Do you want to discuss boring politics? (94 Viewers)
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Nick
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Well yeah because this is the current awful situation in the news.
Something else will eventually take over the news space and you will all forget and move onto that.
Not sure what your screenshot was meant to prove. People are spending their time looking for footage, videos and news articles about it.
There are multiple wars going on around the world, Ukraine isn't as fashionable nowadays and sudan and Yemen arent in the charts.
Nick
Administrator
Genuinely though, why look for footage? There have been people dying in awful circumstances all of my life and no doubt the same for everybody else.
Yeah there's the internet now but why spend time looking for it and watching it if it is going to impact your day?
fernandopartridge
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More people were killed in terror attacks on the UK mainland in the 10 years following the Terrorism Act than the preceding 10 years.
I don't know why somebody as facile as you comes on to this thread. You are somebody who has said before "they're all the same" aren't you?It is funny somebody is a fence sitter because they won't say what you want them to
Why do you post about various kids who have been neglected and abused to death by their parents? There are plenty of other kids dying in the world, why do you only post about them?
mmttww
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that you might want to rethink referring to kids being starved to death by a country that we support and arm as 'fashionable'.
You're dismissive of people being angry or giving a sh*t about this which is pretty weird for a start, but the hypocrisy of it is just grim.
Like someone pointed out, you've no issue posting bits from the same news cycle when it's something you want to talk about.
and the 'why aren't you talking about every awful thing at once at the same volume' argument to criticise others is pathetic.
Does any of it make what's happening right now in Gaza and Palestine less terrible or less worthy of being talked about? FFS.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Better for people to care about something than nothing. It might seem weird to you and that’s fine, but it also seems understandable that others are affected by human suffering, especially one that’s disproportionately hitting children.
shmmeee
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You appear to be under the impression I agree with the Terrorism Act. As opposed to understanding that it is law.
Sadly came across this this morning, it’s a bit old now, what’s happening in NI makes me genuinely ashamed to be British and maybe it’s my bubble but seems totally ignored. I never thought we were the types to be running racist pogroms. But: just property damage right. No people even close to hurt. Probably less damage in terms of value than PA did.
Why is this not justifiable direct action? If you asked the people responsible they would view their cause as just and existential with full certainty.
Edit: wrong link hang on. Sadly multiple places set on fire
Edit edit: seems I was misinformed the arson was in Ireland not part of the recent NI stuff, still:
Coolock: Fire at site earmarked for asylum seekers - BBC News
Dublin Fire Brigade is at the former Crown Paints factory on the Malahide Road in the city.
www.bbc.co.uk
Why is this not justifiable direct action? If you asked the people responsible they would view their cause as just and existential with full certainty.
Nuskyblue
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The limit is 2hr per app isn't it, if so it's pointless.
TikToc
Snapchat
Telegram
There is 12 hours there. The kids won't even have to find a way around it!
chiefdave
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How would it even work, per device, per app, per account? what if its a family ipad, does it lock up when Dad wants to check twitter if the kids have been on it for 2 hours?
Been a long time since I worked on any projects that involved child protection but when I did one of the first things parents were told, particular parents of girls, is that they will 100% have more than one account on each app, the one you know about and monitor and at least one that you don't know about. Trying to hammer home to parents who would always be 'my daughter isn't like that' that they are all doing it, secret accounts that only their mates know about.
I just don't see any practical way this works without it ending up like what they've forced upon reddit. They've bought in age verification checks and now there's loads of subreddits, that are in no way adult content, that people can't access without supplying a copy of their driving license or passport. Absolute fucking mess.
Sky Blue Pete
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All on starmer I’m sureYou appear to be under the impression I agree with the Terrorism Act. As opposed to understanding that it is law.
Sadly came across this this morning, it’s a bit old now, what’s happening in NI makes me genuinely ashamed to be British and maybe it’s my bubble but seems totally ignored. I never thought we were the types to be running racist pogroms. But: just property damage right. No people even close to hurt. Probably less damage in terms of value than PA did.
Why is this not justifiable direct action? If you asked the people responsible they would view their cause as just and existential with full certainty.
