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Ian1779

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  • Dec 14, 2023
  • #32,656
skybluetony176 said:
I think Benton was a schoolteacher too before he grifted into far right politics.
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He realised there’s no money in education so his grifting was going nowhere.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 14, 2023
  • #32,657
Piece on Beeb just now, people extending the repayment mortgages by ten to fifteen years,is that a a broker explaining the hardship people are feeling or someone attempting to open it up, trying to make it seem normal and expected to maintain a 40 yr term
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,658

The great immigration miscalculation

An all-out assault on overseas arrivals is not the vote-winner it once was
www.ft.com

Really interesting article on who really cares about immigration in the UK, and the futility of the Tories making it their centrepiece policy.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,659
wingy said:
Piece on Beeb just now, people extending the repayment mortgages by ten to fifteen years,is that a a broker explaining the hardship people are feeling or someone attempting to open it up, trying to make it seem normal and expected to maintain a 40 yr term
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I suppose it’s better than the alternative which is repossessions. You’d hope that if unemployment stays relatively low so people don’t lose their jobs, as rates drop, terms can be reduced again. The 10 year, which a lot of mortgage companies use as barometer for rates is now around 3.75% after dropping significantly recently.

Unfortunately, as we all know,,there’s a massive housing shortage and as I’ve probably said a million times a combo of rapid population growth (migration and people living longer) and inadequate planning by successive governments has meant ever increasing house prices - they can only probably drop significantly if unemployment shoots up which nobody wants. At least one benefit is less chance of negative equity for homeowners…doesn’t help the poor kids trying to get on the ladder though
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,660
wingy said:
Piece on Beeb just now, people extending the repayment mortgages by ten to fifteen years,is that a a broker explaining the hardship people are feeling or someone attempting to open it up, trying to make it seem normal and expected to maintain a 40 yr term
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Saw a suggestion recently that even longer terms should be allowed and that it passes to your kids if you die before repaying it!

Suspect what will happen now is if and when rates drop they’ll allow people to borrow more over a longer term and we will have another problem to deal with down the line
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,661
Is Piers Morgan in a spot of bother now re: phone hacking? From what I can remember he’s consistently denied ever even knowing about it, including at least once while under oath.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,662
SBT said:
Is Piers Morgan in a spot of bother now re: phone hacking? From what I can remember he’s consistently denied ever even knowing about it, including at least once while under oath.
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Whats happened?
 
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Macca1987

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,663
Judge found in favour of Harry in 15 of his 33 counts, got awarded £100 odd grand, Judge lashed into Mirror, Sunday Mirror and the People and had a go at the top bods on each, said they would have known, that included Morgan
 
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JAM See

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,664
Macca1987 said:
Judge found in favour of Harry in 15 of his 33 counts, got awarded £100 odd grand, Judge lashed into Mirror, Sunday Mirror and the People and had a go at the top bods on each, said they would have known, that included Morgan
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It's easy. The COVID inquiry has shown.
Just say, "I don't recall" over and over again.
Simples.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,665
Macca1987 said:
Judge found in favour of Harry in 15 of his 33 counts, got awarded £100 odd grand, Judge lashed into Mirror, Sunday Mirror and the People and had a go at the top bods on each, said they would have known, that included Morgan
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The Mirror group has now accepted the judgment and responsibility for hacking.

I don’t think Harry’s lawyers are finished either, they’re going after everyone in turn. Think the Murdoch group is next and their evidence to the Leveson inquiry has already been called into question, especially from one of the sons, want to say James.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,666
JAM See said:
It's easy. The COVID inquiry has shown.
Just say, "I don't recall" over and over again.
Simples.
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Don’t think that will help them. It’s evidence they’ve already given under oath to the Leverson inquiry that now being called into question. If criminal proceedings are put to them in court they’ll have to prove they didn’t lie, they’re going to have to remember something to do that otherwise they’ll be doing an Andy Coulson. Even getting a job with the Tories couldn’t stop him going to prison.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,667
PVA said:
Hopefully Gullis is next


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How did that eejit qualify as a teacher?

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skybluetony176

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,668
Morgan comes out swinging

 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,669
skybluetony176 said:
The Mirror group has now accepted the judgment and responsibility for hacking.

