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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (18 Viewers)

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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #32,586
fernandopartridge said:
NHS England makes available pots of funding that other NHS Trusts or ICBs have to bid for for specific tech, instead of rolling it into funding allocations to providers it creates this burden which then necessarily ends up with business consultants etc involved and different trusts or systems end up losing. Sort these structural design faults out.

See here for an example of how the NHS is still trying to get the basic infrastructure right to support all this wonderful tech never mind the people and processes.

Future Connectivity - NHS England Digital

Ensuring health and care organisations have the right underlying network infrastructure, broadband connectivity and wireless technology in place to support the growing demand for bandwidth and reliable connectivity, especially in locations which are heard to reach.
digital.nhs.uk

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Not just investment in tech (significant investment in equipment is also required) but certainly there are surely tech improvements and benefits to be had. I’ve had the misfortune of being in A&E a couple of times in recent years. No clarity in terms of what’s happening, likely space in queue, who’s responsible for me etc…I ended up tracking someone down once (after I’d been seen by nurse and doc and put in a random room) and the person had three names inc mine on a scrap of paper. Same visit my bloods were lost (happened twice in three visits). I could point out various other areas where processes are clunky and wasteful as well as making things harder for the patient. That’s just from some personal experiences for me and close family.

Did you read the article out of interest ? I personally think it’s not only wise, but essential, we look at how things are done elsewhere and where we can improve.

Ps obviously I agree that if there’s issues with allocations/funding structures these need sorting. It sounds a mess
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #32,587
Yeah the love access to your data is what sold me. Would have made a world of difference when I was in hospital myself, and when my daughter was, plus managing the kids health as a separated family. Would be huge.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #32,588
shmmeee said:
Yeah the love access to your data is what sold me. Would have made a world of difference when I was in hospital myself, and when my daughter was, plus managing the kids health as a separated family. Would be huge.
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The thing is there isn't one place where your data resides. You'll have a GP paper record, a GP electronic record, records at any hospital you've used, records at any community provider you've used. There isn't any unity of this information. There is no mandatory data sharing between those organisations and the suppliers of the various electronic patient records gatekeep the data stored in them to an extent.

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shmmeee

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #32,589
fernandopartridge said:
The thing is there isn't one place where your data resides. You'll have a GP paper record, a GP electronic record, records at any hospital you've used, records at any community provider you've used. There isn't any unity of this information. There is no mandatory data sharing between those organisations and the suppliers of the various electronic patient records gatekeep the data stored in them to an extent.

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On a wide scale sure. But are you telling me when my daughter was in hospital for brain surgery the information wasn’t in the hospital system?

I’d literally have to wait for “the rounds” to find out basic info like what meds she’d had or what the treatment plan was. The time wasted just grabbing staff was ridiculous. It should all have been available there and then.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #32,590
fernandopartridge said:
The thing is there isn't one place where your data resides. You'll have a GP paper record, a GP electronic record, records at any hospital you've used, records at any community provider you've used. There isn't any unity of this information. There is no mandatory data sharing between those organisations and the suppliers of the various electronic patient records gatekeep the data stored in them to an extent.
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Yeah it's a bloody nightmare when they don't talk to one another - every month I get a letter threatening to sue me because I don't have a prepayment prescription... which I do, but for some reason the systems don't tell one another I've changed address and, to add to it, the humans in control seem incapable of changing it just atm!

My Dad will blame Wilson and Benn for going ICL (and consequently Fujitsu as successor) rather than IBM right at the beginning...
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #32,591
Every time someone tried to join things up the data weirdos get involved and grind everything to a halt. Fucking “systems don’t talk to each other” write a bloody connector then.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #32,592
shmmeee said:
On a wide scale sure. But are you telling me when my daughter was in hospital for brain surgery the information wasn’t in the hospital system?

I’d literally have to wait for “the rounds” to find out basic info like what meds she’d had or what the treatment plan was. The time wasted just grabbing staff was ridiculous. It should all have been available there and then.
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Possibly, even when hospitals implement an EPR it doesn't mean to say they digitise all the legacy records. I don't disagree at all just to recognise that it's just nowhere near as simple as implied by people like Wesley.

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shmmeee

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #32,593
fernandopartridge said:
Possibly, even when hospitals implement an EPR it doesn't mean to say they digitise all the legacy records. I don't disagree at all just to recognise that it's just nowhere near as simple as implied by people like Wesley.

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I mean there not easy and there’s spending twenty years and getting literally nowhere.

If it were me I’d just have a cut off, digitise as needed prioritising complex outpatients, and everything after that date is single system digital only. And I’d get a major tech company like MS or Google or Amazon to handle the new system if we aren’t willing to build our own talent, and not fucking Capita or whoever who couldn’t develop their way out of a paper bag.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #32,594
Sunak went full Colonel Oliver North today. Like Boris he’s decided to use the I’m an idiot line of defence.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #32,595
Genuinely, if Rishi can’t remember all that, is he medically fit to lead the country?

If it was Biden people would be screaming dementia and 25th amendment at him. If only we had something similar.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #32,596
shmmeee said:
Genuinely, if Rishi can’t remember all that, is he medically fit to lead the country?

If it was Biden people would be screaming dementia and 25th amendment at him. If only we had something similar.
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This isn't ideal for Labour coming in, trust in politics must be at an all time low. It's funny that the Tories talk about the sanctity of parliament but they continually bring it into grave disrepute.

