Do you want to discuss boring politics? (17 Viewers)

[wingy]

Anyway back to the topic,say if someone wanted to erase you what better way than possess all critical information in the digital landscape just hack the info and press send like those blokes in Lebanon.

 

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[SkyBlueDom26]

Don't be such twat, no need for ad hominem on people is there.

Think most would argue that the opinion he shared regarding the boiling water is absurd but there we go

 

[fernandopartridge]

A government of all the talents

 

[TomRad85]

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

The fact I work my arse off all week and have fuck all to show for it?

The fact im having my pants pulled down everytime I fill my car up?

The fact that im paying more for gas and electric every year for no reason?

The fact when I had an SVT episode of 200BPM out of nowhere I was told there was no ambulances?

The fact that the £800 a month tax i pay is going towards housing undocumented men we know nothing about to be put up in luxury hotels?

The fact that if I need a doctor I cant get one?

The fact that my weekly shop price is ballooning month on month for the same product?

The fact that if I need a copper because ive been mugged or burgled I cant get one but there will be one there if I post an inflammatory tweet?

The fact that the justice system is in absolute disarray?

I could go on if you like?

And you blame this government ok then

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

So basically, the choice is to vote for a party that has no serious policies (in your opinion) or..... vote for a party who has serious policies (in your opinion) who will just completely ignore all those policies and promises and do what the fuck they want anyway! And force us with digital ID to boot, in some weird way thinking that'll stop the boats coming!

Rock and a hard place where im sitting. And the way I see it, Labour and Conservatives have had long enough and fucked up enough to be given any more opportunities. They're both a guilty as one another for the mess we're currently in! Its time for a change, and of all the other options available, Reform are really the only plausible option. Even if that option is just to give the 2 main parties a wake up call and a huge kick up the arse to sort their shit out!

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How are the tories and Labour both equally guilty?

Unbelievable!

I don’t get the argument for digital id and I am uncomfortable with the winter fuel and two child benefit cap and the approach to Israel but the fundamental issues with our country are on austerity and lack of investment and we’re having our chains yanked into thinking it’s all the fault of immigration

Anyone who thinks reform or the tories were going to save our industry needs to wake up

At least the football keeps us sane

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Think most would argue that the opinion he shared regarding the boiling water is absurd but there we go

Have you followed his trial?
think the 3 knives were more the issue than the boiling water
Why are you so fixated

 

[SBAndy]

No fun allowed in here I’m afraid.

 

[Captain Dart]

It seems also the notion right wing are the opposition

Lib Dem’s have today opposed it
Greens oppose it
Ironically Badenoch originally didn’t but now does
Liberty opposes it
SNP oppose it

Corbyn and Burgon too.

 

[chiefdave]

How are the tories and Labour both equally guilty?

Unbelievable!

I don’t get the argument for digital id and I am uncomfortable with the winter fuel and two child benefit cap and the approach to Israel but the fundamental issues with our country are on austerity and lack of investment and we’re having our chains yanked into thinking it’s all the fault of immigration

Anyone who thinks reform or the tories were going to save our industry needs to wake up

At least the football keeps us sane

I'm not exactly a fan of Starmer and his inability to read the room is astonishing. But having said that the amount of shit he is getting for not fixing 14 years of damage in little over a year is insane.

Fair enough if you dislike him over a single issue, his inaction over Israel being a big one of course, but where has this idea everything could be quickly sorted come from. In a lot of areas, such as immigration, we're seeing action taken but things take time.

Having said that I'm amazed they didn't have a whole pile of quick and easy wins ready to go. Instead they seem to pick things like WFA which have made them deeply unpopular.

 

[Captain Dart]

Also for most of these things you already need ID for?

You need to move to a properly authoritarian country mate, ever considered North Korea, I hear it's lovely in Springtime.

 

[chiefdave]

The fact I work my arse off all week and have fuck all to show for it?

The fact im having my pants pulled down everytime I fill my car up?

The fact that im paying more for gas and electric every year for no reason?

The fact when I had an SVT episode of 200BPM out of nowhere I was told there was no ambulances?

The fact that the £800 a month tax i pay is going towards housing undocumented men we know nothing about to be put up in luxury hotels?

