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Transfer Rumour Ellis Simms (2 Viewers)

  • Thread starter Frankly_Mr_Shankly
  • Start date Jun 27, 2023
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CCFC54321

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  • Aug 7, 2023
  • #1,331
He didn’t look fully fit to me either but he’s played all the friendly games. However he could be fatigued after a number of games in one go after hardly playing since Xmas?
 

Johhny Blue

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #1,332
Grendel said:
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Godden didn’t get service. WTF?
 
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hamertime

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #1,333
My gut feeling is he’s not very good. Could see the other player’s frustration with him.
 
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Deity

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #1,334
hamertime said:
My gut feeling is he’s not very good. Could see the other player’s frustration with him.
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Yes that was evident but he will improve under Robins and as he scores goals his confidence will improve too.
 
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hamertime

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #1,335
Deity said:
Yes that was evident but he will improve under Robins and as he scores goals his confidence will improve too.
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Let’s hope so.
 

Skyblue_LDN

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #1,336
People weren’t exactly jumping for joy when we signed Vik on a permanent. Just give the lad some time, in Robins we trust!
 
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djr8369

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #1,337
Aside from the wild shot he was very good in the second half.
 

Johnnythespider

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #1,338
Am I the only person who thinks he played alright, I've watched the game back on telly and yes there are times when he looks off the pace but he also played some decent football at times and found Godden with a Hamer type pass in the second half, he kept their defence occupied and barring the rush of blood when one on one I can't think of too much he did wrong, Robins will get him sorted.
 
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edgy

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #1,339
Some people need to realise he was not brought in to replace Gyokeres, he was brought in to take on Godden for the "finisher" role.

Wright is here to fill Vik's boots.

I'm really looking forward to seeing Wright and Simms together.
 
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Bugsy

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #1,340
gonna put a £10 on him to bag a brace against Sunderland when we play them, I know that...PUSB
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #1,341
He is lucky that Wright will be the one people are watching due to the bigger price, I would be shocked if he doesn’t get 10-15 goals this season and if Wright got around the same the Vik goals are well covered.
 
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covcity4life

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #1,342
Johnnythespider said:
Am I the only person who thinks he played alright, I've watched the game back on telly and yes there are times when he looks off the pace but he also played some decent football at times and found Godden with a Hamer type pass in the second half, he kept their defence occupied and barring the rush of blood when one on one I can't think of too much he did wrong, Robins will get him sorted.
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He played well. 6 or 7/10. When he sorts out the minor mistakes he will jump to 8s and 9s.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #1,343
Johnnythespider said:
Am I the only person who thinks he played alright, I've watched the game back on telly and yes there are times when he looks off the pace but he also played some decent football at times and found Godden with a Hamer type pass in the second half, he kept their defence occupied and barring the rush of blood when one on one I can't think of too much he did wrong, Robins will get him sorted.
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He was fine, he'll get better but he was fine on Sunday.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Aug 8, 2023
  • #1,344
I'd be concerned if he wasn't involved at all, but he was and linked up well with Godden. His execution was a bit off, just seemed to be lacking that sharpness.
 

Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,345
I'm really not sold

Its not asking much to even pretend to chase down is it? Doesnt even do that.

Noticed yesterday aswell he would make runs that are half towards the channels, half towards the penalty area. Just commit to one. Ends up in no mans land unable to recieve the ball.

Also seems to want too many touches before shooting

Im not writing him off by the way. Clearly a player in there. Is it fitness? Confidence? Needing a lot of coaching? Not sure

But Wright already looks lightyears ahead of him
 
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Londonccfcfan

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,346
Saddlebrains said:
I'm really not sold

Its not asking much to even pretend to chase down is it? Doesnt even do that.

Noticed yesterday aswell he would make runs that are half towards the channels, half towards the penalty area. Just commit to one. Ends up in no mans land unable to recieve the ball.

Also seems to want too many touches before shooting

Im not writing him off by the way. Clearly a player in there. Is it fitness? Confidence? Needing a lot of coaching? Not sure

But Wright already looks lightyears ahead of him
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Completely different players.

Simms was unlucky I thought..was always looking for space and always looking for the ball made good runs. But was never picked out. He will come good. Very very early days.
And dont forget his age. Still 4 years younger than Wright.
 
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TomRad85

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,347
He'll be fine. He's just learning how we play.

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,348
Saddlebrains said:
I'm really not sold

Its not asking much to even pretend to chase down is it? Doesnt even do that.

Noticed yesterday aswell he would make runs that are half towards the channels, half towards the penalty area. Just commit to one. Ends up in no mans land unable to recieve the ball.

Also seems to want too many touches before shooting

Im not writing him off by the way. Clearly a player in there. Is it fitness? Confidence? Needing a lot of coaching? Not sure

But Wright already looks lightyears ahead of him
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He’s shown that he can score at this level and is only 22, he’ll come good.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,349
Londonccfcfan said:
Completely different players.

