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Sky Blue Pete

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Obviously yes but it’s bit helpful as these people have been admitted to the country and provided accommodation - they are likely to have done this before - how is that helpful?
What do you mean? All people on boats are guilty of child rape
 

chiefdave

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1000s of undocumented men are entering the country being housed or occupying hotels and raping girls

if that doesn’t anger you and instead trying to justify it then imo you are part of the problem

Here’s some stats. rapes in Uk rising year by year and Afghan have the highest rate

see the correlation?View attachment 44984View attachment 44985
Do you know where the source data is for this as the website listed as the source doesn't seem to have it and it doesn't seem to match any government or cps statistics.

Closet thing I can find is this which is ethnicity not nationality:
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Grendel

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What do you mean? All people on boats are guilty of child rape

Er no. But they are unprocessed. Anyone who in this country has been guilty in the past of child molestation would not be allowed to be in any community - do the same safeguard apply to asylum seekers?
 

Grendel

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What do you mean? All people on boats are guilty of child rape

I do also Pete find this a bit self righteous and patronising.

I’ve frequently said I’m not bothered by migration as it doesn’t bother me

Like everyone if you don’t have experience of issues why would it.

My youngest daughter now won’t walk past the hotel with the dog as people have jeered and made blatant sexual references to her from there.

I went with said dog and some drunken idiot said he would eat my dog

She actually isn’t overly intimidated but I think it’s probably best she takes a different route. A few weeks ago some guy was outside the shop asking for cash - then he became abusive as he wasn’t getting very much sympathy

Men are visiting the hotel for sex. It’s happening and no one cares.

I have lived here for the first 20 years of my life and the last 20 years

There has never been a single issue until migrants were accessing the hotels.

Why are you so self righteous- would you like your daughter to have someone ask to see her pussy when she’s walking the dog?
 

PVA

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Do you know where the source data is for this as the website listed as the source doesn't seem to have it and it doesn't seem to match any government or cps statistics.

Closet thing I can find is this which is ethnicity not nationality:
View attachment 44987

It doesn't add up at all.

The source of that graph says 77 Afghans were convicted of sexual offences then immediately shows that chart which says Afghans are convicted at a rate of 59.3 per 10000.

To get a rate that high the Afghan population in the UK would have to be circa 13k, when it's closer to 100k.
 

ccfc922

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I do also Pete find this a bit self righteous and patronising.

I’ve frequently said I’m not bothered by migration as it doesn’t bother me

Like everyone if you don’t have experience of issues why would it.

My youngest daughter now won’t walk past the hotel with the dog as people have jeered and made blatant sexual references to her from there.

I went with said dog and some drunken idiot said he would eat my dog

She actually isn’t overly intimidated but I think it’s probably best she takes a different route. A few weeks ago some guy was outside the shop asking for cash - then he became abusive as he wasn’t getting very much sympathy

Men are visiting the hotel for sex. It’s happening and no one cares.

I have lived here for the first 20 years of my life and the last 20 years

There has never been a single issue until migrants were accessing the hotels.

Why are you so self righteous- would you like your daughter to have someone ask to see her pussy when she’s walking the dog?

That never has ever happened you bigot!!

Everyone of them just wants a better life!!!
 

Grendel

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That never has ever happened you bigot!!

Everyone of them just wants a better life!!!

Not in the one hotel it doesn’t - which PVA refuses to name

How interesting
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Er no. But they are unprocessed. Anyone who in this country has been guilty in the past of child molestation would not be allowed to be in any community - do the same safeguard apply to asylum seekers?
I don’t know but are you saying that you think convicted sex offenders are coming to the uk? And the evidence is sexual crime may have increased??

I’m just trying to understand

I’m sorry to have annoyed you
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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1000s of undocumented men are entering the country being housed or occupying hotels and raping girls

if that doesn’t anger you and instead trying to justify it then imo you are part of the problem

Here’s some stats. rapes in Uk rising year by year and Afghan have the highest rate

see the correlation?View attachment 44984View attachment 44985
So the highest rate is 59.3/10,000. Or 0.6%. And that's for sexual assault, not child rape.

While that's still utterly abhorrent and as I said something that for me would result in instant deportation, I wouldn't call 0.6% "many of these blokes have raped young girls".

