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fernandopartridge

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Agreed. I don’t think it was her intention to raise main taxes, even if the manifesto promise was ridiculous and unnecessary. Unfortunately certain elements outside her control like higher global bond yields, have been exacerbated by own goals such as increasing emp’ers NIC (which didn’t help inflation) and party resistance to any spending controls, which have worsened the overall fiscal position.

The crazy thing is, by not showing even a semblance of perceived control over spending we are probably paying more to borrow, thereby reducing the cash available to spend on public services. We will all have to pay for that now. Unintended but pretty obvious consequences 🤷‍♂️.
Good job that bonds are not necessary then isn't it
 

Captain Dart

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Bugsy

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Brighton Sky Blue

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PVA

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To think that the criminals of the past had to come up with all these elaborate schemes to escape prison, when all they needed to do was wait for Labour to be elected

There's plenty of stuff to give the government stick for, not sure this can be pinned on them though!

(though you may well have been making a joke, not sure!)
 

PVA

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You must admit the optics of this are terrible.

Oh absolutely!

But it's not the government's fault is it, its an error by an individual somewhere in the prison system/civil service who of course are not elected and not part of Labour.

From what I've read a lot of this stuff is done manually and is absolutely ripe for human error, like this.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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The rules should go out the window if you commit a crime.
But arresting, trying and sending people to prison are part of the rules. So if they go out the window if someone commits a crime then we literally can't do anything to them at all.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Oh absolutely!

But it's not the government's fault is it, its an error by an individual somewhere in the prison system/civil service who of course are not elected and not part of Labour.

From what I've read a lot of this stuff is done manually and is absolutely ripe for human error, like this.
Not really buying that, for it to happen twice in relatively quick succession just shows no lessons were learned by those who have oversight.
 

Ccfcisparks

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2 escaped from Wandsworth Prison. My friend lives on the street of the prison and its amazing to see it just plonked in a residential street. He was waiting at the bus stop the morning Daniel Khalife escaped Wandsworth
 

Grendel

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PVA

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Not really buying that, for it to happen twice in relatively quick succession just shows no lessons were learned by those who have oversight.

It's a manual entry form that some poor sod, probably on minimum wage, has to check a box to say this particular criminal is on immigration hold. That box was not checked for these two individuals.

If a doctor erroneously discharged a patient and they died the next day is that the government's fault?
 

SBT

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It's a manual entry form that some poor sod, probably on minimum wage, has to check a box to say this particular criminal is on immigration hold. That box was not checked for these two individuals.

If a doctor erroneously discharged a patient and they died the next day is that the government's fault?
If a public service is under-resourced to the extent that key safety measures can be short-circuited by low-level employees then yes it’s absolutely the government’s fault?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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It's a manual entry form that some poor sod, probably on minimum wage, has to check a box to say this particular criminal is on immigration hold. That box was not checked for these two individuals.

If a doctor erroneously discharged a patient and they died the next day is that the government's fault?
Once is misfortune, twice is carelessness.
 

Grendel

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rob9872

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I see Sultana in the HoC yesterday raising why Soldier F had higher than normal funding for his defence of the Bloody Sunday trial. You'd think he'd been awarded damages all he did was clear his name. It appears she's questioning the legitimacy of it rather than be satisfied with justice. What she really wanted was a conviction. IRA sympathiser just like Corbyn to put with her Palestine Action badge. Assume she's forgotten about the IRA bomb on the city she's supposed to represent, I'm sure the constituents are delighted.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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I see Sultana in the HoC yesterday raising why Soldier F had higher than normal funding for his defence of the Bloody Sunday trial. You'd think he'd been awarded damages all he did was clear his name. It appears she's questioning the legitimacy of it rather than be satisfied with justice. What she really wanted was a conviction. IRA sympathiser just like Corbyn to put with her Palestine Action badge. Assume she's forgotten about the IRA bomb on the city she's supposed to represent, I'm sure the constituents are delighted.
She's a disgrace to the constituency and to the city as a whole.
 

PVA

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Also she seems to be holding on to £800k of membership fees raised by ‘Your Party’ and refusing to release them to the party. What an absolute disaster that has been.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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If a public service is under-resourced to the extent that key safety measures can be short-circuited by low-level employees then yes it’s absolutely the government’s fault?
Define ‘under resourced’. The NHS will get £246.8bn from now until the end of the parliament.

The NHS budget has only grown, the question is by how much. No one can actually give a concrete figure of what the NHS ‘needs’. They can’t because it’s a money pit.

Even under the last Labour government, despite high increases in the NHS budgets, the health outcomes are very average.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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Also she seems to be holding on to £800k of membership fees raised by ‘Your Party’ and refusing to release them to the party. What an absolute disaster that has been.
Is anyone surprised that this has gone badly? Zarah Sultana’s politics is befitting of a uni student union than MP or potential party leader.

Low grade politicians across the board.
 

mmttww

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as much as I like a lot of her policy positions, and from a lot of accounts she did a better job than most at the nuts and bolts of being an MP, she's made herself look like a knob since the Your Party stuff started.
 

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