The fact that if I need a doctor I cant get one?

The fact that my weekly shop price is ballooning month on month for the same product?

The fact that if I need a copper because ive been mugged or burgled I cant get one but there will be one there if I post an inflammatory tweet?

The fact that the justice system is in absolute disarray?

I could go on if you like?

Interestingly this is pretty much the same thing you hear in many countries. Was listening to a Canadian podcast and they were bemoaning that wait times in A&E are up, admittedly nowhere near ours but still up from what they are used to.

There's a worldwide issue that we're reliant on an economic system that has really reached its natural conclusion and nobody knowns where to go from here. Neoliberalism has done its job and the money has flowed to the top to the point there's not really much more left that can be taken from people lower down the chain.

More of the same isn't going to fix things and nobody is suggesting anything that in the grand scheme of things is really that different.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I'm not exactly a fan of Starmer and his inability to read the room is astonishing. But having said that the amount of shit he is getting for not fixing 14 years of damage in little over a year is insane.

Fair enough if you dislike him over a single issue, his inaction over Israel being a big one of course, but where has this idea everything could be quickly sorted come from. In a lot of areas, such as immigration, we're seeing action taken but things take time.

Having said that I'm amazed they didn't have a whole pile of quick and easy wins ready to go. Instead they seem to pick things like WFA which have made them deeply unpopular.

Completely agree I think it’s hysteria

 

[SBT]

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You need to move to a properly authoritarian country mate, ever considered North Korea, I hear it's lovely in Springtime.

The ECHR is back, baby!

 

[PVA]

I'm not exactly a fan of Starmer and his inability to read the room is astonishing. But having said that the amount of shit he is getting for not fixing 14 years of damage in little over a year is insane.

Fair enough if you dislike him over a single issue, his inaction over Israel being a big one of course, but where has this idea everything could be quickly sorted come from. In a lot of areas, such as immigration, we're seeing action taken but things take time.

Having said that I'm amazed they didn't have a whole pile of quick and easy wins ready to go. Instead they seem to pick things like WFA which have made them deeply unpopular.

Good post and bang on.

Have they fucked up on some things? Yes plenty. Have they wasted a lot of political capital they had in the bank? Yes absolutely. But expecting them to have fixed everything a year in us just ridiculous.

Saw a story the other day of a young girl who broke herwg playing football and had to wait 5 hours lying on a cold wet pitch for an ambulance. There were people in the comments blaming the government. Absolute fucking idiots.

Just shows what happens when people get all their news from social media and the algorithms just feed them the same shit over and over.

 

[fatso]

The fact I work my arse off all week and have fuck all to show for it?

The fact im having my pants pulled down everytime I fill my car up?

The fact that im paying more for gas and electric every year for no reason?

The fact when I had an SVT episode of 200BPM out of nowhere I was told there was no ambulances?

The fact that the £800 a month tax i pay is going towards housing undocumented men we know nothing about to be put up in luxury hotels?

The fact that if I need a doctor I cant get one?

The fact that my weekly shop price is ballooning month on month for the same product?

The fact that if I need a copper because ive been mugged or burgled I cant get one but there will be one there if I post an inflammatory tweet?

The fact that the justice system is in absolute disarray?

I could go on if you like?

Believe it or not, some cunts actually think you should be paying MORE tax!

 

[fatso]

Good post and bang on.

Have they fucked up on some things? Yes plenty. Have they wasted a lot of political capital they had in the bank? Yes absolutely. But expecting them to have fixed everything a year in us just ridiculous.

Saw a story the other day of a young girl who broke herwg playing football and had to wait 5 hours lying on a cold wet pitch for an ambulance. There were people in the comments blaming the government. Absolute fucking idiots.

Just shows what happens when people get all their news from social media and the algorithms just feed them the same shit over and over.

They cant fix everything in a year, that's very true.
But showing that they are moving in the right direction would be a start.

Let's be honest, they've had 14 years to come up with some kind of plan, and no one expected things to get worse!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Believe it or not, some cunts actually think you should be paying MORE tax!

Someone needs to pay more not necessarily saddle

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

They cant fix everything in a year, that's very true.
But showing that they are moving in the right direction would be a start.

