Because we live in England you thick twatWhy are they going up?
The few melts on here who are trying to find things wrong with it, you included been crying all afternoonWho on here hates the country?
Haha, trying to find any little fault with itIt isn’t that, but it looks like a simple gotcha to make people take down the national flag and thereby look anti English when it’s for a different reason.
I believe this is the first time I’ve commented on these flags going up.The few melts on here who are trying to find things wrong with it, you included been crying all afternoon
So stop trying to find fault with having the flag of our own country flying, it’s something you should be proud ofI believe this is the first time I’ve commented on these flags going up.
Also to be clear, I voted to keep the Union going back in 2014. I’m patriotic, but not nationalistic. There is a difference
Stick to Italy Mr super moderatorIt’s good to see that people are focusing on what really matters.
lol get fucked.Stick to Italy Mr super moderator
What are they going up for then?Obviously far right racism which is what you are trying to get at.
They’re putting it up in places where it will need to be taken down because nothing’s supposed to be hanging off them. It then lets people like Farage claim that it’s because others ‘hate Britain’. But he rightly has gambled that his supporters will on balance believe it’s true.So stop trying to find fault with having the flag of our own country flying, it’s something you should be proud of
Symbolising what?
What are they going up for then?
Well they’re clearly meant as provocations to some extent aren’t they? I don’t know why Nick is so shy to admit that.Why don’t you say why you think they are rather play this boring game?
Why are they going up?
Well they’re clearly meant as provocations to some extent aren’t they? I don’t know why Nick is so shy to admit that.
People who don’t want asylum seekers to be targeted because of crimes committed by individual immigrants. Immigrant communities themselves even.Who is it provoking? We can all play this game.
The social contract is gone, I think social media has killed that dead in the water.I think in and around Birmingham they first started going up as a protest as well as a symbol of patriotism. I’m guessing some of it to do with annoyance surrounding the lack of control over migration, cost of migrant hotels etc but maybe also the Palestine flags being up (and not seeing any England flags)
When the council took the St George’s down so quickly it really riled people. For those that aren’t aware, Birmingham council has been run like a shitshow in recent years, which has culminated in x2 10% pa council tax increase in the past couple of years. For that residents are still receiving worse services including the totally unnecessary bin strike. So rubbish builds up, streets aren’t maintained (so people stop giving a shit), recycling and garden waste not collected all year, potholes not mended etc and yet the council is rushing around to remove St George flags as soon as they go up
I’ve said before the social contract between the public and the state is fracturing.
There's definitely a few on hereWho on here hates the country?
Name names!There's definitely a few on here
People who don’t want asylum seekers to be targeted because of crimes committed by individual immigrants. Immigrant communities themselves even.
So can I ask what you do think then?I’m not sure I agree.
People who don’t want asylum seekers to be targeted because of crimes committed by individual immigrants. Immigrant communities themselves even.
I play cricket with him by the way
So can I ask what you do think then?
I’m saying it could be considered as a provocation towards them, or as an act of intimidation.It's targetting asylum seekers by putting up an England flag?
Nothing, in other words. I suppose they all went up by coincidence.I’ve already said what I think
Nothing, in other words. I suppose they all went up by coincidence.
It’s ironic because freedom of movement was a topic that united Michael Foot, Tony Benn and Enoch Powell iirc.It does irritate me to be caricatured as wanting open door immigration, let everyone in etc. I too don’t want our country reliant on cheap foreign labour.
Isn’t there a minimum wage limit for people to enter the country since Brexit?It’s ironic because freedom of movement was a topic that united Michael Foot, Tony Benn and Enoch Powell iirc.
Yet, concerns over immigration aren’t caricatured as being fascist or right wing. It’s not and it’s only the internationalist liberals who believe in open borders and frankly, it’s been damaging the ‘social contract’ between government and people. Every PM since Cameron has unequivocally been elected with manifesto pledges to reduce migration and the exact opposite has been delivered.
Low income migration not only harms workers, the mounting costs of allowing unproductive people come to the UK and stay risks undermining our welfare state. Particularly in relation to social housing, the NHS and of course in-work and out-of-work benefits.
When the Labour grandees of the last Labour government (Blunkett & Straw) are arguing of the suspension of the ECHR, it is totemic that the people responsible for enshrining the ECHR and HRA in UK law understand that this has had unintended consequences
That is a) below median salary and b) many exemptions that are c) exploited.Isn’t there a minimum wage limit for people to enter the country since Brexit?
Aren’t Germany negotiating with the Taliban for a returns agreement?
I’m saying it could be considered as a provocation towards them, or as an act of intimidation.
I get your point, but I don't like all these flags whapped up with cable ties, it's tacky...Nonsense. If the flag of your residence is a source of fear probably time to leave.
Would you apply that logic to people hoisting the Palestinian flag being intimidating towards Jewish people?
If your answer is no, you should probably explore that double standard.
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