Edit: wrong link hang on. Sadly multiple places set on fire
Edit edit: seems I was misinformed the arson was in Ireland not part of the recent NI stuff, still:
Coolock: Fire at site earmarked for asylum seekers - BBC News
Dublin Fire Brigade is at the former Crown Paints factory on the Malahide Road in the city.
Why is this not justifiable direct action? If you asked the people responsible they would view their cause as just and existential with full certainty.
Sky Blue Pete
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Worth trying though no?
Brighton Sky Blue
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Or alternatively, just get parents to have the common sense to confiscate devices when they see fit
fernandopartridge
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Burning down a building creates genuine and known risk to life.You appear to be under the impression I agree with the Terrorism Act. As opposed to understanding that it is law.
Sadly came across this this morning, it’s a bit old now, what’s happening in NI makes me genuinely ashamed to be British and maybe it’s my bubble but seems totally ignored. I never thought we were the types to be running racist pogroms. But: just property damage right. No people even close to hurt. Probably less damage in terms of value than PA did.
Why is this not justifiable direct action? If you asked the people responsible they would view their cause as just and existential with full certainty.
Edit: wrong link hang on. Sadly multiple places set on fire
Edit edit: seems I was misinformed the arson was in Ireland not part of the recent NI stuff, still:
Coolock: Fire at site earmarked for asylum seekers - BBC News
Dublin Fire Brigade is at the former Crown Paints factory on the Malahide Road in the city.
Why is this not justifiable direct action? If you asked the people responsible they would view their cause as just and existential with full certainty.
mmttww
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chiefdave
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Don't go looking for footage, its in the news. I like to try and keep on top of what is happening in the world, as I'm sure many people do. Not like I'm searching stuff out or going to weird and wonderful twitter and YouTube account.
I think it resonates with a lot of people because Israel is seen as a fairly westernised country. They're members of UEFA, compete in Eurovision etc. Rightly or wrongly that causes a different reaction to what is happening somewhere like Myanmar.
When you add in the role the UK is playing in supporting Israel and the refusal of our government to take any action against the invading country, in stark contrast to the situation in Ukraine, and the impression that the government is also clamping down on any dissenting voices, it all adds up to keep it in the spotlight.
Also think as many horrific things as there are happening around the world there's not many instances where the entire population of a country is to all intents and purposes forced to remain in that country while systematically being bombed, shot dead and starved. There was a report from a hospital this week where the doctors were talking about how every day the people coming in had been shot in different places, basically the IDF playing a game where they pick a different body part to target everyday. When you hear things like that on the news most people would be outraged and find it hard to even digest what they are hearing.
chiefdave
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Presume you're talking about the horrific targeting of refuges with people setting fire to homes and hotels. Not sure I'd really class that purely as properly damage, or direct action, to me you're in the area of attempted murder.You appear to be under the impression I agree with the Terrorism Act. As opposed to understanding that it is law.
Sadly came across this this morning, it’s a bit old now, what’s happening in NI makes me genuinely ashamed to be British and maybe it’s my bubble but seems totally ignored. I never thought we were the types to be running racist pogroms. But: just property damage right. No people even close to hurt. Probably less damage in terms of value than PA did.
Why is this not justifiable direct action? If you asked the people responsible they would view their cause as just and existential with full certainty.
Edit: wrong link hang on. Sadly multiple places set on fire
Edit edit: seems I was misinformed the arson was in Ireland not part of the recent NI stuff, still:
Coolock: Fire at site earmarked for asylum seekers - BBC News
Dublin Fire Brigade is at the former Crown Paints factory on the Malahide Road in the city.
Why is this not justifiable direct action? If you asked the people responsible they would view their cause as just and existential with full certainty.
Interestingly I've seen it reported that the police are reluctant to get involved, unless it reaches a point where they have no other option, because those undertaking the violence are backed by the UDA and UVF. They are of course both proscribed groups.
mmttww
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This. Great post, makes a lot of great points.
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Ian1779
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To be fair Labour have already hoovered up 40 versions of ‘Friends of Israel’
Sky Blue Pete
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Worth trying though no?
chiefdave
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Think by the time you're trying to enforce 2 hour limits on apps you've lost the battle.
Maybe start with working on not having parents view screens as substitute babysitters. Everywhere you go now there's surprisingly young kids with some sort of device in their hand staring at a screen.
mmttww
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chiefdave
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Thoughts on the online age verification checks that have come in to today which according to some news reports this morning now mean the UK trails only to the likes of China in terms of internet censorship.
