England v Belgium (4 Viewers)

[TomRad85]

Let's be honest Southgate has struggled to push a supposed great England side onto trophies in what is probably the weakest international era of the the last 50 years but sure , he's amazing

I hate the excuse of "who would replace him?" as a get out. There's 24 managers in League 2 for starters, then work your way up.

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[mark82]

Was a brilliant pass then by Mainoo.

 

[mark82]

I hate the excuse of "who would replace him?" as a get out. There's 24 managers in League 2 for starters, then work your way up.

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Maybe skip Steve Evans.

 

[hamertime]

Saka is class in my opinion.

Bowen 41 premier league goals saka 44. I would say Bowen has done better as he’s had to play with less talented team mates. Also dragged West Ham to a trophy last year.

 

[Evo1883]

Was a brilliant pass then by Mainoo.

Mainoo is surely the partner for rice in the summer

For the record we will start rice and Henderson

 

[stupot07]

Toney more dangerous than Kane as well. Brilliant. Maybe at this very moment, but otherwise, no he really really isn’t.

Yeah I agree. kane is world class but it's nice just to have a striker playing as a striker.

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[mark82]

Mainoo is surely the partner for rice in the summer

For the record we will start rice and Henderson

I could almost guarantee he won't start the first game.

 

[Evo1883]

Belgium pressing higher ?

 

[SBT]

You do only pipe up when people question Southgate

In answer to your question, have you taken into account that Southgate has a far better tea even with the ropey defence than most of the of the recent managers.

It was my first post about Southgate in this thread out of several?

Seems slightly unfair to crucify Southgate with stats but then start wheeling out the caveats when someone asks how the same stats apply to literally all other managers!

 

[stupot07]

The Belgium manager looks like a bond villain.

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[Nick]

The defence of Southgate is a final in the euros, forgetting that he lost us the game by bottling it to go defensive and weird subs to take pens.

 

[Evo1883]

It was my first post about Southgate in this thread out of several?

Seems slightly unfair to crucify Southgate with stats but then start wheeling out the caveats when someone asks how the same stats apply to literally all other managers!

I guess the answer is , different eras, with different quality of opposition

 

[Evo1883]

Unlucky then England

 

[mark82]

Bellingham should score.

 

[Evo1883]

Bellingham playing like his younger brother today

 

[mark82]

Toney has to go to the World Cup too.

 

[SBT]

I guess the answer is , different eras, with different quality of opposition

Well that’s why I asked about contemporaries as well as predecessors, but if no-one can answer the question then I suppose we just let the stat hang there and slag the manager off some more

 

[Nick]

Well that’s why I asked about contemporaries as well as predecessors, but if no-one can answer the question then I suppose we just let the stat hang there and slag the manager off some more

Cry more

 

[Evo1883]

Well that’s why I asked about contemporaries as well as predecessors, but if no-one can answer the question then I suppose we just let the stat hang there and slag the manager off some more

It's a poor stat when you consider the drop off in recent years of many of the world's top nations .. but whatever we move

 

[Tommo1993]

Bellingham playing like his younger brother today

You’ll get shot for that as well on here by someone.

 

[David O'Day]

It was my first post about Southgate in this thread out of several?

Seems slightly unfair to crucify Southgate with stats but then start wheeling out the caveats when someone asks how the same stats apply to literally all other managers!

What are you on about? Southgate has a better team and is managing in a period where the big teams are worse than they have been in the past.

It's the very opposite of unfair.

 

[Nick]

Toney has to go to the World Cup too.

Surely him, Kane and Watkins.

 

[Evo1883]

Belgium with a great counter

 

[Evo1883]

Surely him, Kane and Watkins.

Or simms , still time

 

[mark82]

Well that’s why I asked about contemporaries as well as predecessors, but if no-one can answer the question then I suppose we just let the stat hang there and slag the manager off some more

Found this:

 

[Evo1883]

Found this:

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Sven managed England in a period when I'd say the world's top 10 were simply outrageously competitive

 

[Otis]

If Bellingham was.on form today, I think we would win this easily.

 

[SBT]

It's a poor stat when you consider the drop off in recent years of many of the world's top nations .. but whatever we move

Well yes, if for context’s sake you had the stats for how other managers were faring against this supposedly dire field of international teams then that would make it very difficult to defend Southgate. That’s why I’m asking!

 

[David O'Day]

Found this:

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So it's worse than the 2 full time managers before him even though he has a better team and the top teams aren't as good

 

[Nick]

Mainoo is playing so well.

Hopefully he will get injured for late April.

 

[Otis]

Still looking very good going forwards

 

[Evo1883]

Mainoo is playing so well.

Hopefully he will get injured for late April.

Back for the euros though

 

[SBT]

Found this:

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Lol

 

[Nick]

Nearly another goal coming from mainoo being direct.

Henderson would have gone back to the defenders.

 

[David O'Day]

Mainoo, stop that now