Do you want to discuss boring politics? (21 Viewers)

[Captain Dart]

Mandy is a poisonous brand.

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Who is Joe Dancy, well he is Streeting's partner.

 

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[Nick]

The thread on this specific case has more than 1000 posts, so I’m not sure how you’ve reached that conclusion.

Gone quiet since more details have come out, CCTV images etc.

I get what @rob9872 is saying, we need to sort our own shit out but people are far more obsessed with Israel, Trump etc. I don't know if it's now there's the internet and it's just what is rammed down people's throats all day every day.

I am selfish that I am more worried about my daughter when she gets hassled at the bus stop than what's happening in Israel or US.

When it comes to the politics, they are all cunts really. People like Jess Philiips who even claim to be all for women and women's rights but turns out she does fuck all she promises, but sounds good. (Well, she is brummie so not sure about sounding good).

Some people are petrified of saying anything or having anything said about some of the real issues closer to home. Maybe that's why it's easier to just say "trump".

 

[SBT]

Gone quiet since more details have come out, CCTV images etc.

You’ve posted on the thread once in the last four months - does that mean you think it’s ‘meh’ as well?

I think you’re mistaking people having discussions about things you’re not interested in for people not caring about a certain issue.

 

[Nick]

You’ve posted on the thread once in the last four months - does that mean you think it’s ‘meh’ as well?

I think you’re mistaking people having discussions about things you’re not interested in for people not caring about a certain issue.

Not really sure that's the gotcha you think. I actually bumped it.

I'm not mistaking anything, I can only assume people who are obsessed with trump and Israel live in nicer areas with no issues near them so don't see things or no risk of it bothering them.

I'll happily say that what is going on that impacts me personally takes priority.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Because Epstein was a US citizen, who was prosecuted and has been dead for a number of years. If you think the UK govt should be wasting hours discussing him and his associates and what went on overseas, then that's on you. I think they should have more pressing matters.

Suppose strictly it’s starmers judgement on employing someone that’s being debated rather than the files themselves

I’m confused as to how the government haven’t got a process whereby the stuff mandleson shared seemingly criminally is hidden in files and only sees the light of day when they’re released
Surely we check what information is shared - I have union cases where people are dismissed for viewing information without a business reason

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Starmer apologising on TV because he has been caught out the rat.
Getting it in before handing over the report. What a twat.

Surely better than denying it

 

[SBAndy]

2 thoughts:

1. It’s clear to me that the Mandelson appointment was pushed through by McSweeney and there’s chatter that maybe he will be the fall guy for all this. Personally I don’t think so as he’s effectively Starmer’s political weathervane (albeit a crap one) and I don’t think Starmer has the bollocks to let him go. Both will be gone following the May elections.
2. I have a mild fear that the part where government are trying to play the ‘national security’ card regards what is/isn’t disclosed relating to the Mandelson appointment is because there’s something documented somewhere that Mandelson’s relationship with Epstein puts him in a position to better leverage Trump. I hope not as things will get rather explosive.

 

[SBT]

Not really sure that's the gotcha you think. I actually bumped it.

I'm not mistaking anything, I can only assume people who are obsessed with trump and Israel live in nicer areas with no issues near them so don't see things or no risk of it bothering them.

I'll happily say that what is going on that impacts me personally takes priority.

Pretty wild assumption imo!

I don’t think the amount that people post about stuff on this particular forum indicates much at all about how seriously they take certain issues, much less about how nice their neighbourhood is.

 

[Bugsy]

Surely better than denying it

Pete, he was playing dumb, he knew full well from the get go.
If he didn't get caught out he would have denied it.
Starmer had to apologise before the report comes out as it shames him for what he is.
A spinless rat.

 

[wingy]

Gone quiet since more details have come out, CCTV images etc.

I get what @rob9872 is saying, we need to sort our own shit out but people are far more obsessed with Israel, Trump etc. I don't know if it's now there's the internet and it's just what is rammed down people's throats all day every day.

I am selfish that I am more worried about my daughter when she gets hassled at the bus stop than what's happening in Israel or US.

When it comes to the politics, they are all cunts really. People like Jess Philiips who even claim to be all for women and women's rights but turns out she does fuck all she promises, but sounds good. (Well, she is brummie so not sure about sounding good).

Some people are petrified of saying anything or having anything said about some of the real issues closer to home. Maybe that's why it's easier to just say "trump".

Think that the world is shaped by these happenings Islam could be construed with Trumpian standard's at this very moment?

 

[rob9872]

Pete, he was playing dumb, he knew full well from the get go.
If he didn't get caught out he would have denied it.
Starmer had to apologise before the report comes out as it shames him for what he is.
A spinless rat.

Can we leave Geckos out of this please.

 

[SBAndy]

Pete, he was playing dumb, he knew full well from the get go.
If he didn't get caught out he would have denied it.
Starmer had to apologise before the report comes out as it shames him for what he is.
A spinless rat.

Great typo at the end there, works both ways.

 

[StrettoBoy]

Good point actually, who's going to want to take it on before the locals?

That'll probably be the time he goes.

I’ve been thinking that for a while, although I suppose they might remove Starmer and appoint a caretaker until after the local elections.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I’m sur

2 thoughts:

1. It’s clear to me that the Mandelson appointment was pushed through by McSweeney and there’s chatter that maybe he will be the fall guy for all this. Personally I don’t think so as he’s effectively Starmer’s political weathervane (albeit a crap one) and I don’t think Starmer has the bollocks to let him go. Both will be gone following the May elections.
2. I have a mild fear that the part where government are trying to play the ‘national security’ card regards what is/isn’t disclosed relating to the Mandelson appointment is because there’s something documented somewhere that Mandelson’s relationship with Epstein puts him in a position to better leverage Trump. I hope not as things will get rather explosive.

Im sure that’s why he was the person due to his connections

 

[Captain Dart]

 

[fatso]

PR is terrible imo. Imagine being governed by coalitions that no one actually voted for?

The current UK context, you’d probably have a big Labour-Green-LD block v Tory/Reform or if we went the same way as Germany, a Labour/Tory grand coalition because their more right or left wing partners are too unpalatable.

Personally, I think it’s good that the last 2 governments have been stonking majorities. It’s unfortunate that they’ve just wasted it because they’ve lacked direction one way or another.

Agreed PR is the worst possible outcome. You end up with nothing getting done as no one has the final say. Every policy gets watered down so much it becomes meaningless and eventually the whole system collapses.

The problem isnt FPTP the problem is we have parties that lie to get votes then do the opposite once in power.

And neither party so far, has had the balls to make the tough decisions.

 

[Grendel]

I’m sur

Im sure that’s why he was the person due to his connections

Within political circles apparently the other candidate considered was George Osbourne

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Agreed PR is the worst possible outcome. You end up with nothing getting done as no one has the final say. Every policy gets watered down so much it becomes meaningless and eventually the whole system collapses.

The problem isnt FPTP the problem is we have parties that lie to get votes then do the opposite once in power.

And neither party so far, has had the balls to make the tough decisions.

We’d get used to it