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Nick

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,171
skybluetony176 said:
For sure. Just at 5 cases just this year already this is actually something that the Tories are world beating at.
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Yeah this is the issue when you want to make everything about which side of politics you are on.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,172
So an MP needed a minder to stop him from sexually assaulting people.

Then got promoted.

I mean for fuck sake

 

clint van damme

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,173
Nick said:
Yeah this is the issue when you want to make everything about which side of politics you are on.
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Of course this isn't just confined to them, but they're the party of government, the so called party of law and order. Its highly relevant which side of politics they're on.

They reinstated a man with previous for sexual assaults and hes reoffended. These are the people entrusted to run the country.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,174
clint van damme said:
Of course this isn't just confined to them, but they're the party of government, the so called party of law and order. Its highly relevant which side of politics they're on.

They reinstated a man with previous for sexual assaults and hes reoffended. These are the people entrusted to run the country.
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Yeah, I accept in a group of people, there'll be the odd wrong'un. It's how you deal with them that counts, and if true (I accept it's an if) him having to have a minder is pretty damning. Whips are supposed to hold the information to bring MPs down if they rebel - not to be the ones leading the sleaze!
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,175
clint van damme said:
Of course this isn't just confined to them, but they're the party of government, the so called party of law and order. Its highly relevant which side of politics they're on.

They reinstated a man with previous for sexual assaults and hes reoffended. These are the people entrusted to run the country.
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Oh yeah, lock the dirty fucker away. Bigger punishments than normal for these people.
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,176
PVA said:
So an MP needed a minder to stop him from sexually assaulting people.

Then got promoted.

I mean for fuck sake

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Got promoted as part of Boris’ reshuffle to deal with the culture in the Tory party and government no less. This was Boris’ attempt to raise standards. Doesn’t say a lot, for either Boris’ judgement or the quality of candidates.
 
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Sky_Blue_Daz

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,177
The Deputy whip's surname is Pincher and he's alleged to have groped someone , not even in the thick of it would come up with that joke
 
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David O'Day

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,178
skybluetony176 said:
Got promoted as part of Boris’ reshuffle to deal with the culture in the Tory party and government no less. This was Boris’ attempt to raise standards. Doesn’t say a lot, for either Boris’ judgement or the quality of candidates.
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part of his role was to look after mps welfare as well
 

Frostie

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,179
 
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Northants Sky Blue

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,180

Politics latest: Trump tariffs 'bad news' for global economy, says cabinet minister

Sir Keir Starmer promised "bold changes" as he announced he will relax rules around electric vehicles after UK carmakers were hit by Donald Trump's tariffs.
news.sky.com

Lists 8 Tory MP's recently disgraced by sex scandals/assaults

Good job the party has a PM with no history of sleaze and a rigorous Ethics Advisor
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,181
Northants Sky Blue said:

Politics latest: Trump tariffs 'bad news' for global economy, says cabinet minister

Sir Keir Starmer promised "bold changes" as he announced he will relax rules around electric vehicles after UK carmakers were hit by Donald Trump's tariffs.
news.sky.com

Lists 8 Tory MP's recently disgraced by sex scandals/assaults

Good job the party has a PM with no history of sleaze and a rigorous Ethics Advisor
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I mean he may as well call a snap election. Even Boris Johnson recognises that he’s Boris Johnson and this is how he is and how he always will be so rather than the situation improving it will only get worse as the Carry on Tory show goes on. His best chance of winning another GE is sooner rather than later when even more shit has been added to what is already a sizeable shit sandwich.
 

David O'Day

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,182

Olympic rower accuses Tory whip of hitting on him wearing bathrobe

MP Chris Pincher allegedly tried to untuck rower and Conservative activist Alex Story's shirt before emerging in a bathrobe with his chest and stomach hanging out
www.mirror.co.uk

yeah this is the kind of fella you make a whip
 
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Northants Sky Blue

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  • Jul 1, 2022
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,184
Northants Sky Blue said:
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Well that's a nailed on Tory win now then, isn't it.
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,185
 
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PVA

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,186
fernandopartridge said:
Jesus wept


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Better? Or is this worse for you?


 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,187
So. This week we’ve had “Carrie BJ for a job while my actual wife was being treated for cancer gate”followed by “to change the culture in government I’m going to appoint someone as a whip who has a history of sexual improprieties only for him to have to resign following further sexual improprieties gate”. Tune in next week for further gates
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,188
Tickled me a bit anyway…

Get the Jägers in, Olaf — Bozza the Bantmeister is on tour with the ladz

The Times & The Sunday Times

News and opinion from The Times & The Sunday Times
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,189
Frostie said:
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That’s unfair it’s not supposed to be pored over and questioned they were all empty words
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,190
skybluetony176 said:
So. This week we’ve had “Carrie BJ for a job while my actual wife was being treated for cancer gate”followed by “to change the culture in government I’m going to appoint someone as a whip who has a history of sexual improprieties only for him to have to resign following further sexual improprieties gate”. Tune in next week for further gates
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Come on you knew what he was like he’s not going to change you can’t expect him to
 

skybluetony176

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #16,191
Sky Blue Pete said:
Come on you knew what he was like he’s not going to change you can’t expect him to
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The irony is the commentators and politicians who keep trotting that line out also keep telling us we need to move on so he can deal with the issues. If they knew what he’s like they’d know that the only thing you’ll ever move onto is the next controversy.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 2, 2022
  • #16,192
No ideas aside from the electoral necessity to keep house prices up