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chiefdave

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #32,597
Why did nobody point out that you can change phones 100 times and your WhatsApp messages will still be there.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #32,598
skybluetony176 said:
Sunak went full Colonel Oliver North today. Like Boris he’s decided to use the I’m an idiot line of defence.
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I think it says a lot when the people running our country have the choice between admitting they're either totally fucking incompetent or painfully thick as their line of defence.
 
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clint van damme

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #32,599
chiefdave said:
Why did nobody point out that you can change phones 100 times and your WhatsApp messages will still be there.
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Didn't he try to go to court to prevent having to hand them over or have I got that wrong?

Strange action to take over something you've lost if true.
 

chiefdave

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #32,600
clint van damme said:
Didn't he try to go to court to prevent having to hand them over or have I got that wrong?

Strange action to take over something you've lost if true.
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Doesn't say much for the abilities of GCHQ if they can't get a few messages
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 11, 2023
  • #32,601
chiefdave said:
Doesn't say much for the abilities of GCHQ if they can't get a few messages
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Why do you think they go mental every time someone introduced end to end encrypted messaging, like so:


No agency anywhere has cracked it. Which is why dodgy politicians use it.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Dec 12, 2023
  • #32,602
chiefdave said:
Why did nobody point out that you can change phones 100 times and your WhatsApp messages will still be there.
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Not on iPhone, unless it’s been backed up.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 12, 2023
  • #32,603
Sick Boy said:
Not on iPhone, unless it’s been backed up.
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Very little chance it wasn’t backed up though. As has been said no government business should’ve been carried out on what’s app in the first place. Get in contact with people to arrange meetings/calls but that’s it

ps as I’ve said before my gut feel is Sunak is hiding personal stuff rather than covid related messages. Edit - but in that case he should’ve been all over the covid detail
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Dec 12, 2023
  • #32,604
shmmeee said:
Genuinely, if Rishi can’t remember all that, is he medically fit to lead the country?

If it was Biden people would be screaming dementia and 25th amendment at him. If only we had something similar.
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To be fair Biden can barely remember what happened this morning let alone three years ago. That’s no defence by the way, just not a suitable comparison !
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 12, 2023
  • #32,605
Could have put this in the Covid thread but it’s more of a polling story tbh. This is a survey about implementing Covid restrictions this month



28% of 25-40 year-olds in support of a full lockdown
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 12, 2023
  • #32,606
That really is bizarre. I think the threat of fascism was underplayed by someone on here recently but it does feel like a sizeable chunk of the population would happily work for the modern gestapo.

What have people got against nightclubs?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 12, 2023
  • #32,607
fernandopartridge said:
What have people got against nightclubs?
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Overpriced beer, horrible smell half the time, and overflowing toilets covered in shit.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 12, 2023
  • #32,608
CCFCSteve said:
To be fair Biden can barely remember what happened this morning let alone three years ago. That’s no defence by the way, just not a suitable comparison !
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Seriousky though, how is it OK for a PM just to claim they don’t remember anything like a bad mob boss in court and we just go “oh OK then”. He’s shown poor security at best and outright contempt for the law at worst.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 12, 2023
  • #32,609
shmmeee said:
Seriousky though, how is it OK for a PM just to claim they don’t remember anything like a bad mob boss in court and we just go “oh OK then”. He’s shown poor security at best and outright contempt for the law at worst.
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Damn straight
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 12, 2023
  • #32,610
Deleted member 5849 said:
Overpriced beer, horrible smell half the time, and overflowing toilets covered in shit.
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The CBS Arena?
 

clint van damme

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  • Dec 12, 2023
  • #32,611
SBT said:
Could have put this in the Covid thread but it’s more of a polling story tbh. This is a survey about implementing Covid restrictions this month

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28% of 25-40 year-olds in support of a full lockdown
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Why has this even been asked? I don't get it.
 

Ian1779

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  • Dec 12, 2023
  • #32,612
clint van damme said:
Why has this even been asked? I don't get it.
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Probably secretly commissioned by the Mail/Express so that they can knock out a years worth of ‘woke’ based headlines, and shitty opinion pieces by such visionaries as Rod Liddell and Sarah Vine.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Dec 12, 2023
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shmmeee

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  • Dec 12, 2023
  • #32,614
Made me chuckle

 
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Deleted member 9744

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  • Dec 12, 2023
  • #32,615
fernandopartridge said:
That really is bizarre. I think the threat of fascism was underplayed by someone on here recently but it does feel like a sizeable chunk of the population would happily work for the modern gestapo.

What have people got against nightclubs?
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What I find bizarre is that with what is currently happening in this country you use this to illustrate fascism.
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 12, 2023
  • #32,616
fernandopartridge said:
That really is bizarre. I think the threat of fascism was underplayed by someone on here recently but it does feel like a sizeable chunk of the population would happily work for the modern gestapo.

What have people got against nightclubs?
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Theyre shit
 

shmmeee

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  • Dec 12, 2023
  • #32,617
skybluetony176 said:
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The Braverman bit sent me
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 13, 2023
  • #32,618
More gifts to the DUP?
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Dec 13, 2023
  • #32,619
wingy said:
More gifts to the DUP?
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They'd like Irishmen out of Northern Ireland, so not surprised they'd vote for a bill that wants to repatriate foreigners!
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Dec 13, 2023
  • #32,620
Deleted member 9744 said:
What I find bizarre is that with what is currently happening in this country you use this to illustrate fascism.
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Hardly. Quite a weird take to be honest. I was talking about the country's descent into fascism in 2019. You only noticed it in 2022 it seems.
 
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