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stupot07

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  • Mar 26, 2022
  • #11,586
fernandopartridge said:
Why should he claim expenses for a silly pr stunt like that? What's the public interest?
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Exactly, hes worth around £200m, £30 petrol is the equivalent to 0.026p to the average person.




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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2022
  • #11,587
stupot07 said:
Exactly, hes worth around £200m, £30 petrol is the equivalent to 0.026p to the average person.




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i doubt he claimed it anyway but I did know a director who was on probably £150 grand easily and claimed a bag of polo mints

his wealth is irrelevant
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Mar 26, 2022
  • #11,588
 

Philosoraptor

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  • Mar 26, 2022
  • #11,589
I wonder which ones have been suspended.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 26, 2022
  • #11,590
Grendel said:
i doubt he claimed it anyway but I did know a director who was on probably £150 grand easily and claimed a bag of polo mints

his wealth is irrelevant
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It is irrelevant. They're entitled to do it and are not breaking any laws. Says a lot about the type of person they are though.

Not that it relates to Rishi because we've no idea if he is or isn't claiming for it (though it would have to be under PR expenses (which IMO is a bullshit (sorry) expense to claim from the public purse for an elected official) if it wasn't his own car).
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 28, 2022
  • #11,591
Still, at least the fish are happy.


 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,592
He’s right. A change in trading intensity with the EU was predicted. And then dismissed as project fear by literally every current serving cabinet member. The serving government wasn’t expecting this. Unless they lied as part of the leave campaign.

 
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Philosoraptor

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,593
I fully believe anyone holding public office, but especially in central Government, should resign if they have broken the law on this issue.

Our Civil Liberties were strictly contained during this time.

Do as I say, not do as I do mentality.

I think we should have the right to know who the people who received the fines are. It is in the public interest.

Twenty fines to be issued over No 10 lockdown parties

Police say 20 fixed penalty notices will initially be issued over Downing Street parties that broke the law.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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rob9872

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,594
Let's not worry about if they're very capable or not, but banish them from office six months after a story breaks about a party two years ago. It's not like there is a war going on or a worldwide pandemic or pending financial crisis or anything else of note happening at the moment. As I said before, if they're not fit for office vote them out, if the PPE contracts were illegally handed out and they've profited from it, sack them and jail them but only the UK with our lazy pointless tabloid driven society could Partygate still dominate headlines.
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,595
Yeah, let's not worry if our elected leaders follow the rules they make themselves and expect others to follow.

I mean... that's the very definition of incapable really.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,596
So because there is a war and a pandemic going on it’s fine for them to break the law. Interesting logic.
 

clint van damme

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,597
rob9872 said:
Let's not worry about if they're very capable or not, but banish them from office six months after a story breaks about a party two years ago. It's not like there is a war going on or a worldwide pandemic or pending financial crisis or anything else of note happening at the moment. As I said before, if they're not fit for office vote them out, if the PPE contracts were illegally handed out and they've profited from it, sack them and jail them but only the UK with our lazy pointless tabloid driven society could Partygate still dominate headlines.
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Careful you don't do yourself an injury with that vigorous forlock tugging
 
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clint van damme

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,598
PVA said:
So because there is a war and a pandemic going on it’s fine for them to break the law. Interesting logic.
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Don't prosecute that fella responsible for the armed siege in Earlsdon because two weeks later someone killed a child a few hundred yards away.
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,599
So if a kid needs to be taught something the government are asking teachers to teach them it.

Bloody genius.

Are brave Boris has only gone and solved education!!


 
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skybluetony176

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,600
rob9872 said:
Let's not worry about if they're very capable or not, but banish them from office six months after a story breaks about a party two years ago. It's not like there is a war going on or a worldwide pandemic or pending financial crisis or anything else of note happening at the moment. As I said before, if they're not fit for office vote them out, if the PPE contracts were illegally handed out and they've profited from it, sack them and jail them but only the UK with our lazy pointless tabloid driven society could Partygate still dominate headlines.
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Government employees/possibly ministers/possibly the PM himself break the law on government property and you’re surprised it’s headline news.

Also it wasn’t a party, it was multiple parties. 22 at the last count IIRC. They’re repeat offenders.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,601
skybluetony176 said:
Government employees/possibly ministers/possibly the PM himself break the law on government property and you’re surprised it’s headline news.