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skybluetony176

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  • Jul 2, 2022
  • #16,193
The headlines this morning are not good for Boris. The fact that he tried to sweep it under the carpet until a fellow Tory made an official complaint forcing Boris to remove the whip. The fact that Boris appointed him in the first place when he absolutely would have known his history of behaviour all show poor judgment. Another by-election seems inevitable now and it would take a smaller swing than Tiverton for the Tories to lose it.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 2, 2022
  • #16,194
fernandopartridge said:
No ideas aside from the electoral necessity to keep house prices up


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Ridiculous, isn't it. How does that actually work, anyway. Your 3yo gets to inherit a mortgage if you die in a car crash?!?
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 2, 2022
  • #16,195
Deleted member 5849 said:
Ridiculous, isn't it. How does that actually work, anyway. Your 3yo gets to inherit a mortgage if you die in a car crash?!?
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well a 3 year old would in effect inherit the debt anyway so really it’s just a mortgage spread over a longer period
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 2, 2022
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Grendel said:
well a 3 year old would in effect inherit the debt anyway so really it’s just a mortgage spread over a longer period
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They would. tbf it was a poor example, but it's a bloody stupid idea though.
 

Grendel

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  • Jul 2, 2022
  • #16,197
Deleted member 5849 said:
They would. tbf it was a poor example, but it's a bloody stupid idea though.
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Why? There are 40 year mortgages now aren’t there?
 

Ian1779

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  • Jul 2, 2022
  • #16,198
skybluetony176 said:
The headlines this morning are not good for Boris. The fact that he tried to sweep it under the carpet until a fellow Tory made an official complaint forcing Boris to remove the whip. The fact that Boris appointed him in the first place when he absolutely would have known his history of behaviour all show poor judgment. Another by-election seems inevitable now and it would take a smaller swing than Tiverton for the Tories to lose it.
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Are you talking about Pinchers seat?
Can’t see that going to another party to be honest as there is no LD presence really to formulate an alliance… formal or informal.

 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Jul 2, 2022
  • #16,199
Grendel said:
Why? There are 40 year mortgages now aren’t there?
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Well. leaving aside the fact I'd think that would be stupid too... a mortgage is traditionally affordability, so it's as much across your earning career, isn't it? If we start with the assumption that it can be passed on to children, then it's no longer solely about *your* earning potential.

And a house is surely about being able to afford to live in it? Ultimately, if prices go up or down, that's redundant as long as you can afford to pay (and pay off) the mortage you have, as it's your home.

Of course, if mortgages are still decided by your ability to pay, and nobody else's, a 50 year mortgage will end up just a headline figure that next to nobody would take out, anyway.

I do find it odd how successive governments try to price control the housing market, but just about everything else is left to find its level.
 
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Grendel

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  • Jul 2, 2022
  • #16,200
Deleted member 5849 said:
Well. leaving aside the fact I'd think that would be stupid too... a mortgage is traditionally affordability, so it's as much across your earning career, isn't it? If we start with the assumption that it can be passed on to children, then it's no longer solely about *your* earning potential.

And a house is surely about being able to afford to live in it? Ultimately, if prices go up or down, that's redundant as long as you can afford to pay (and pay off) the mortage you have, as it's your home.

Of course, if mortgages are still decided by your ability to pay, and nobody else's, a 50 year mortgage will end up just a headline figure that next to nobody would take out, anyway.

I do find it odd how successive governments try to price control the housing market, but just about everything else is left to find its level.
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I don’t see it that way at all. One lender claims to offer a 40 year fixed mortgage - that’s incredible and the passing down is an absolute red herring as the mortgage equity gets paid down at some point - yes it’s interest loaded at the start - and the house price grows

If you then take a mortgage insurance policy against the mortgage in decreasing term assurance it would cover the mortgage and cost very little
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 2, 2022
  • #16,201
skybluetony176 said:
The headlines this morning are not good for Boris. The fact that he tried to sweep it under the carpet until a fellow Tory made an official complaint forcing Boris to remove the whip. The fact that Boris appointed him in the first place when he absolutely would have known his history of behaviour all show poor judgment. Another by-election seems inevitable now and it would take a smaller swing than Tiverton for the Tories to lose it.
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He is who he is he can’t change
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jul 2, 2022
  • #16,202
Ian1779 said:
Are you talking about Pinchers seat?
Can’t see that going to another party to be honest as there is no LD presence really to formulate an alliance… formal or informal.

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Probably why the guys done what the hell he likes
 

stupot07

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  • Jul 2, 2022
  • #16,203

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David O'Day

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  • Jul 2, 2022
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Starting to look like we could have another by-election soon

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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Jul 2, 2022
  • #16,205
fernandopartridge said:
No ideas aside from the electoral necessity to keep house prices up


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I think that’s harsh. The Government needs to do something to help young people on the property ladder.

For someone like me, I’m in mid-senior management and on a decent wage. Yet to buy on my own is very difficult and my options quite limited.

My deposit will be two thirds the value of what my mum paid for her house.

The housing market needs a correction, but with the economy going through inflation and interests rising… It’s a recipe for a lot of people to lose their homes.
 
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