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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 21, 2021
  • #6,791
Click on the link and read the whole thread to understand what a complete Tory clusterfuck this is.


Just remember that despite leaving the EU we did have the option to remain in the IEM

 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 21, 2021
  • #6,792
skybluetony176 said:
Click on the link and read the whole thread to understand what a complete Tory clusterfuck this is.


Just remember that despite leaving the EU we did have the option to remain in the IEM

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But none of the press (even remain press) mentions Brexit as a reason for the current issues ?!!

What caused the UK’s energy crisis?

From moves by China and Russia to changes in UK regulation, these are the factors that created the perfect storm
www.google.co.uk

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www.google.co.uk

IEM is only mentioned in passing in sky article. Nothing more. Its an interesting brief article as to why it’s worse here. Plenty of poor government planning, yes, 100%. Even if we don’t have sufficient energy production here, not having adequate storage to withstand large price fluctuations/issues with supply is inexcusable. We’re also basically trying to move to greener energy production/reliance but can’t deal with demand without a massive reliance on others for gas supply. Dangerous !
 

chiefdave

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  • Sep 21, 2021
  • #6,793
CCFCSteve said:
But none of the press (even remain press) mentions Brexit as a reason for the current issues ?!!
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Is what's happening here also happening in Europe? I assume not given the reports that NI are OK as they can get supplies from Ireland. If its not Brexit why is the increase in wholesale price impacting us more than elsewhere?
 
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stupot07

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  • Sep 21, 2021
  • #6,794
chiefdave said:
Is what's happening here also happening in Europe? I assume not given the reports that NI are OK as they can get supplies from Ireland. If its not Brexit why is the increase in wholesale price impacting us more than elsewhere?
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The majority of the uk press are pro tory, and pro brexit. Shock horror they are not mentioning it much yet.

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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 21, 2021
  • #6,795
stupot07 said:
The majority of the uk press are pro tory, and pro brexit. Shock horror they are not mentioning it much yet.

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I attached Guardian and Sky articles, neither are pro Tory or pro Brexit
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 21, 2021
  • #6,796
chiefdave said:
Is what's happening here also happening in Europe? I assume not given the reports that NI are OK as they can get supplies from Ireland. If its not Brexit why is the increase in wholesale price impacting us more than elsewhere?
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That’s why I attached the articles Dave
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 21, 2021
  • #6,797
stupot07 said:
The majority of the uk press are pro tory, and pro brexit. Shock horror they are not mentioning it much yet.

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The majority of the press were never pro Brexit
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2021
  • #6,798
CCFCSteve said:
But none of the press (even remain press) mentions Brexit as a reason for the current issues ?!!

What caused the UK’s energy crisis?

From moves by China and Russia to changes in UK regulation, these are the factors that created the perfect storm
www.google.co.uk

Redirect Notice

www.google.co.uk

IEM is only mentioned in passing in sky article. Nothing more. Its an interesting brief article as to why it’s worse here. Plenty of poor government planning, yes, 100%. Even if we don’t have sufficient energy production here, not having adequate storage to withstand large price fluctuations/issues with supply is inexcusable. We’re also basically trying to move to greener energy production/reliance but can’t deal with demand without a massive reliance on others for gas supply. Dangerous !
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The Twitter link doesn’t just mention brexit either. It also talks about storage and how the Tories allowed the facility that stored 70% of the UK’s gas to be closed. A move that was widely criticised at the time. The Guardian article also touches on storage. Of all of Europe’s stored gas the UK’s stored gas accounts for just 1%. Pretty shocking statistic, especially when you consider that we’re more reliant on gas than other European countries.
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 21, 2021
  • #6,799
Grendel said:
The majority of the press were never pro Brexit
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Fuck off you muppet. 70% of the UK’s press is in the control of 3 families all pro brexit. Even then the frothiest of frothy brexit loving papers is outside of their control, namely the Express.
 
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JAM See

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  • Sep 21, 2021
  • #6,800
Control
Has
Been
Taken
Back


Isn't that enough?
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 21, 2021
  • #6,801
JAM See said:
Control
Has
Been
Taken
Back


Isn't that enough?
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We control nothing.
 

chiefdave

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  • Sep 21, 2021
  • #6,802
CCFCSteve said:
That’s why I attached the articles Dave
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But issues with things like covid, Russia's control on the supply etc as detailed in the articles apply to all countries not just the UK so what is so different about us?

I've looked for reports of other governments in Europe having to reassure that there will be enough food and the power won't go off but can't find them.

If its not Brexit related, which it may well not be, then doesn't that point to government incompetence? An over reliance on fossil fuels isn't something that should take the government by surprise and only be addressed when we're at crisis point.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Sep 21, 2021
  • #6,803

If this is true, it just goes to show what an incompetent bellend Starmer is. He has an absolute open goal right now in regards to what is going on with the shitshow of the government… and this is his grand plan.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Sep 21, 2021
  • #6,804
chiefdave said:
But issues with things like covid, Russia's control on the supply etc as detailed in the articles apply to all countries not just the UK so what is so different about us?

