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  • Start date Mar 26, 2024
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TomRad85

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #141
Evo1883 said:
Let's be honest Southgate has struggled to push a supposed great England side onto trophies in what is probably the weakest international era of the the last 50 years but sure , he's amazing
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I hate the excuse of "who would replace him?" as a get out. There's 24 managers in League 2 for starters, then work your way up.

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mark82

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #142
Was a brilliant pass then by Mainoo.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #143
TomRad85 said:
I hate the excuse of "who would replace him?" as a get out. There's 24 managers in League 2 for starters, then work your way up.

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Maybe skip Steve Evans.
 
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hamertime

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #144
Otis said:
Saka is class in my opinion.
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Bowen 41 premier league goals saka 44. I would say Bowen has done better as he’s had to play with less talented team mates. Also dragged West Ham to a trophy last year.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #145
mark82 said:
Was a brilliant pass then by Mainoo.
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Mainoo is surely the partner for rice in the summer

For the record we will start rice and Henderson
 
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stupot07

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #146
Tommo1993 said:
Toney more dangerous than Kane as well. Brilliant. Maybe at this very moment, but otherwise, no he really really isn’t.
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Yeah I agree. kane is world class but it's nice just to have a striker playing as a striker.

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mark82

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #147
Evo1883 said:
Mainoo is surely the partner for rice in the summer

For the record we will start rice and Henderson
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I could almost guarantee he won't start the first game.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #148
Belgium pressing higher ?
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #149
David O'Day said:
You do only pipe up when people question Southgate

In answer to your question, have you taken into account that Southgate has a far better tea even with the ropey defence than most of the of the recent managers.
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It was my first post about Southgate in this thread out of several?

Seems slightly unfair to crucify Southgate with stats but then start wheeling out the caveats when someone asks how the same stats apply to literally all other managers!
 

stupot07

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #150
The Belgium manager looks like a bond villain.

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Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #151
The defence of Southgate is a final in the euros, forgetting that he lost us the game by bottling it to go defensive and weird subs to take pens.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #152
SBT said:
It was my first post about Southgate in this thread out of several?

Seems slightly unfair to crucify Southgate with stats but then start wheeling out the caveats when someone asks how the same stats apply to literally all other managers!
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I guess the answer is , different eras, with different quality of opposition
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #153
Unlucky then England
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #154
Bellingham should score.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #155
Bellingham playing like his younger brother today
 

mark82

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #156
Toney has to go to the World Cup too.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #157
Evo1883 said:
I guess the answer is , different eras, with different quality of opposition
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Well that’s why I asked about contemporaries as well as predecessors, but if no-one can answer the question then I suppose we just let the stat hang there and slag the manager off some more
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #158
SBT said:
Well that’s why I asked about contemporaries as well as predecessors, but if no-one can answer the question then I suppose we just let the stat hang there and slag the manager off some more
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Cry more
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #159
SBT said:
Well that’s why I asked about contemporaries as well as predecessors, but if no-one can answer the question then I suppose we just let the stat hang there and slag the manager off some more
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It's a poor stat when you consider the drop off in recent years of many of the world's top nations .. but whatever we move
 

Tommo1993

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #160
Evo1883 said:
Bellingham playing like his younger brother today
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You’ll get shot for that as well on here by someone.
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #161
SBT said:
It was my first post about Southgate in this thread out of several?

Seems slightly unfair to crucify Southgate with stats but then start wheeling out the caveats when someone asks how the same stats apply to literally all other managers!
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What are you on about? Southgate has a better team and is managing in a period where the big teams are worse than they have been in the past.

It's the very opposite of unfair.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #162
mark82 said:
Toney has to go to the World Cup too.
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Surely him, Kane and Watkins.
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #163
Belgium with a great counter
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #164
Nick said:
Surely him, Kane and Watkins.
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Or simms , still time
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #165
SBT said:
Well that’s why I asked about contemporaries as well as predecessors, but if no-one can answer the question then I suppose we just let the stat hang there and slag the manager off some more
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Found this:

 
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Evo1883

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #166
mark82 said:
Found this:

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Sven managed England in a period when I'd say the world's top 10 were simply outrageously competitive
 

Otis

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #167
If Bellingham was.on form today, I think we would win this easily.
 
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SBT

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #168
Evo1883 said:
It's a poor stat when you consider the drop off in recent years of many of the world's top nations .. but whatever we move
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Well yes, if for context’s sake you had the stats for how other managers were faring against this supposedly dire field of international teams then that would make it very difficult to defend Southgate. That’s why I’m asking!
 

David O'Day

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #169
mark82 said:
Found this:

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So it's worse than the 2 full time managers before him even though he has a better team and the top teams aren't as good
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #170
Mainoo is playing so well.

Hopefully he will get injured for late April.
 
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Otis

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #171
Still looking very good going forwards
 

Evo1883

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  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #172
Nick said:
Mainoo is playing so well.

Hopefully he will get injured for late April.
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Back for the euros though
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #173
mark82 said:
Found this:

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Lol
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #174
Nearly another goal coming from mainoo being direct.

Henderson would have gone back to the defenders.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2024
  • #175
Mainoo, stop that now
 
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