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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (19 Viewers)

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,351
skybluetony176 said:
Naaa. It’s clearly an honest mistake. He’s a good guy.

MP had affair while wife battled cancer

NORTH Wiltshire MP James Gray has left his wife but says he will not be quitting his parliamentary seat.
www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk
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So had an affair while his wife was having cancer treatment and has made at best ill-judged language that could be construed as racist but doesn't see the problem in it.

He's just following the Boris path to power.
 

COV

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,352
Astute said:
Look above
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Literally nothing you are saying makes sense
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,353
COV said:
Literally nothing you are saying makes sense
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Someone says he couldn't see a black person properly because it wasn't light enough. But it is OK because he shook his hand. Not guilty.

Two people look similar. Guilty.

Can someone please explain.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,354
Astute said:
Someone says he couldn't see a black person properly because it wasn't light enough. But it is OK because he shook his hand. Not guilty.

Two people look similar. Guilty.

Can someone please explain.
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Literally no one has defended Jack Straw. One person used it as a pathetic deflection from this story.

And to repeat, he didn't say two people look similar. He said 'they all look the same'
 
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COV

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,355
Astute said:
Someone says he couldn't see a black person properly because it wasn't light enough. But it is OK because he shook his hand. Not guilty.

Two people look similar. Guilty.

Can someone please explain.
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I get the feeling that would turn into a very long & unrewarding conversation, so no.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,356
PVA said:
Have you even read the posts above you and the story?
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Cause he ain't it's astute
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,357
PVA said:
Literally no one has defended Jack Straw. One person used it as a pathetic deflection from this story.

And to repeat, he didn't say two people look similar. He said 'they all look the same'
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So nobody said that two people looked similar on here and I replied to that?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,358
Astute said:
Look above
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It was more about your jump to try and question whether he said it at all because of your bias that makes you think all accusations of racism against a RW politician are false.
 

Astute

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  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,359
COV said:
I get the feeling that would turn into a very long & unrewarding conversation, so no.
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And they are the two I quoted. So of course nobody can answer.

I see it is all politically based on here still on who is defended and attacked.

Racism is racism. End of.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,360
Can’t we just agree that the guy is most likely an ignorant racist wanker?
 
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Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,361
shmmeee said:
It was more about your jump to try and question whether he said it at all because of your bias that makes you think all accusations of racism against a RW politician are false.
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My bias? So what is my bias?

Boris is an absolute idiot. I have never voted Tory. I have never voted UKIP. My wife and younger kids live in an EU country. I will be joining them in 18 months. Yet because I question all sides I am accused of bias.

Time to leave you all to it. Not getting dragged into this Labour/Tory bullshit bias thing again.
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,362
Sick Boy said:
Can’t we just agree that the guy is most likely an ignorant racist wanker?
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Most decent people do

But what about something Jack Straw did 2 decades ago
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,363
Sick Boy said:
Can’t we just agree that the guy is most likely an ignorant racist wanker?
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I fully agree.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,364
shmmeee said:
It was more about your jump to try and question whether he said it at all because of your bias that makes you think all accusations of racism against a RW politician are false.
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No he's the logical centre ground guy that doesn't go for bias from either side














 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,365
Liquid Gold said:
No he's the logical centre ground guy that doesn't go for bias from either side














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They are as bad as each other. Unless you want to defend one side and attack the other that is.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,366
Astute said:
I fully agree.
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That's good, I just don't know why you're trying to make excuses for him by saying he didn't say it.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,367
Astute said:
They are as bad as each other. Unless you want to defend one side and attack the other that is.
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shmmeee said:
You mean like you’ve just done?
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,368
Astute said:
My bias? So what is my bias?

Boris is an absolute idiot. I have never voted Tory. I have never voted UKIP. My wife and younger kids live in an EU country. I will be joining them in 18 months. Yet because I question all sides I am accused of bias.

Time to leave you all to it. Not getting dragged into this Labour/Tory bullshit bias thing again.
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If this had been a member of a different party my opinion would be exactly the same. It's unacceptable and whoever did it should face severe reprimands for it.
 
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COV

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  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,369
PVA said:
That's good, I just don't know why you're trying to make excuses for him by saying he didn't say it.
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I also couldn't get my head around how Farage promoting the IRA was swept under the carpet as a "non story" bearing in mind how many times pictures of Gerry Adams make an appearance on here
 

Astute

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  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,370
PVA said:
That's good, I just don't know why you're trying to make excuses for him by saying he didn't say it.
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Here we go again..... as usual.