Simms was unlucky I thought..was always looking for space and always looking for the ball made good runs. But was never picked out. He will come good. Very very early days.
And dont forget his age. Still 4 years younger than Wright.
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Or the fact he's played very little football since returning to Everton
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,350
Londonccfcfan said:
Completely different players.

Simms was unlucky I thought..was always looking for space and always looking for the ball made good runs. But was never picked out. He will come good. Very very early days.
And dont forget his age. Still 4 years younger than Wright.
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Also cost less than half as much.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,351
Made some good runs I thought that weren’t always noticed by Palmer or Sheaf
 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,352
Londonccfcfan said:
Completely different players.

Simms was unlucky I thought..was always looking for space and always looking for the ball made good runs. But was never picked out. He will come good. Very very early days.
And dont forget his age. Still 4 years younger than Wright.
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His movement was nowhere near as good as Godden's or Wright's and although he is reasonably quick he appears to lack acceleration over a short distance. It's early days of course and clearly he has talent but Wright looks far better so far.
 
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Tomh111

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,353
Thought he looked better yesterday than against Leicester.

There's a player there, you can see it in his movement and some of the touches. Just get him up to speed and he will be golden.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,354
Tomh111 said:
Thought he looked better yesterday than against Leicester.

There's a player there, you can see it in his movement and some of the touches. Just get him up to speed and he will be golden.
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I thought Simms played alright, looked a handful cutting from the left but didn’t get a good chance.

He will progress and Wright will too and they will form a really good partnership.

As for Godden, I’ve been critical of him and he’s proven a lot of doubters wrong. Absolutely worth a new contract and looks a lot sharper than he did at the end of last season.
 
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Garlana86

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,355
Wright seems like the guy who's going to create the space for players, similar to gyokeres, from what little I've seen of Wright so far, he's got the pace and strength to get something out of nothing or run the channels for a lost cause. Simms doesn't appear to be that player, I expect he will be more the type to get into the box to finish off chances. We'll see.
 
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Tomh111

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,356
I think he will be blighted by his size, people will assume that we should be binging balls up to him to play off
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,357
Tomh111 said:
I think he will be blighted by his size, people will assume that we should be binging balls up to him to play off
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His hold up play is quite good and we really saw it against Leicester with Faes and Vestegaard
 

Alkhen

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,358
Why anyone would write off a player after 3 matches is beyond me. Pathetic mentality. He was good in preseason and has shown he is an instinctive finisher. He is even proven at this level.

What do Coventry fans get out of starting the negativity so early? He is a young player still we need to stay off his back and let him find his feet. Surely they want him to succeed?
 
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Torquay Sky Blue

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,359
He needs work that's for sure but I remember Vik looking like a big lump and look how he turned out
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,360
Alkhen said:
Why anyone would write off a player after 3 matches is beyond me. Pathetic mentality. He was good in preseason and has shown he is an instinctive finisher. He is even proven at this level.

What do Coventry fans get out of starting the negativity so early? He is a young player still we need to stay off his back and let him find his feet. Surely they want him to succeed?
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I literally said in my post I'm not writing him off

Do you want me to draw you a picture or are you just unable to read?
 

clint van damme

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,361
Saddlebrains said:
I literally said in my post I'm not writing him off

Do you want me to draw you a picture or are you just unable to read?
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Plenty have though. Probably what he was referring to
 

Calista

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,362
Mucca Mad Boys said:
I thought Simms played alright, looked a handful cutting from the left but didn’t get a good chance.

He will progress and Wright will too and they will form a really good partnership.

As for Godden, I’ve been critical of him and he’s proven a lot of doubters wrong. Absolutely worth a new contract and looks a lot sharper than he did at the end of last season.
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tbf although I thought he looked out of touch for most of last season, he improved massively in the final few games. Maybe it took him a long time to get fully up to speed after the various injuries. Leaving aside the fluffed shots at Leicester, he's looking good now and long may it continue.
 
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Saddlebrains

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,363
clint van damme said:
Plenty have though.
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Them people are stupid. Its obvious there's a player there, im just not sure what the issue seems to be at the mo for the lethargy and poor movement (in my view). Coaching? Fitness? Confidence? All 3 probably
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,364
Saddlebrains said:
Them people are stupid. Its obvious there's a player there, im just not sure what the issue seems to be at the mo for the lethargy and poor movement (in my view). Coaching? Fitness? Confidence? All 3 probably
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I think its a confidence thing.
 
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Martin180

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  • Aug 13, 2023
  • #1,365
Saddlebrains said:
Them people are stupid. Its obvious there's a player there, im just not sure what the issue seems to be at the mo for the lethargy and poor movement (in my view). Coaching? Fitness? Confidence? All 3 probably
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I don’t think it’s lethargy I think it’s simply his style . Chris Waddle was a boyhood favourite of mine and he always looked knackered and unfit
Languid is the phrase
 
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