Also it wasn’t a party, it was multiple parties. 22 at the last count IIRC. They’re repeat offenders.
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They don’t give a shit for this reason!! People move on and then you’re unpatriotic mentioning it again because we should all move on, integrity is an under valued trait in all areas of public life
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,602
Sky Blue Pete said:
They don’t give a shit for this reason!! People move on and then you’re unpatriotic mentioning it again because we should all move on, integrity is an under valued trait in all areas of public life
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it seems war ravaged Ukrainians rather like Mr Johnson

Boris Johnson's popularity in Ukraine is rubbing off at home

New polling shows the Prime Minister Boris Johnson's popularity among British voters has leapt 11 points in a week.
reaction.life
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,603
Grendel said:
it seems war ravaged Ukrainians rather like Mr Johnson

Boris Johnson's popularity in Ukraine is rubbing off at home

New polling shows the Prime Minister Boris Johnson's popularity among British voters has leapt 11 points in a week.
reaction.life
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Of course it has! It’s the fact he looks like a homeless vagabond on the world stage that people love about him
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,604
Grendel said:
it seems war ravaged Ukrainians rather like Mr Johnson

Boris Johnson's popularity in Ukraine is rubbing off at home

New polling shows the Prime Minister Boris Johnson's popularity among British voters has leapt 11 points in a week.
reaction.life
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Just as we find out the Downing Street regime broke the law on numerous occasions lol
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,605
Grendel said:
it seems war ravaged Ukrainians rather like Mr Johnson

Boris Johnson's popularity in Ukraine is rubbing off at home

New polling shows the Prime Minister Boris Johnson's popularity among British voters has leapt 11 points in a week.
reaction.life
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A) didn’t you say that Boris should just let them get on with it and not support them. So basically you’re so desperate to celebrate a Boris “victory” you’ll even take it when you categorically disagree with him.

B) I wonder how many Ukrainians trying to navigate the UK’s asylum system were asked.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,606
Sky Blue Pete said:
Just as we find out the Downing Street regime broke the law on numerous occasions lol
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its an article from a couple of weeks ago
 

skybluetony176

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,607
Grendel said:
its an article from a couple of weeks ago
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We knew a couple of weeks ago that the Tories repeatedly broke the law during lockdown.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,608
Oh dear

 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,609
That's been common knowledge for a while and it's a non story really.

It's like when Starmer got photographed having a beer in his constituency office and this was compared to Johnson having loads of parties in his house. Not even remotely comparable.
 
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stupot07

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,610
fernandopartridge said:
Oh dear

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Bit of a non story really. I think Karl Turner summed it up (and Corbyn was leader of the opposition at the time)


He probably sent that message to everyone given a peerage and all new members of Parliament despite their party.

Funny how hes tweeted that on the day everyone's talking about party gate. I smell a dead cat.

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Grendel

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,611
stupot07 said:
Bit of a non story really. I think Karl Turner summed it up (and Corbyn was leader of the opposition at the time)


He probably sent that message to everyone given a peerage and all new members of Parliament despite their party.

Funny how hes tweeted that on the day everyone's talking about party gate. I smell a dead cat.

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you honestly think he sends a text to everyone getting a peerage
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,612
I am sure that Mr Starmer congratulated all the Tory peers by text appointed since his leadership (how did he have his number I wonder) as it’s something tbe courteous chap extends to everyone
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,613
Grendel said:
I am sure that Mr Starmer congratulated all the Tory peers by text appointed since his leadership (how did he have his number I wonder) as it’s something tbe courteous chap extends to everyone
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Hang on a minute, I thought this whole Lebedev story was irrelevant and immaterial because he's not a political figure, or whatever your excuse was?

Your amazing double standards at work again.
 
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Grendel

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,614
PVA said:
Hang on a minute, I thought this whole Lebedev story was irrelevant and immaterial because he's not a political figure, or whatever your excuse was?

Your amazing double standards at work again.
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says the person who claims this is a non story and macron frequently wears a hoodie

how did Starmer have his number?
 
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PVA

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,615
Grendel said:
says the person who claims this is a non story and macron frequently wears a hoodie

how did Starmer have his number?
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What the fuck does Macron have to do with this?

You think it would be difficult for someone like him to get the number of a bloke that owns two newspapers? Really?

How many times has he been to his Italian villa I wonder?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,616
PVA said:
What the fuck does Macron have to do with this?

You think it would be difficult for someone like him to get the number of a bloke that owns two newspapers? Really?

How many times has he been to his Italian villa I wonder?
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Starmer tries to take the moral high ground - now it’s revealed (something Mr Starmer has refused when questioned to admit) that he congratulated him on a peerage. No doubt he also backed Mr Corbyn on trying g to get a certain abusive dirty misogynistic creep elected as well as he tried to stop the democratic will of the people.

Mr Starmer is clearly not whiter than white despite attempts to portray him as such
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,617
Grendel said:
you honestly think he sends a text to everyone getting a peerage
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Very possibly. Wouldn't have put it past a hard working genuine politician like Thatcher to do similar.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,618
What are Labour trying to present themselves as at the next election?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,619
Deleted member 5849 said:
Very possibly. Wouldn't have put it past a hard working genuine politician like Thatcher to do similar.
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we will know soon enough. He will show these texts (though I’m sure he refused to confirm when challenged he sent this one) and every elected Tory peer can confirm they received one can’t they?
 

Grendel

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  • Mar 29, 2022
  • #11,620
fernandopartridge said:
What are Labour trying to present themselves as at the next election?
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Well nothing really other than they are not Boris Johnson
 
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