That's just blatantly untrue, sensationalism and hate speech.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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you really that thick?

it’s illegal to enter a country without documents

the same analogy applies

you wouldn’t want someone you didn’t know enter your house would you? Especially if you have kids etc..

this is no different. we shouldn’t allow ANYONE in this country unless documented
Entering a country without documents is an illegal ACT. It is not an illegal PERSON.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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I do also Pete find this a bit self righteous and patronising.

I’ve frequently said I’m not bothered by migration as it doesn’t bother me

Like everyone if you don’t have experience of issues why would it.

My youngest daughter now won’t walk past the hotel with the dog as people have jeered and made blatant sexual references to her from there.

I went with said dog and some drunken idiot said he would eat my dog

She actually isn’t overly intimidated but I think it’s probably best she takes a different route. A few weeks ago some guy was outside the shop asking for cash - then he became abusive as he wasn’t getting very much sympathy

Men are visiting the hotel for sex. It’s happening and no one cares.

I have lived here for the first 20 years of my life and the last 20 years

There has never been a single issue until migrants were accessing the hotels.

Why are you so self righteous- would you like your daughter to have someone ask to see her pussy when she’s walking the dog?
Men are visiting the hotel to have sex with the male migrants?
Never a single issue? Who are all the people in the prisons guilty of child rape prior to 2016?

again I don’t think I’m self righteous and I’ve given evidence against an Iraqi man that sexually assaulted my daughter just before covid so don’t assume you know what my experiences are? Of course it wouldn’t be good to have someone ask to see her pussy but that’s no different if it’s an immigrant from her sixth form colleagues back in the day
 

Grendel

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Men are visiting the hotel to have sex with the male migrants?
Never a single issue? Who are all the people in the prisons guilty of child rape prior to 2016?

again I don’t think I’m self righteous and I’ve given evidence against an Iraqi man that sexually assaulted my daughter just before covid so don’t assume you know what my experiences are? Of course it wouldn’t be good to have someone ask to see her pussy but that’s no different if it’s an immigrant from her sixth form colleagues back in the day

Unbelievable - I give up
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Sky Blue Pete

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clearly you are because you think it’s ok having all these undocumented men coming in and committing crime to our kids

seriously when will enough be enough for you? genuine question
When you and others who want to blame immigration for everything can come up with a solution that doesn’t label anyone who isn’t English as a potential sexual offender and that we just need to stop the boats and all our problems will go away
 

GIMOC

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When you and others who want to blame immigration for everything can come up with a solution that doesn’t label anyone who isn’t English as a potential sexual offender and that we just need to stop the boats and all our problems will go away

what are you on about?

Every crime committed by an illegal immigrant could have been stopped if these scumbags were sent back as soon as they arrived

they have no documents so means no right to be here

Stats show how bad rape is now in the country compared to 20 years ago

same time as immigration in this country has shot up

simple solution. you come here illegally you get sent home. simple
 

Sky Blue Pete

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what are you on about?

Every crime committed by an illegal immigrant could have been stopped if these scumbags were sent back as soon as they arrived

they have no documents so means no right to be here

Stats show how bad rape is now in the country compared to 20 years ago

same time as immigration in this country has shot up

simple solution. you come here illegally you get sent home. simple
Where’s home gimoc? Hence the problem
I’m sure you have the stats to show that rape has gone up over 20 years and the perpetrators are illegal immigrants

There’s an issue here that needs resolving but it’s not easy
 

GIMOC

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Where’s home gimoc? Hence the problem
I’m sure you have the stats to show that rape has gone up over 20 years and the perpetrators are illegal immigrants

There’s an issue here that needs resolving but it’s not easy
just in case you missed it
Do you want to discuss boring politics?

yes it is easy. You send them back to the last country they came from

If you come via illegal channels and have no documents then you get returned immediately
 

GIMOC

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You can go on a tourist visa though, overstay and then start working in the black jobs market. Which is still how the vast majority of illegals become illegals in literally every country in the world. Including ours.

so you’ve got one person saying you can just claim asylum anywhere which was lies

vast majority of illegal immigrants don’t come here via a visa because you don’t need one

they come by boats and then get houses in hotels

as for the black market. that’s why I don’t use any delivery company anymore
 

wingy

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You could go on a rubber dingy I’m sure
That would be novel,in fact I don't know why this has never occurred to me before, just do the opposite and get a load of British people going the other way.
All those people that think this is a no hope nation, which is probably many, invade France and live the life ol, drinking wine which used to be as cheap as water,no need for a parable there!
 

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