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  • Start date Yesterday at 2:19 PM
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jim20

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  • Yesterday at 2:19 PM
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I’ve just seen Emmanuel Ahaneku, one of our youth players has signed for Arsenal. I’m assuming we don’t make any money out of the deal because he is so young, if this is the case, is there anything we can do to stop these young talents moving on? Essentially it must be a loss making venture for the club when these talents do leave like this!
 
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Alex1987

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  • Yesterday at 2:22 PM
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We need to become a Cat 1 Academy for starters.

As a parent if your child is flourishing in Cat 2, and Cat 1 come calling, it's likely you'll move them.


Note I think we get nominal amounts if over a certain age, but think it's like £25k at most
 
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Viktor17

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  • Yesterday at 2:23 PM
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Yep exactly why academy development becoming pointless to degree for anything outside PL.

little can do, we may get nominal fee depending how many years we’ve put into him, but nominal. Sad as player more likely to get lost in system now.
 
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jim20

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  • Yesterday at 2:24 PM
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Alex1987 said:
We need to become a Cat 1 Academy for starters.

As a parent if your child is flourishing in Cat 2, and Cat 1 come calling, it's likely you'll move them.


Note I think we get nominal amounts if over a certain age, but think it's like £25k at most
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I completely get that, and would do the same if it was my child. I’ve just found over the years that lower league clubs take a lot of risk on the youth, a lot don’t make it, and some of them that do are poached by prem clubs with as you put it nominal fees. I think there needs to be a rebalancing of this
 
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Alex1987

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  • Yesterday at 2:30 PM
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jim20 said:
I completely get that, and would do the same if it was my child. I’ve just found over the years that lower league clubs take a lot of risk on the youth, a lot don’t make it, and some of them that do are poached by prem clubs with as you put it nominal fees. I think there needs to be a rebalancing of this
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I 100% agree.

It makes it pointless below Cat 1.

I'm surprised looking back we managed to get Wilson and Maddison playing in League 1
 

jim20

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  • Yesterday at 2:32 PM
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Alex1987 said:
I 100% agree.

It makes it pointless below Cat 1.

I'm surprised looking back we managed to get Wilson and Maddison playing in League 1
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We were very lucky with them.
And the money probably helped us survive at the time
 

Marty

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  • Yesterday at 2:35 PM
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I don't think we can compete, the package the whole family receives sets them up for life.
 

chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 2:41 PM
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Alex1987 said:
We need to become a Cat 1 Academy for starters.
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I understand King is very much of the same opinion
 
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TomRad85

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  • Yesterday at 2:46 PM
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I see only 2 Prem clubs have Cat 2 academies, Brentford and Bournemouth. Plenty of Championship clubs have got Cat 1 though so we've fallen behind our direct opposition there, in fact struggling League One Reading also have a Cat 1.
 
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Alex1987

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  • Yesterday at 2:54 PM
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TomRad85 said:
I see only 2 Prem clubs have Cat 2 academies, Brentford and Bournemouth. Plenty of Championship clubs have got Cat 1 though so we've fallen behind our direct opposition there, in fact struggling League One Reading also have a Cat 1.
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Blues just gone Cat 1 and obviously Villa, Leicester, Wolves are. So we have little chance in the West Midlands as it stands
 

Noble

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  • Yesterday at 2:58 PM
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Didn’t Brentford get rid of their academy entirely before making it to the PL? Makes a lot of sense until you can sustain one properly
 
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TomRad85

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  • Yesterday at 3:05 PM
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Alex1987 said:
Blues just gone Cat 1 and obviously Villa, Leicester, Wolves are. So we have little chance in the West Midlands as it stands
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Yeh that's a problem if all the other clubs in the area have Cat 1. West Brom too.
 
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Sky Blue Goblin

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  • Yesterday at 3:09 PM
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Noble said:
Didn’t Brentford get rid of their academy entirely before making it to the PL? Makes a lot of sense until you can sustain one properly
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I thought they had a U23 squad instead where they take players from other clubs in London?
 