I don’t think Harry’s lawyers are finished either, they’re going after everyone in turn. Think the Murdoch group is next and their evidence to the Leveson inquiry has already been called into question, especially from one of the sons, want to say James.
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Never thought I’d be cheering Harry on but here we are.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,670
This does explain Morgan’s weird obsession with Harry and Meghan (as well as her ghosting him)
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,671
This is disgraceful


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shmmeee

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,672
fernandopartridge said:
This is disgraceful


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Does someone need to press charges for this sort of thing or can the police divot off their own back?
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,673
fernandopartridge said:
This is disgraceful


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Fair chance one of the arresting officers is currently under investigation for a far more serious crime given what's come out about the MET in recent times.
This country is fucked.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,674
Saw similar arrests for the apparent crime of anti monarchy protests last year.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,675
fernandopartridge said:
This is disgraceful


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Reminds me a bit of this farce in terms of overreaction.

Stansted 15 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Whether you agree with the cause of the methods, the way to control is not to attempt to suppress.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 15, 2023
  • #32,676
If Starmer has got an ounce of political nous he’ll come out against their arrest.

Sadly I’m not sure he has.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 16, 2023
  • #32,677
Tory Britain

 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 16, 2023
  • #32,678
fernandopartridge said:
This is disgraceful


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Also thought that Alex chalke had encouraged a move away from sentences of less than 12 months
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 17, 2023
  • #32,679
Won’t someone spare a thought for Michelle Mone, the real victim in the PPE crisis. Not sure who advised her to do the media rounds playing the victim but I suspect that it was the same people who advised prince Andrew to do the same.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 17, 2023
  • #32,680
skybluetony176 said:
Won’t someone spare a thought for Michelle Mone, the real victim in the PPE crisis. Not sure who advised her to do the media rounds playing the victim but I suspect that it was the same people who advised prince Andrew to do the same.
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Her and her fella are vermin

 
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chiefdave

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  • Dec 17, 2023
  • #32,681
skybluetony176 said:
Won’t someone spare a thought for Michelle Mone, the real victim in the PPE crisis. Not sure who advised her to do the media rounds playing the victim but I suspect that it was the same people who advised prince Andrew to do the same.
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It was absolutely extraordinary wasn't it? Admitted she had lied for years denying she would benefit while also claiming she declared it but not to the right people but that's definitely not her fault. Her husband not being listed on any company documents but being the ultimate beneficiary presumably not his fault either.

It was all about how bad it's been for her and how we should feel sorry for her while she's living a life of luxury with our money.
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 17, 2023
  • #32,682
chiefdave said:
It was absolutely extraordinary wasn't it? Admitted she had lied for years denying she would benefit while also claiming she declared it but not to the right people but that's definitely not her fault. Her husband not being listed on any company documents but being the ultimate beneficiary presumably not his fault either.

It was all about how bad it's been for her and how we should feel sorry for her while she's living a life of luxury with our money.
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It was a catastrophic interview and won’t help her in the ongoing investigations

Technically she’s correct that she hasn’t benefited but it’s likely she - and certainly her family - will in the future and it’s obvious she should have declared her interest
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 17, 2023
  • #32,683
clint van damme said:
Her and her fella are vermin

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Scumbags. Hope they get sent down and/or all the cash returned. Still can’t believe contracts given to them or anyone else weren’t fully refundable if the items were inadequate/unusable
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 17, 2023
  • #32,684
CCFCSteve said:
Scumbags. Hope they get sent down and/or all the cash returned. Still can’t believe contracts given to them or anyone else weren’t fully refundable if the items were inadequate/unusable
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I'd bet a large sum of money nothing happens and she keeps her peerage.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 17, 2023
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She lied because she's didn't want press intrusion... Which never happens in a high profile case when you lie!
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,686
Hopefully only 5 months left of these wankers in charge. And hopefully not to return for a very long time.


 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,687
PVA said:
Hopefully only 5 months left of these wankers in charge. And hopefully not to return for a very long time.


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May or October according to certain outlets that attended drinks at No.10 last night. He’s apparently ruled out Jan 2025 which is the latest he can call it. I’m not convinced he’ll make it past the end January 2024 and get to call a GE. Problem the Tories have if they get rid of him in the new year is getting 2 sensible candidates to a member’s vote. Are there any sensible Tories left? Sunak was probably the most sensible they can muster so it will end up being Suella vs someone like Cleverly or Hunt and the nutter membership who put Truss in number 10 will have no qualms putting in Braverman and I dare say she’ll want to wait until January 2025. Best hope for the country looks like Sunak holding on to the next GE and the sooner that GE comes the better for the country. Taxi for the Tories.
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,688
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,689
chiefdave said:
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Am I allowed to ask the context? Sunak or Hancock?
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 19, 2023
  • #32,690
So tone deaf

 
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