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Transfer Rumour Ellis Simms (1 Viewer)

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AOM

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  • Mar 7, 2024
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Sky Blue Pete said:
The last 4 pages on here are some of the worst takes in the history of sbt
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We're one loss away from people wanting to purge half the squad again
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,207
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
He can't trap a bag of cement, a bag of sharp sand nor a bag of building sand.
Cracking hat trick though. Credit where it's due .
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He’s done a load of really deft lay offs though so it’s not ‘touch’. It’s strange. I was saying to some lads around me, you don’t make it as a pro if you can’t control the ball. Having said that I don’t know what’s causing it. Maybe not shielding the ball well enough/positioning his body correctly so defenders are getting a foot in or kicking his foot. Needs to use his backside more (so to speak) to keep a great distance between defender and his legs/feet. This stuff can be coached
 
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Boicey

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  • Mar 7, 2024
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djr8369 said:
The fans have treated him pretty shit just because he didn’t set the league alight. If I was him I’d have one eye on an exit looking for somewhere I was wanted.
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Ridiculous.
Don’t play football. Go and play badminton down the leisure centre.
 
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djr8369

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,209
Boicey said:
Ridiculous.
Don’t play football. Go and play badminton down the leisure centre.
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No need, he will get a contract at another professional football team.
 

Boicey

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,210
djr8369 said:
No need, he will get a contract at another professional football team.
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One where’s he’s ‘wanted’??
Hey Mr agent can you check how much they may love me and if there’s any nasty people who might come to watch me.
FFS.
 
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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Mar 7, 2024
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CCFCSteve said:
He’s done a load of really deft lay offs though so it’s not ‘touch’. It’s strange. I was saying to some lads around me, you don’t make it as a pro if you can’t control the ball. Having said that I don’t know what’s causing it. Maybe not shielding the ball well enough/positioning his body correctly so defenders are getting a foot in or kicking his foot. Needs to use his backside more (so to speak) to keep a great distance between defender and his legs/feet. This stuff can be coached
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Agreed. His work rate was good against Rotherham. Laid the ball off well.
 

Alan Dugdales Moustache

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  • Mar 7, 2024
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djr8369 said:
The fans have treated him pretty shit just because he didn’t set the league alight. If I was him I’d have one eye on an exit looking for somewhere I was wanted.
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How will he know if the fans want him ?
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Mar 7, 2024
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djr8369 said:
The fans have treated him pretty shit just because he didn’t set the league alight. If I was him I’d have one eye on an exit looking for somewhere I was wanted.
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I can't for one minute believe he is looking to move, certainly not for such reasons. I wouldn't want any player with such a temperament near the team anyway.

I have never seen fans turn on him at matches, unlike some other players. I am not on twitter so have no idea what has been said but my impression is anyone gets abuse on there. I can't believe a player would leave somewhere due to what a few idiots put in twitter.
 
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Bad Boy

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,214
I think it's fair to say that there are a number of this seasons new recruits that need some work doing on them.

I want to see Simms succeed and become a better player (as with all our signings) but there's just something that makes me think that he isn't going to be able to make that next step up and be a top striker.

Same goes for Wright.
 
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hamertime

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,215
StrettoBoy said:
My point is simply that if he was lacking confidence - an important commodity for strikers in particular - giving him abuse is likely to make things worse.

We need to get behind our players and support them if we are going to get the best out of them.
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I will get behind them even if they are missing sitters, i wont get behind them if they are strolling around half arsed.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,216
hamertime said:
I will get behind them even if they are missing sitters, i wont get behind them if they are strolling around half arsed.
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You've given Simms nothing but grief since hes been here. Now he is performing you cant cope with it.
 
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hamertime

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,217
Ccfcisparks said:
You've given Simms nothing but grief since hes been here. Now he is performing you cant cope with it.
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Hahaha
 
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steve cooper

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,218
napolimp said:
I think you're wrong, personally. He does not celebrate goals here like he did at previous clubs, and there's no reason for that change. I think he's playing for his career, his teammates, and the management, but I don't believe he's playing for the fans.

He still gets a lot of shit, by the way.
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I think you are probably right, but I also think if he can maintain his improved performances the fans will get behind him and all will be well. I don't think there is neccessarily any permanent damage done. I can't think of any examples ATM but I think there will be plenty of similar instances where fans and players have changed their relationship.
 
