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Dom Hyam - Blackburn bid ? (1 Viewer)

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lord_garrincha

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #666
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Sol Campbell
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Will leave us for Leicester mid season... judas!
 
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Ann Proctor-Brown

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #667
This sale is for money for Sisu as we all know.No point selling one and having to replace him.We are going backwards.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #668
lord_garrincha said:
He did, but when pushed he said... "An approach has been made by 'being creative'."

All points to Harry Maguire.
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loaning Walker Kane or waghorn in return then and splitting wages
 
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no_loyalty

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #669
AFCCOVENTRY said:
Welcome Sol Bamba

Welcome Gary Cahill
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Branislav Ivanović?
 

lord_garrincha

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #670
Ann Proctor-Brown said:
We are going backwards.
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Well, yeah, for a defender!
 

harvey098

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #671
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
The strategy worked in League One/Two, it doesn't in the Championship.
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Huh? This is our 3rd season back in the Championship! What’s not working?
 
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Samo

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #672
Sky Blue Pete said:
No
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He said: 'Free or as close to free as I can possibly get'
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #673
lord_garrincha said:
Will leave us for Leicester mid season... judas!
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Maybe SISU could flog Gyo there for £1.5 million
 

Samo

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #674
harvey098 said:
Huh? This is our 3rd season back in the Championship! What’s not working?
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Income from sales
 

slowpoke

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #675
SKYBLUES90 said:
Rose plays well today and hyam will be forgotten about.
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I think Hyam is the better player but a fully fit Michael Rose is okay playing on the right. Staying fit is the key though.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #676
So sorry @SlowerThanPlatt and @Grendel talk about hearing what I want to hear. He absolutely said what you said
 
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theferret

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #677
This forensic analysis of Robins' inverview is funny. We've just been beaten, we've played poorly, things are going against us, is it any wonder he's pissed off?

Some people seem desperate for there to be a rift between the manager and the board. I suspect there isn't anything of the sort, but weirdly that seems to annoy people.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #678
theferret said:
This forensic analysis of Robins' inverview is funny. We've just been beaten, we've played poorly, things are going against us, is it any wonder he's pissed off?

Some people seem desperate for there to be a rift between the manager and the board. I suspect there isn't anything of the sort, but weirdly that seems to annoy people.
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There fucking should be. The answer each time he pulls a rabbit out of a hat is “now do it without the hat”
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #679
theferret said:
This forensic analysis of Robins' inverview is funny. We've just been beaten, we've played poorly, things are going against us, is it any wonder he's pissed off?

Some people seem desperate for there to be a rift between the manager and the board. I suspect there isn't anything of the sort, but weirdly that seems to annoy people.
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Well sadly nobody recorded his reaction to Dave firing up the Uber for Hyam
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #680
shmmeee said:
There fucking should be. The answer each time he pulls a rabbit out of a hat is “now do it without the hat”
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the real point is he said he’s used to dealing with adversity. Why, with record season ticket sales and no doubt merchandise is he describing adverse working conditions
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #681
Grendel said:
the real point is he said he’s used to dealing with adversity. Why, with record season ticket sales and no doubt merchandise is he describing adverse working conditions
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Not to worry about those ST sales next season
 
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theferret

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #682
shmmeee said:
There fucking should be. The answer each time he pulls a rabbit out of a hat is “now do it without the hat”
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Well I'm a big fan of Robins, but if he seriously can't handle having a senior player sold for the 1st time since we were promoted to the championship, then he's in the wrong job.

I somehow suspect that he knows how the world works though and all will be fine around the water cooler on Monday.
 

shmmeee

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #683
theferret said:
Well I'm a big fan of Robins, but if he seriously can't handle having a senior player sold for the 1st time since we were promoted to the championship, then he's in the wrong job.

I somehow suspect that he knows how the world works though and all will be fine around the water cooler on Monday.
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I don’t get this. It’s not about the sale. It’s about the lack of budget to put out a competitive squad. No one cares if we sell someone as long as we don’t get ripped off, we care whether the squad is moving forwards or backwards overall. And arguably this is the first season it’s gone backwards under Robins.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #684
theferret said:
Well I'm a big fan of Robins, but if he seriously can't handle having a senior player sold for the 1st time since we were promoted to the championship, then he's in the wrong job.

I somehow suspect that he knows how the world works though and all will be fine around the water cooler on Monday.
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He has rebuilt the squad many times but come on, Hyam being rushed out the door a week before the window shuts was never part of the plan.
 
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long way home

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #685
He sounds very realistic about it all, frustrated but knows and already has things going on to find solutions. Cant be easy keeping all his players positive with al going on, but i hope he does het a chance one day to have full support with backing to help him do his job without his hands tied.

Lesser managers have been given more and have done way less then MR. Hope one day he gets the chance and the backing with an owner that doesn't see 12th in the championship as the limits of the clubs capability.
 
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theferret

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #686
shmmeee said:
I don’t get this. It’s not about the sale. It’s about the lack of budget to put out a competitive squad. No one cares if we sell someone as long as we don’t get ripped off, we care whether the squad is moving forwards or backwards overall. And arguably this is the first season it’s gone backwards under Robins.
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Arguably. All I heard over the summer was 'if we keep the big 3, I'll take that', we do that but then sell Hyam and people lose bladder control.

Lets see who we bring in.

We haven't seen enough of the players we have brought in to properly judge if we are weaker overall than last season. I'm not sure we are tbh. It's fine to be concerned, but some people need to give their heads a wobble, some really hysterical takes.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #687
theferret said:
Arguably. All I heard over the summer was 'if we keep the big 3, I'll take that', we do that but then sell Hyam and people lose bladder control.