Let's be honest, they've had 14 years to come up with some kind of plan, and no one expected things to get worse!

What’s worse?

 

[chiefdave]

Believe it or not, some cunts actually think you should be paying MORE tax!

Think you need to distinguish between paying more tax for it to be passed to people who donate to political parties and paying more tax for working services.

I don't particularly want to pay more tax but if I was confident it was being put to good use and having an impact I wouldn't really object. I would have zero confidence that would happen if Reeves announced tomorrow that taxes were going up.

 

[fatso]

What’s worse?

Really????
Have a look around Pete!

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Really????
Have a look around Pete!

I do
Nothing much has changed
I know I’m supposed to think everything is much worse and to get really angry but what specifically

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

I do
Nothing much has changed
I know I’m supposed to think everything is much worse and to get really angry but what specifically

The one thing I would agree with is prices for food increasing but mmmm wonder why

 

[Grendel]

I do
Nothing much has changed
I know I’m supposed to think everything is much worse and to get really angry but what specifically

Unemployment
Job vacancies
Borrowing
Taxation
Inflation
Economic growth

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Unemployment
Job vacancies
Borrowing
Taxation
Inflation
Economic growth

Growth is as good if not better than any of our competitors
Borrowing absolutely
Taxation really?!
Inflation oooo wonder who is responsible for that
So all economic measures i can discuss that

 

[wingy]

The one thing I would agree with is prices for food increasing but mmmm wonder why

Well wasn't the bulk of it down to energy costs,well hasn't that receded,so why has it remained? Wouldn't be a tax would it,and off what.

 

[Nick]

I do
Nothing much has changed
I know I’m supposed to think everything is much worse and to get really angry but what specifically

Surely you can see the difference with things like ni etc and the strain on business?

 

[fatso]

I do
Nothing much has changed
I know I’m supposed to think everything is much worse and to get really angry but what specifically

Well where do you want to start?

How about (just for starters) our pensioners losing their winter fuel allowance because apparently its no longer affordable, but then the government announces a huge increase in the defence budget.

Are bombs and bullets more important than keeping our elderly grandma's warm over winter?
What does that say about our society?

I could go on and on, but ive not wish to bore any fucker more than usual.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Surely you can see the difference with things like ni etc and the strain on business?

Not in the tax office and friends haven’t not been able to get jobs

Well where do you want to start?

How about (just for starters) our pensioners losing their winter fuel allowance because apparently its no longer affordable, but then the government announces a huge increase in the defence budget.

Are bombs and bullets more important than keeping our elderly grandma's warm over winter?
What does that say about our society?

I could go on and on, but ive not wish to bore any fucker more than usual.

The issue with wfa was the figure was too low
Some if not many don’t need the money

 

[fatso]

The issue with wfa was the figure was too low
Some if not many don’t need the money

So why penalise those who absolutely rely on it?

And there's no excuse whatsoever when your buying more bombs with the money, how fucking immoral is that?

 

[djr8369]

Good post and bang on.

Have they fucked up on some things? Yes plenty. Have they wasted a lot of political capital they had in the bank? Yes absolutely. But expecting them to have fixed everything a year in us just ridiculous.

Saw a story the other day of a young girl who broke herwg playing football and had to wait 5 hours lying on a cold wet pitch for an ambulance. There were people in the comments blaming the government. Absolute fucking idiots.

Just shows what happens when people get all their news from social media and the algorithms just feed them the same shit over and over.

People were blaming Labour for everything about a month after the election. Ok there’s a lot of bots and such stirring it up but so many angry people lashing out too.

 

[djr8369]

I see Reform are polling to win the next election. Yes, I know it’s a long way away but regardless what issues people are angry about I don’t know how anyone can put their faith in that despicable cretin. A man who has clearly been sponsored for decades to cause as much disruption and sow as much resentment as he can.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

So why penalise those who absolutely rely on it?

And there's no excuse whatsoever when your buying more bombs with the money, how fucking immoral is that?

Agree

 

[Nick]

Not in the tax office and friends haven’t not been able to get jobs

Wow

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Wow

Do you have people you know who’ve lost theirs and others not able to work?