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napolimp

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,219
steve cooper said:
I think you are probably right, but I also think if he can maintain his improved performances the fans will get behind him and all will be well. I don't think there is neccessarily any permanent damage done. I can't think of any examples ATM but I think there will be plenty of similar instances where fans and players have changed their relationship.
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I hope you're right. I think he's a great lad, and a hardworking individual, and I'd like him to have a good career at the club. In terms of changes in relationship, I was thinking of Matty Godden. A previously great relationship which seems to have really soured recently. I understand that football's emotional from a fans point of view, and at the end of the week you just want to see your team perform, but I wish fans took a little more care of what they say about players online. It's one thing to say a player hasn't performed, but usually it turns personal and ugly. I honestly believe it's extremely rare that a professional footballer has the attitude that they just won't put the effort in, it would be detrimental to their career, so attacking a player is unreasonable and unhelpful.
 
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napolimp

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  • Mar 7, 2024
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Deleted member 9744 said:
I can't for one minute believe he is looking to move, certainly not for such reasons. I wouldn't want any player with such a temperament near the team anyway.

I have never seen fans turn on him at matches, unlike some other players. I am not on twitter so have no idea what has been said but my impression is anyone gets abuse on there. I can't believe a player would leave somewhere due to what a few idiots put in twitter.
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Really? Why do you think he did the "shushing" celebration against Brizzle?
 

Mcbean

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,221
We have scored more goals than last year ?
 
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Deleted member 9744

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napolimp said:
Really? Why do you think he did the "shushing" celebration against Brizzle?
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Must admit I don't really take much notice of player celebrations and others do this too no? It may just be those around me but I have never seen/heard anything negative towards Simms at matches unlike Wright and a few others. Personally I hate it when fans get onthe back of any of our players. The treatment of Dasilva against Preston was awful.
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Mar 7, 2024
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Mcbean said:
We have scored more goals than last year ?
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It is interesting that when the strikers weren't scoring much it was all the fault of the midfield according to some people. Now we're scoring a lot it's all because of the strikers. I still don't think Eccles, Sheaf and yes Kelly get the credit they often deserve.
 
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gspotgaz

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,224
napolimp said:
Really? Why do you think he did the "shushing" celebration against Brizzle?
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I think the fans have been decent to him in games to be fair but maybe it’s more online things he’s reading which is most the time over the top nonsense
 
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djr8369

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,225
Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
How will he know if the fans want him ?
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Players have access to the internet.
 
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djr8369

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,226
Deleted member 9744 said:
I can't for one minute believe he is looking to move, certainly not for such reasons. I wouldn't want any player with such a temperament near the team anyway.

I have never seen fans turn on him at matches, unlike some other players. I am not on twitter so have no idea what has been said but my impression is anyone gets abuse on there. I can't believe a player would leave somewhere due to what a few idiots put in twitter.
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I hope he isn’t looking to move I was more saying, in response to someone else, that I wouldn’t be surprised if he’d seen some of the stick he gets on here .
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,227
djr8369 said:
I hope he isn’t looking to move I was more saying, in response to someone else, that I wouldn’t be surprised if he’d seen some of the stick he gets on here .
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What about the stick Godden gets? I’d be seriously concerned if it bothers him
 
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djr8369

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,228
Grendel said:
What about the stick Godden gets? I’d be seriously concerned if it bothers him
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Didn’t his celebration after scoring against Oxford make it quite clear it bothers him?
 
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COVKIDSNEVERQUIT

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,229
djr8369 said:
Didn’t his celebration after scoring against Oxford make it quite clear it bothers him?
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Yeah no aeroplane, no lawnmower, just snot on the shirt.
 
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skybluecam

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,230
Bad Boy said:
I think it's fair to say that there are a number of this seasons new recruits that need some work doing on them.

I want to see Simms succeed and become a better player (as with all our signings) but there's just something that makes me think that he isn't going to be able to make that next step up and be a top striker.

Same goes for Wright.
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What’s a top striker?

Simms and Wright definitely look like players that can contribute to a team in the top 2/6. They’ve both suffered from chopping and changing formations/personnel this season and are still on to get 12-15 goals each. Give them a full season in a settled side and they would get 30-40 goals between them.
 