Gibbo

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  • Yesterday at 4:31 PM
  • #14
Crewe - previously a centre for youth development even allowing for the sex scandal are looking at going from cat 2 to cat 3
 
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wingy

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  • Yesterday at 4:47 PM
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Alex1987 said:
We need to become a Cat 1 Academy for starters.

As a parent if your child is flourishing in Cat 2, and Cat 1 come calling, it's likely you'll move them.


Note I think we get nominal amounts if over a certain age, but think it's like £25k at most
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I think but don't know because of the age involved but if the lad makes it I think we get something like that fee you mentioned or a lower amount for each game he plays?
 
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nicksar

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  • Yesterday at 5:51 PM
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Sky Blue Goblin said:
I thought they had a U23 squad instead where they take players from other clubs in London?
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Brentford just have a "B" team... reserve's basically.
 
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Potbellypig

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  • Yesterday at 7:04 PM
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Marty said:
I don't think we can compete, the package the whole family receives sets them up for life.
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What does the family get in these situations?
 

Major Tom

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  • Yesterday at 7:06 PM
  • #18
Will be interesting to see how the lad who went to Man City gets on
 

Marty

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  • Yesterday at 8:46 PM
  • #19
Potbellypig said:
What does the family get in these situations?
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My boss is an academy coach in the evenings for one of the big clubs in the Midlands, they lost a young girl (around 11-12 years old) to Man United, I'm not sure if it's a standard deal or an enhanced one as she's so highly rated but the deal the parents got was something like.

All 3 of their children would be placed in private school,

Up to something like 30k a year in housing costs.

Salary top ups if they were unable to find jobs paying the same money.
 

chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 9:20 PM
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Marty said:
My boss is an academy coach in the evenings for one of the big clubs in the Midlands, they lost a young girl (around 11-12 years old) to Man United, I'm not sure if it's a standard deal or an enhanced one as she's so highly rated but the deal the parents got was something like.

All 3 of their children would be placed in private school,

Up to something like 30k a year in housing costs.

Salary top ups if they were unable to find jobs paying the same money.
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That just shouldn't be allowed for kids
 
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Marty

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  • Yesterday at 9:53 PM
  • #21
chiefdave said:
That just shouldn't be allowed for kids
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No, it shouldn't, it's absolutely ludicrous the money they're willing to throw around but for those teams at the top, it's absolutely pennies.
 
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wingy

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  • Yesterday at 10:00 PM
  • #22
You just have to be honest about anything to do with capitalism kid's are fair game sorry and all that but ain't it the truth?
 

Mcbean

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  • Yesterday at 10:06 PM
  • #23
I am guessing that why the young lad got on the bench Saturday - but more protection against getting poached
 

Winny the Bish

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  • Yesterday at 10:56 PM
  • #24
Marty said:
My boss is an academy coach in the evenings for one of the big clubs in the Midlands, they lost a young girl (around 11-12 years old) to Man United, I'm not sure if it's a standard deal or an enhanced one as she's so highly rated but the deal the parents got was something like.

All 3 of their children would be placed in private school,

Up to something like 30k a year in housing costs.

Salary top ups if they were unable to find jobs paying the same money.
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I've not heard of salary top ups before but moving costs, "helping" find a house and private school for every child in the family are very common when moving to one of the big teams.
 
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Potbellypig

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  • Today at 7:54 AM
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Marty said:
My boss is an academy coach in the evenings for one of the big clubs in the Midlands, they lost a young girl (around 11-12 years old) to Man United, I'm not sure if it's a standard deal or an enhanced one as she's so highly rated but the deal the parents got was something like.

All 3 of their children would be placed in private school,

Up to something like 30k a year in housing costs.

Salary top ups if they were unable to find jobs paying the same money.
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Interesting, thanks.
 
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SkyBlueSteve81

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  • 59 minutes ago
  • #26
Does anyone know what we need to do to move up from a Cat2 to a Cat1?
 
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