Lets see who we bring in.

We haven't seen enough of the players we have brought in to properly judge if we are weaker overall than last season. I'm not sure we are tbh. It's fine to be concerned, but some people need to give their heads a wobble, some really hysterical takes.
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It’s flogging Hyam for a quick buck that people don’t like. The price is a piss take considering the going rate in the division.
 
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SheafIsGod

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #688
Dunno why everyone is losing their marbles over this. Anything over a million and I’m snapping hands off. Very average defender.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #689
theferret said:
Arguably. All I heard over the summer was 'if we keep the big 3, I'll take that', we do that but then sell Hyam and people lose bladder control.

Lets see who we bring in.

We haven't seen enough of the players we have brought in to properly judge if we are weaker overall than last season. I'm not sure we are tbh. It's fine to be concerned, but some people need to give their heads a wobble, some really hysterical takes.
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Since he’s been here he’s had money to spend in the lower leagues and buy quality players for those leagues largely from the proceeds of Wilson and Maddison - the Wilson money for Newcastle was pretty much what we also paid for Hamer so actually this is a totally different situation where he’s now having players sold to keep cash flow positive and having to sign inferior players

It’s delusional to refer to a model. Most players we’ve sold since his arrival haven’t generated anything like the cash those sales continued to give us
 

Finham

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #690
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Sol Campbell
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Brian Kilcline.
 
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theferret

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #691
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He has rebuilt the squad many times but come on, Hyam being rushed out the door a week before the window shuts was never part of the plan.
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He hasn't 'rebuilt the squad many times', that's nonsense. He has mainly been able to improve on the squad in the past 3-4 years. It's be ages since we sold anyone, and prior to SM players that left it was more a case of us outgrowing them than us cashing in and we improved with the replacements - we sell Chaplain, we sign Godden for example. We lose a loannee like Walsh and we spend 1.5 million on Hamer. Biamou goes, we spend £1 miion on Vik.

This is the 1st player we seem to have sold in a few years to balance the books, but it is one we can live with imo, and there will be a replacement. No time for panic.
 
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Ibby

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #692
Sad to see him go.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #693
theferret said:
He hasn't 'rebuilt the squad many times', that's nonsense. He has mainly been able to improve on the squad in the past 3-4 years. It's be ages since we sold anyone, and prior to SM players that left it was more a case of us outgrowing them than us cashing in and we improved with the replacements - we sell Chaplain, we sign Godden for example. We lose a loannee like Walsh and we spend 1.5 million on Hamer. Biamou goes, we spend £1 miion on Vik.

This is the 1st player we seem to have sold in a few years to balance the books, but it is one we can live with imo, and there will be a replacement. No time for panic.
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The question is will he be the only sale-I’m not convinced
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #694
theferret said:
He hasn't 'rebuilt the squad many times', that's nonsense. He has mainly been able to improve on the squad in the past 3-4 years. It's be ages since we sold anyone, and prior to SM players that left it was more a case of us outgrowing them than us cashing in and we improved with the replacements - we sell Chaplain, we sign Godden for example. We lose a loannee like Walsh and we spend 1.5 million on Hamer. Biamou goes, we spend £1 miion on Vik.

This is the 1st player we seem to have sold in a few years to balance the books, but it is one we can live with imo, and there will be a replacement. No time for panic.
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Gyokeres will be nowhere near a million and as I’ve said he Wilson money paid for hamer
 
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theferret

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #695
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The question is will he be the only sale-I’m not convinced
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You might be right, that would change things no doubt.
 
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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #696
theferret said:
and there will be a replacement.
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We'll see who that replacement is. I'm not confident we'll be going for the appropriate type but, they've a couple of days to prove me wrong.
 

slowpoke

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #697
Selling defenders isn’t a problem or something new over the years we sold Jeff Blockley, Garry Gillespie and Phil Babb all for at the time British records fees for defenders but large chunks of those received fees were re-invested in the team and that’s the difference doesn’t matter if they get £1.5 million, 5 million or 10 mill. for Hyam or anyone else for that matter not a penny will go into the squad we have to somehow get rid of these owners as this will happen time & time again.
 
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lordy_87

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #698
Regardless of the circumstances best of luck to him. Can't begrudge him for going one bit, deserved really - despite some on here often questioning his championship credentials and even going as far as to say Rose is better than him which is laughable. Been superb for us and racked up over 190 appearances, time for him to earn some money.

Farewell Dom
 
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theferret

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #699
Grendel said:
Gyokeres will be nowhere near a million and as I’ve said he Wilson money paid for hamer
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Of course, there is a lag and it may well have been the Wilson money that financed Hamer, so what, the point being that they did invest it to strengthen the squad at that point.

Not forgetting the fact we operate at a loss, as do all Championship clubs pretty much. What do we do about that? I'd prefer the club became fully sustainable and operated entirely within its means, but given this is not really possible in order to stay competitive in this league, a cautious approach I think is OK, rather that than gambling with the future of the club, surely? Lots of clubs will go pop in the next 5 years, let's not be one of them.
 

clint van damme

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  • Aug 27, 2022
  • #700
slowpoke said:
Selling defenders isn’t a problem or something new over the years we sold Jeff Blockley, Garry Gillespie and Phil Babb all for at the time British records fees for defenders but large chunks of those received fees were re-invested in the team and that’s the difference doesn’t matter if they get £1.5 million, 5 million or 10 mill. for Hyam or anyone else for that matter not a penny will go into the squad we have to somehow get rid of these owners as this will happen time & time again.
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One of the first 3 you mentioned is probably the replacement we've got lined up.
 
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