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Brighton Sky Blue

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here’s the article


Now I’m quite a spiritual person and a believer in the power of the mind. I’d even go as far to say as I believe that hypnosis can work for some people if they have the determination/strength of character to change a mental weakness/issue. Id also say there are a lot of chancers in that industry and the fact he had a drama/acting background would indicate he could well be convincing

he was caught out badly on the rest is politics podcast. You cant be there telling everyone that it will all be ok we just need to move to a totally different monetary theory/system which will free up all the cash, without knowing even the very basics of the current one

ps maybe he shouldn’t be so coy about it all as her tits did grow 🤷‍♂️
He wasn’t trying to make boobs grow with his mind then. And I say this as someone who has little appetite to see him gain serious influence.

Agree with you on the second half though and that’s why I wouldn’t vote for him along with other stances I fundamentally disagree with, even from a climate science perspective.
 

Grendel

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“The unconscious mind can increase the bust size”
 

Grendel

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He wasn’t trying to make boobs grow with his mind then. And I say this as someone who has little appetite to see him gain serious influence.

Agree with you on the second half though and that’s why I wouldn’t vote for him along with other stances I fundamentally disagree with, even from a climate science perspective.

He believes the power of the mind can change physical elements of the body
 

Grendel

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He doesn't talk in the article at all about physically growing from what I can infer, more than a womans perception of them can allow them to increase by 1 size.

I think you are reading the wrong article. He’s even admitted it himself.
 

Ccfcisparks

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He wasn’t trying to make boobs grow with his mind then. And I say this as someone who has little appetite to see him gain serious influence.

Agree with you on the second half though and that’s why I wouldn’t vote for him along with other stances I fundamentally disagree with, even from a climate science perspective.
To me he is talking about changing ones perception of their own body.

It reads of being able to help body dysmorphia rather than physically growing anything.
 

Ccfcisparks

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Anyway I would suggest Farage being willing to call someone a Sussy Big Chungus on cameo for £75 is much more an indicator of a grifter.
 
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Grendel

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Anyway I would suggest Farage being willing to call someone a Sussy Big Chungus on cameo for £75 is much more an indicator of a grifter.

The Private Eye articles show Polanski as someone with scant interest in politics.
 

chiefdave

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Zara Sultana - wow 😮 is she real
Don't think anyone was that hopefully that it wouldn't fall apart at some point but it has truly been a car crash.

And now the way they've set up the leadership just invites months / years of infighting and people trying to take control or push their own agenda while nothing moves forward.

She'd better hope some of the people backing her are willing to keep the cheque book open when she's no longer an MP. Corbyn won't really give a shit, he can keep being a local MP or more than likely retire as he'll be 80 when the next election rolls round. Some of the other current MPs have already quit or are distancing themselves.

Not sure if she's got terrible advisors or just not listening to them but she really seems to have fucked it.
 

Grendel

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Don't think anyone was that hopefully that it wouldn't fall apart at some point but it has truly been a car crash.

And now the way they've set up the leadership just invites months / years of infighting and people trying to take control or push their own agenda while nothing moves forward.

She'd better hope some of the people backing her are willing to keep the cheque book open when she's no longer an MP. Corbyn won't really give a shit, he can keep being a local MP or more than likely retire as he'll be 80 when the next election rolls round. Some of the other current MPs have already quit or are distancing themselves.

Not sure if she's got terrible advisors or just not listening to them but she really seems to have fucked it.

She’s a narcissist
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Don't think anyone was that hopefully that it wouldn't fall apart at some point but it has truly been a car crash.

And now the way they've set up the leadership just invites months / years of infighting and people trying to take control or push their own agenda while nothing moves forward.

She'd better hope some of the people backing her are willing to keep the cheque book open when she's no longer an MP. Corbyn won't really give a shit, he can keep being a local MP or more than likely retire as he'll be 80 when the next election rolls round. Some of the other current MPs have already quit or are distancing themselves.

Not sure if she's got terrible advisors or just not listening to them but she really seems to have fucked it.
She should have just sent in an application for somewhere like Novara/Zeteo/JoePolitics and dined out on rebelling against Starmer on one of those platforms
 

Grendel

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She should have just sent in an application for somewhere like Novara/Zeteo/JoePolitics and dined out on rebelling against Starmer on one of those platforms

What’s the odds she will challenge Mahmood in Hall Green with Galloway at her side?
 

chiefdave

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Wouldn’t bet against it. I don’t watch Question Time anymore but they should get Sultana on the panel, it’d be cracking entertainment.
If you watched it you'd know she was on a couple of weeks ago ;)
to be fair its near unwatchable these days as is most of the political programming. same old people not answering questions and wanting to get pre-prepared soundbites in.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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If you watched it you'd know she was on a couple of weeks ago ;)
to be fair its near unwatchable these days as is most of the political programming. same old people not answering questions and wanting to get pre-prepared soundbites in.
I stopped watching it a few years ago after the farce of an audience they picked to face Mick Lynch in Stratford. Fiona Bruce is also just not on the same level as Dimbleby for moderating it either.
 