I forgot it was happening until I tried to check bluesky this morning and got blocked unless I provide ID to some random company in some random country. That's despite that having nothing you could remotely class as needing age blocks (just following news & politics accounts to keep it separate from twitter).
So made a quick switch to reddit which is where I just follow music & entertainment stuff and found my feed full of random shit. Going directly to many of the subreddits I am in gave the same blocked from the UK message unless you'll send your ID to another random company.
The responses from someone who campaigned for this in the article below show just how clueless they are. The idea that we're now a few years away from eradicating porn in the UK is lunacy. Kids are light years ahead on this stuff. They'll all have VPNs and be using apps we've never even heard of to share content, and sourcing that content from increasily dodgy parts of the web that don't give two shits about age verification.
www.bbc.co.uk
How long before there's a massive data leak from one of this, completely unregulated, age verification sites?
I forgot it was happening until I tried to check bluesky this morning and got blocked unless I provide ID to some random company in some random country. That's despite that having nothing you could remotely class as needing age blocks (just following news & politics accounts to keep it separate from twitter).
So made a quick switch to reddit which is where I just follow music & entertainment stuff and found my feed full of random shit. Going directly to many of the subreddits I am in gave the same blocked from the UK message unless you'll send your ID to another random company.
The responses from someone who campaigned for this in the article below show just how clueless they are. The idea that we're now a few years away from eradicating porn in the UK is lunacy. Kids are light years ahead on this stuff. They'll all have VPNs and be using apps we've never even heard of to share content, and sourcing that content from increasily dodgy parts of the web that don't give two shits about age verification.
The debate: Will the new rules for pornography sites do more harm than good? - BBC News
Age-verification checks on adult websites are introduced on 25 July - but could they lead to even darker consequences?
How long before there's a massive data leak from one of this, completely unregulated, age verification sites?
tisza
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Think we're treading a very fine line atm (like many other "democracies"). Restricting internet usage (whether it's age checks, amount of online time) is still has a feel that there's too much personal information being stored by tech companies, websites or govt.I'm sure AI will find a way to get kids around age verification.Thoughts on the online age verification checks that have come in to today which according to some news reports this morning now mean the UK trails only to the likes of China in terms of internet censorship.
I forgot it was happening until I tried to check bluesky this morning and got blocked unless I provide ID to some random company in some random country. That's despite that having nothing you could remotely class as needing age blocks (just following news & politics accounts to keep it separate from twitter).
So made a quick switch to reddit which is where I just follow music & entertainment stuff and found my feed full of random shit. Going directly to many of the subreddits I am in gave the same blocked from the UK message unless you'll send your ID to another random company.
The responses from someone who campaigned for this in the article below show just how clueless they are. The idea that we're now a few years away from eradicating porn in the UK is lunacy. Kids are light years ahead on this stuff. They'll all have VPNs and be using apps we've never even heard of to share content, and sourcing that content from increasily dodgy parts of the web that don't give two shits about age verification.
The debate: Will the new rules for pornography sites do more harm than good? - BBC News
Age-verification checks on adult websites are introduced on 25 July - but could they lead to even darker consequences?
How long before there's a massive data leak from one of this, completely unregulated, age verification sites?
chiefdave
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twitter is already full of stories of people using AI apps to bypass the visual age checks.
seems to be another situation where the powers that be have been in such a rush to do something and get the credit that they've ignored all the experts telling them what they have planned at best just plain won't work and at worst will push the people its supposed to protect to much darker unregulated corners of the internet.
tisza
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Make a similar case for free speech.
Sick Boy
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Indeed...I've already been told to stay in my lane on here and only comment on my local area.
SkyBlueDom26
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She’ll be so missed with everything she’s done for the city, not
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
If it can be commoditised it will. All that hosted data is going to be held hostage over time. Ticking time bomb.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
The emergence of AI will speed it up - a lot more content will end up being paywalls/subscription-based.
SkyBlueDom26
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Think they should put you in charge lad, make the step up from super moderator
Sick Boy
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Thanks, mate.
SkyBlueDom26
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Honestly it’s a great step up for you. Unless you’d want to be super super moderator