Do you want to discuss boring politics? (15 Viewers)

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Found this very interesting, the end 'result' may surprise some.

 

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[Sick Boy]

Found this very interesting, the end 'result' may surprise some.

I think it'll happen eventually but probably towards the end of our lifetimes.

 

[Captain Dart]

Your electricity bills are going to go up and up even if wholesale prices halve.
This is the data industry spokespersons presented to parliament.
The energy policy is a complete pig's ear.

 

[Briles]

One for you oldies

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

One for you oldies
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They've captured Angela Rayner pretty well on the right there

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Your electricity bills are going to go up and up even if wholesale prices halve.
This is the data industry spokespersons presented to parliament.
The energy policy is a complete pig's ear.

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But it's not just electricity prices is it. If we don't have net zero and the planet keeps getting hotter, how much are your food bills going to go up because of massive increased irrigation needs and crop failures? How much extra will we need to spend on the fire service and how much will repairing the damage those fires cause cost? It's not a standalone issue - it's interconnected to pretty much everything else.

And besides, a large part of electricity prices 'policy costs' are due to gas setting the wholesale price, not renewables.

 

[Captain Dart]

But it's not just electricity prices is it. If we don't have net zero and the planet keeps getting hotter, how much are your food bills going to go up because of massive increased irrigation needs and crop failures? How much extra will we need to spend on the fire service and how much will repairing the damage those fires cause cost? It's not a standalone issue - it's interconnected to pretty much everything else.

And besides, a large part of electricity prices 'policy costs' are due to gas setting the wholesale price, not renewables.

There is no climate crisis, China is building coal fired power stations, tell them they have to freeze. India is consuming more and more power too. I am sure Africa will follow.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

There is no climate crisis, China is building coal fired power stations, tell them they have to freeze. India is consuming more and more power too. I am sure Africa will follow.
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Countries building coal power electricity stations isn't proof there is no climate crisis.

People building these things because they put economic growth above everything else doesn't mean the world isn't burning due to it.

 

[wingy]

Your electricity bills are going to go up and up even if wholesale prices halve.
This is the data industry spokespersons presented to parliament.
The energy policy is a complete pig's ear.

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Has any calc's been done around bit coin mining or data centres requirements or protected usage?

 

[Briles]

But it's not just electricity prices is it. If we don't have net zero and the planet keeps getting hotter, how much are your food bills going to go up because of massive increased irrigation needs and crop failures? How much extra will we need to spend on the fire service and how much will repairing the damage those fires cause cost? It's not a standalone issue - it's interconnected to pretty much everything else.

And besides, a large part of electricity prices 'policy costs' are due to gas setting the wholesale price, not renewables.

Won't have to have the heating on though

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Won't have to have the heating on thoughView attachment 46621

Nope, though the government are considering setting up a car trade-in scheme where you can get a guaranteed £5k for your knackered old car to put towards a new sailboat.

 

[wingy]

Nope, though the government are considering setting up a car trade-in scheme where you can get a guaranteed £5k for your knackered old car to put towards a new sailboat.

Oh blimey, Nothing but your bus fare home coming back.!

 

[Ian1779]

Your electricity bills are going to go up and up even if wholesale prices halve.
This is the data industry spokespersons presented to parliament.
The energy policy is a complete pig's ear.

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Interesting how they don’t flag the impact of the pointless standing charge here.