rob9872

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I stopped watching it a few years ago after the farce of an audience they picked to face Mick Lynch in Stratford. Fiona Bruce is also just not on the same level as Dimbleby for moderating it either.
I pretty much stopped watching after they had Nick Griffin on. People call Farage racist. I don't actually think he is, just a grifter to lean towards any opinion that keeps him relevant and getting paid. Griffin is on a different level, but unfortunately he's smart, articulate, well educated and nasty. He only had one agenda but it backfired somewhat as he knew that topic inside out and came across as if his views were more moderate. He should never have been able to share that platform in the first place.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I pretty much stopped watching after they had Nick Griffin on. People call Farage racist. I don't actually think he is, just a grifter to lean towards any opinion that keeps him relevant and getting paid. Griffin is on a different level, but unfortunately he's smart, articulate, well educated and nasty. He only had one agenda but it backfired somewhat as he knew that topic inside out and came across as if his views were more moderate. He should never have been able to share that platform in the first place.
Interesting you saw it that way, I thought Griffin was exposed for what he was and was torn to pieces. The BNP’s electoral destruction didn’t take long to follow afterwards either.

They also keep picking Kate Andrews to come on, who was in the same cohort and student halls as me. Identikit libertarian talking points every time.
 

rob9872

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Interesting you saw it that way, I thought Griffin was exposed for what he was and was torn to pieces. The BNP’s electoral destruction didn’t take long to follow afterwards either.

They also keep picking Kate Andrews to come on, who was in the same cohort and student halls as me. Identikit libertarian talking points every time.
I've actually just Googled it and it's not how I remember it tbh although perhaps in hindsight it wasnt that as he was on lots of stuff around that time and I know there were protests against him. Your recollection probably more valid as he'd referred to it as a lynch mob. I do remember the protests though and still shouldn't have been enabled on the BBC.

Wasted talent too, as I said before he is articulate and could have used his platform and interest in politics for good, but instead he's just a c**t.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I've actually just Googled it and it's not how I remember it tbh although perhaps in hindsight it wasnt that as he was on lots of stuff around that time and I know there were protests against him. Your recollection probably more valid as he'd referred to it as a lynch mob. I do remember the protests though and still shouldn't have been enabled on the BBC.

Wasted talent too, as I said before he is articulate and could have used his platform and interest in politics for good, but instead he's just a c**t.
I was told the BBC has been biased in favour of the woke agenda for decades 🤷
 

rob9872

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I was told the BBC has been biased in favour of the woke agenda for decades 🤷
In fairness I think both can be true. Having extreme views on either side isn't helpful. I think the issue with a QT audience is that they tried to be representative of political opinions with a proportion for each party. When the election was on there was Labour, Lib Dem, Green, Cymru, SNP, Tory & Reform/UKIP - basically 5 left leaning parties, 2 right so the proportional split was heavily left and the questions appeared loaded. I think that's generally where the unfair 'woke' rhetoric originated.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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In fairness I think both can be true. Having extreme views on either side isn't helpful. I think the issue with a QT audience is that they tried to be representative of political opinions with a proportion for each party. When the election was on there was Labour, Lib Dem, Green, Cymru, SNP, Tory & Reform/UKIP - basically 5 left leaning parties, 2 right so the proportional split was heavily left and the questions appeared loaded. I think that's generally where the unfair 'woke' rhetoric originated.
The audiences are at least in theory meant to reflect electoral voting patterns based on how the constituency voted at the last GE, but I imagine they have a challenge in vetting everyone who wants to go on.

The problem in any case though is the poor moderation as I said above. David Dimbleby usually did a very good job in keeping things balanced and ensuring the audience and panel behaved, Fiona Bruce gets too involved.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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One bit of good news in all the bad news/ shitshow. This is what’s needed



Let’s hope they can implement this type of thing across the board.

About 50-60 years too late on nuclear but good going I agree. The stuff about applying it to other sectors is vague so let’s wait and see what that looks like in practice.
 

chiefdave

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In fairness I think both can be true. Having extreme views on either side isn't helpful. I think the issue with a QT audience is that they tried to be representative of political opinions with a proportion for each party. When the election was on there was Labour, Lib Dem, Green, Cymru, SNP, Tory & Reform/UKIP - basically 5 left leaning parties, 2 right so the proportional split was heavily left and the questions appeared loaded. I think that's generally where the unfair 'woke' rhetoric originated.
Someone, might have been Maitlis, said in a talk they gave that the way balance worked was that both sides are given equal airtime.

So if you had one point of view supported by 90% of experts in whatever field was being discussed you had to give equal representation to the 10% viewpoint.

Obvious problem with that is minority or marginal views are presented as equally valid as the mainstream consensus.
 

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