Point out where I said he didn't say it.

Idiots paradise on here.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,371
Sick Boy said:
Can’t we just agree that the guy is most likely an ignorant racist wanker?
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Yes
 
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Astute

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  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,372
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
If this had been a member of a different party my opinion would be exactly the same. It's unacceptable and whoever did it should face severe reprimands for it.
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Someone gets the point

But look at the others on here. And the idiots are in attack mode for me pointing out a handshake doesn't make up for a comment made.
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,373
Astute said:
Here we go again..... as usual.

Point out where I said he didn't say it.

Idiots paradise on here.
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You said that it's not racist to say two people look alike.

I replied to say that's not what he said and you came back with 'did he actually say that or are you making that up?'

This is a strange hill to die on
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,374
Astute said:
Someone gets the point

But look at the others on here. And the idiots are in attack mode for me pointing out a handshake doesn't make up for a comment made.
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NO ONE SAID A HANDSHAKE MAKES UP FOR ANY COMMENT MADE
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,375
Astute said:
Someone gets the point

But look at the others on here. And the idiots are in attack mode for me pointing out a handshake doesn't make up for a comment made.
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Point out where someone said a handshake made up for a comment made.

Idiots paradise coming on here from the Sunderland board.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,376
PVA said:
You said that it's not racist to say two people look alike.

I replied to say that's not what he said and you came back with 'did he actually say that or are you making that up?'

This is a strange hill to die on
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What a load of bullshit from yourself as usual.

I asked if it was or not. You know..... as debate. Are we only allowed to say it about white people? Have you ever said yourself that two people look similar? We all have. The context needs to be looked at.

Then something else comes up. That's different. But the comment I first replied to was just two people looking similar. Is it allowed?
 
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PVA

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  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,377
Astute said:
What a load of bullshit from yourself as usual.

I asked if it was or not. You know..... as debate. Are we only allowed to say it about white people? Have you ever said yourself that two people look similar? We all have. The context needs to be looked at.

Then something else comes up. That's different. But the comment I first replied to was just two people looking similar. Is it allowed?
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Are you allowed to say two people look alike? Of course.

But he didn't say that.

It's not my fault you didn't read the story properly.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,378
PVA said:
You're all missing the crux of the matter.
The fact is Jack Straw shook Robert Mugabes hand almost 20 years ago and that's the real issue of the day.
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PVA said:
NO ONE SAID A HANDSHAKE MAKES UP FOR ANY COMMENT MADE
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Liquid Gold said:
Point out where someone said a handshake made up for a comment made.

Idiots paradise coming on here from the Sunderland board.
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You were both saying......
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,379
Astute said:
You were both saying......
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That literally isn't excusing it at all. Is your brain cavity filled with marshmallows?
 

David O'Day

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,380
Astute said:
You were both saying......
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No one said it you floof Grenners used it as a bit of whateraboutery
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,381
PVA said:
Oh dear


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PVA said:
Are you allowed to say two people look alike? Of course.

But he didn't say that.

It's not my fault you didn't read the story properly.
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And again.....
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,382
Astute said:
You were both saying......
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Saying what? You're not making any sense.

Look I'm not trying to suggest you're a racist or anything, I just think you must have got the wrong end of the stick here because your argument is very strange and you're not making much sense.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,383
Liquid Gold said:
That literally isn't excusing it at all. Is your brain cavity filled with marshmallows?
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It doesn't matter that he said he couldn't see him in a room without much light because the handshake was of more importance.

No. The comment was also made.
 

Astute

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,384
PVA said:
Saying what? You're not making any sense.

Look I'm not trying to suggest you're a racist or anything, I just think you must have got the wrong end of the stick here because your argument is very strange and you're not making much sense.
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You said nobody put on here that two people look alike. Yet it was you who put it up. You said nobody put more importance on a handshake than a racist comment. But it was also you that said it.

Yet I am supposed to be the one who doesn't make sense. OK.
 

Liquid Gold

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 12, 2021
  • #7,385
Astute said:
It doesn't matter that he said he couldn't see him in a room without much light because the handshake was of more importance.

No. The comment was also made.
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Oh my fucking christ mate.

It was a post pointing out the insanity of somebody else posting something, that nobody agrees is a good thing, that happened 17 years ago to deflect from something, that people are deflecting away from, that's happened today.

If you don't get it you are either incredibly thick or just trolling.
 
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