks said:
I was never old enough to watch Linekar or Shearer but can anyone tell me if they played similar to Kane? I struggle to "get" him to be honest. Good goalscorer but not particularly quick, strong, good at dribbling...
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Very strong, very good at holding the ball, excellent passing range and a great goalscorer... One of the best and most complete strikers in world football tbh, also an excellent captain ... What's not to get
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #52
Not even bothered to watch it tonight.

Decided to dust off GTA San Andreas and kill some hookers instead.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #53
Evo1883 said:
He gone yet? 1 goal in 3 games v denmark twice and Iceland... A flukey win v Belgium after getting a whopping deflection and a fortunate penalty.... Once again get the twat out
He is up there with the worst England managers of the last 30 years...don't let a piss easy WC route cloud that
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Aidy Boothroyd running the U21s and this joker running the senior side, another wasted generation on the cards. Give it to someone with some ambition
 
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Evo1883

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #54
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Aidy Boothroyd running the U21s and this joker running the senior side, another wasted generation on the cards. Give it to someone with some ambition
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The 21s managed to churn out a 3 all draw with footballing giants Andorra the other day... Absolute shambles
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #55
Evo1883 said:
The 21s managed to churn out a 3 all draw with footballing giants Andorra the other day... Absolute shambles
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I refuse to believe that Boothroyd and Southgate are the best coaches we can muster or even come close to it
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #56
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I refuse to believe that Boothroyd and Southgate are the best coaches we can muster or even come close to it
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Put whoever you want in charge, the players are not good enough to compete at the very top level, we’re a safe enough bet for the quarters most times long as the draw is decent, but no more. The only thing our players are world class at is choking. And with the structure of the game as it is in England that can never change unfortunately.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #57
David O'Day said:
Because as per the rules of the game how you make the tackle is also taken into account.

I do agree that you should not be sent off if you win the ball first though.
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Laws david not rules
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #58
Ring Of Steel said:
Put whoever you want in charge, the players are not good enough to compete at the very top level, we’re a safe enough bet for the quarters most times long as the draw is decent, but no more. The only thing our players are world class at is choking. And with the structure of the game as it is in England that can never change unfortunately.
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I agree, they aren’t world class in but a couple of positions, but the performances have been so negative. For the first time in a long time we have English players being sought after by foreign sides and the quality available is definitely higher than what Southgate’s getting out of them.

Can start by binning off Maguire
 
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Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #59
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I agree, they aren’t world class in but a couple of positions, but the performances have been so negative. For the first time in a long time we have English players being sought after by foreign sides and the quality available is definitely higher than what Southgate’s getting out of them.

Can start by binning off Maguire
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The whole setup is wrong, we are the only ‘major’ nation that doesn’t seem able to have a system that produces the types of players needed- and even if we did we have no continuity of leadership or management, if you look at, say, France, Holland & Germany they have the same people and the same philosophy running through player development. We just swap managers every now and then hoping for “instant success”, and any nation that has a track record of entrusting the future of the national side to people like Stuart Pearce & Aidy Boothroyd- well it’s no surprise we always fall well short. I’d honestly say our mentality towards developing a squad at Cov is better than the national side. But like I say- the Premier League is king here and that’ll never change.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #60
Ring Of Steel said:
The whole setup is wrong, we are the only ‘major’ nation that doesn’t seem able to have a system that produces the types of players needed- and even if we did we have no continuity of leadership or management, if you look at, say, France, Holland & Germany they have the same people and the same philosophy running through player development. We just swap managers every now and then hoping for “instant success”, and any nation that has a track record of entrusting the future of the national side to people like Stuart Pearce & Aidy Boothroyd- well it’s no surprise we always fall well short. I’d honestly say our mentality towards developing a squad at Cov is better than the national side. But like I say- the Premier League is king here and that’ll never change.
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Not sure why there’s the obsession with the manager being English either...
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #61
Southgate is the 'safe' bet. Can you imagine England appointing a Bielsa, or a Klopp, even a Pep who actually instigates an energy or style? It's more like they try to appoint a person who'd run a bank or business.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #62
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Southgate is the 'safe' bet. Can you imagine England appointing a Bielsa, or a Klopp, even a Pep who actually instigates an energy or style? It's more like they try to appoint a person who'd run a bank or business.
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The most frustrating was Capello who walked qualification then totally shat the bed at a World Cup where we should have made the semis at least.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Oct 14, 2020
  • #63
Sky Blue Pete said:
Laws david not rules
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fuck that blazer boy bollocks
 
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CJ_covblaze

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  • Oct 15, 2020
  • #64
Maguire was dreadful. Deserved the sending off. He got the ball but had no control. It was a dangerous challenge. He needs taking out of the firing line for a bit both for club and country. No idea what Pickford was doing in the run up to the penalty. I’m also still trying to work out why it was a pen. The ref was making questionable decisions throughout for both sides.

Regardless of the ref’s performance our discipline clearly needs work and is a concern at present. Southgate has to get that sorted fast.
 
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CJ_covblaze

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  • Oct 15, 2020
  • #65
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Southgate is the 'safe' bet. Can you imagine England appointing a Bielsa, or a Klopp, even a Pep who actually instigates an energy or style? It's more like they try to appoint a person who'd run a bank or business.
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They’re not English. Personally it wouldn’t sit right with me. The manager is no different to the players. Either way The FA can’t ever go down that route again after everything they’ve said about the problems in the men’s game. I would guess the next in line will be Gerrard, Lampard or Powell. I wouldn’t object to any of those for what it’s worth.
 
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Macca

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  • Oct 15, 2020
  • #66
Ring Of Steel said:
Put whoever you want in charge, the players are not good enough to compete at the very top level, we’re a safe enough bet for the quarters most times long as the draw is decent, but no more. The only thing our players are world class at is choking. And with the structure of the game as it is in England that can never change unfortunately.
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Couldn’t agree more it’s been the same for as long as I have followed football. No other footballing nation would still be banging on about Gazza’s short lived cameo 30 years ago. They’d have had dozens like him since
 

David O'Day

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  • Oct 15, 2020
  • #67
CJ_covblaze said:
They’re not English. Personally it wouldn’t sit right with me. The manager is no different to the players. Either way The FA can’t ever go down that route again after everything they’ve said about the problems in the men’s game. I would guess the next in line will be Gerrard, Lampard or Powell. I wouldn’t object to any of those for what it’s worth.
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I would as they are all pretty shit as managers
 

Mr Panda

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  • Oct 15, 2020
  • #68
Southgate needs to get MR in on a consultancy basis so that he can teach him how to do a proper 3-4-3 or whatever you want to call it.

As good as Reece James was last night it's absolutely criminal that he didn't pick TAA. System is alright but the player choices not
 

Ring Of Steel

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  • Oct 15, 2020
  • #69
CJ_covblaze said:
They’re not English. Personally it wouldn’t sit right with me. The manager is no different to the players. Either way The FA can’t ever go down that route again after everything they’ve said about the problems in the men’s game. I would guess the next in line will be Gerrard, Lampard or Powell. I wouldn’t object to any of those for what it’s worth.
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And right there you have the reason why England will continue failing for many, many years to come.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Oct 15, 2020
  • #70
CJ_covblaze said:
I would guess the next in line will be Gerrard, Lampard or Powell.
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What a depressing prospect.
 
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