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StrettoBoy

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  • Mar 7, 2024
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hamertime said:
I will get behind them even if they are missing sitters, i wont get behind them if they are strolling around half arsed.
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I don't think that is an accusation that you can fairly level at him.

Jay Bothroyd was probably the last player of ours who just strolled around in an idle fashion.
 
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hamertime

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,232
StrettoBoy said:
I don't think that is an accusation that you can fairly level at him.

Jay Bothroyd was probably the last player of ours who just strolled around in an idle fashion.
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I think it is, id never seen Simms break a sweat when he was in poor form. If your not scoring the least you can do is run yourself in to the ground considering you are paid thousands of pounds a week and a lot of the blokes in the terraces are struggling.

He reminded me of Tyler walker who stole a living while he was here.

If Simms keeps improving like he is then the fans will back him.
 

AFCCOVENTRY

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,233
Simms has just turned 23 and is joint top goalscorer. He’s having a better start to his life at Coventry than Vik did.

In the last few games he’s upped the anti.
Works hard, causes issues for defenders, is laying the ball off (yes it doesn’t always come off but you can see what he’s thinking) and scoring a great variety of goals.

He’s going to have a higher ceiling than Haji and will be much improved by next season. He has all the attributes to be a top striker.

I’m not sure why some people are expecting some finished article.

It tools Viktor a number of seasons to become what he has.

Simms will go the same way.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,234
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Simms has just turned 23 and is joint top goalscorer. He’s having a better start to his life at Coventry than Vik did.

In the last few games he’s upped the anti.
Works hard, causes issues for defenders, is laying the ball off (yes it doesn’t always come off but you can see what he’s thinking) and scoring a great variety of goals.

He’s going to have a higher ceiling than Haji and will be much improved by next season. He has all the attributes to be a top striker.

I’m not sure why some people are expecting some finished article.

It tools Viktor a number of seasons to become what he has.

Simms will go the same way.
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He’s shown since Leeds away that he’s a nuisance for defenders. As a team we were struggling to make chances for our forwards.

The confidence has been building since Plymouth away and is scoring some good finishes.

12 goals this season is not a bad return at all and the fans saying he’ll never be a good goal scorer at this level must be feeling silly by now.

If not, they should be.
 
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mmttww

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  • Mar 7, 2024
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btw if anyone's comparing his first touch to Vik, don't conveniently forgot that he was almost always getting the ball in space, in the left channel. Simms is always central with several players all over him, rarely in transition. Not the same.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 7, 2024
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AFCCOVENTRY said:
Simms has just turned 23 and is joint top goalscorer. He’s having a better start to his life at Coventry than Vik did.

In the last few games he’s upped the anti.
Works hard, causes issues for defenders, is laying the ball off (yes it doesn’t always come off but you can see what he’s thinking) and scoring a great variety of goals.

He’s going to have a higher ceiling than Haji and will be much improved by next season. He has all the attributes to be a top striker.

I’m not sure why some people are expecting some finished article.

It tools Viktor a number of seasons to become what he has.

Simms will go the same way.
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So he’s going to be worth over £50 million in two years?
 

ccfcchris

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,237
It's a bit of a worry we have strikers scoring and not celebrating. Hopefully, it's not a reaction to fans comments. Whatever the reason it's not a good look.
 
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hamertime

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  • Mar 7, 2024
  • #2,238
ccfcchris said:
It's a bit of a worry we have strikers scoring and not celebrating. Hopefully, it's not a reaction to fans comments. Whatever the reason it's not a good look.
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Couldn’t care less, loads of em do it like it’s all cool or something. Rashfords been like it for years. If someone is seriously bothered about a players facial expression when they score I’d try and get away from the screen and have some sex.
 
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ccfcchris said:
It's a bit of a worry we have strikers scoring and not celebrating. Hopefully, it's not a reaction to fans comments. Whatever the reason it's not a good look.
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I would be worried if we had strikers not scoring. All the badge kissing, flag kicking is not important to me.
 
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ccfcchris

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  • Mar 7, 2024
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hamertime said:
Couldn’t care less, loads of em do it like it’s all cool or something. Rashfords been like it for years. If someone is seriously bothered about a players facial expression when they score I’d try and get away from the screen and have some sex.
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You missed what I was trying to say. I don't want them running around like deluded fuckwits just appear that they're happy they scored. I'm about as bothered by over-the-top celebrations as I am about your boring posts.
 
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