I've looked for reports of other governments in Europe having to reassure that there will be enough food and the power won't go off but can't find them.

If its not Brexit related, which it may well not be, then doesn't that point to government incompetence? An over reliance on fossil fuels isn't something that should take the government by surprise and only be addressed when we're at crisis point.
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No food shortages or threats of power cuts here.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 21, 2021
  • #6,805
No 1664 or full size seeded wholemeal bread from asda tonight .
Well a replacement granny mini loaf replacement ffs.
No replacement beer.,
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 21, 2021
  • #6,806
Ian1779 said:

If this is true, it just goes to show what an incompetent bellend Starmer is. He has an absolute open goal right now in regards to what is going on with the shitshow of the government… and this is his grand plan.
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Gotta get the important stuff sorted first
 

dutchman

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  • Sep 22, 2021
  • #6,807
wingy said:
No 1664 or full size seeded wholemeal bread from asda tonight .
Well a replacement granny mini loaf replacement ffs.
No replacement beer.,
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It's the end of civilisation as we know it!
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 22, 2021
  • #6,808
skybluetony176 said:
The Twitter link doesn’t just mention brexit either. It also talks about storage and how the Tories allowed the facility that stored 70% of the UK’s gas to be closed. A move that was widely criticised at the time. The Guardian article also touches on storage. Of all of Europe’s stored gas the UK’s stored gas accounts for just 1%. Pretty shocking statistic, especially when you consider that we’re more reliant on gas than other European countries.
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I agree Tony, it’s a shambles in terms of planning and protection...as I said, its inexcusable ! It’s like we think we all live in a lovely world where people/countries don’t fuck each other over when there’s leverage and control. We need to take this (and Covid) as a warning, the government needs to pull their fingers out and make us far more self sufficient.
 

Evo1883

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  • Sep 22, 2021
  • #6,809
So the tories are pushing ahead with the removal of the 20 pound per week universal credit boost (UC TOO LOW ANYWAY ) in a time when the cost of living is rising beyond that of peoples means

Absolute vermin

Vote these fucking clowns out PLEASE!!!
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 22, 2021
  • #6,810
CCFCSteve said:
I agree Tony, it’s a shambles in terms of planning and protection...as I said, its inexcusable ! It’s like we think we all live in a lovely world where people/countries don’t fuck each other over when there’s leverage and control. We need to take this (and Covid) as a warning, the government needs to pull their fingers out and make us far more self sufficient.
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Apparently a report in 2010 advised we double our gas storage capacity in preparation of what we’re seeing now. It doesn’t sound like this is an issue that couldn’t have been prepared for, the government was being advised that this was likely to happen at some point and did less than nothing if that was at all possible by allowing Rough to be closed reducing our already woefully inadequate storage ability to be diminished by 70%. I think it’s already been dismantled so we can’t even recommission it for future use. We’ve basically got to invest in complete new facilities.
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 22, 2021
  • #6,811
Evo1883 said:
So the tories are pushing ahead with the removal of the 20 pound per week universal credit boost (UC TOO LOW ANYWAY ) in a time when the cost of living is rising beyond that of peoples means

Absolute vermin

Vote these fucking clowns out PLEASE!!!
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I saw a report earlier that the average 2 children family is likely to be £1600.00 worse of a year from the triple whammy of NI hike, UC cut and the cost of living hike.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 22, 2021
  • #6,812
skybluetony176 said:
Apparently a report in 2010 advised we double our gas storage capacity in preparation of what we’re seeing now. It doesn’t sound like this is an issue that couldn’t have been prepared for, the government was being advised that this was likely to happen at some point and did less than nothing if that was at all possible by allowing Rough to be closed reducing our already woefully inadequate storage ability to be diminished by 70%. I think it’s already been dismantled so we can’t even recommission it for future use. We’ve basically got to invest in complete new facilities.
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The CO2 situation was here two year's ago with a dry run while two plants were out of action for maintenance.
 
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wingy

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  • Sep 22, 2021
  • #6,813
skybluetony176 said:
I saw a report earlier that the average 2 children family is likely to be £1600.00 worse of a year from the triple whammy of NI hike, UC cut and the cost of living hike.
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Just need interest rates to get on the move now.
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 22, 2021
  • #6,814

Boris Johnson tells Macron: Donnez-moi un break over new pact

Boris Johnson tells the French president to "get a grip" amid anger over a submarine deal.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 23, 2021
  • #6,815
The word " Gammon " added to the list of offensive words by ofcom .

Quick lads /lasses , delete your social media history before it's made a hate crime and people start trawling through your history

Jobs will be lost over this in 9 years time
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 23, 2021
  • #6,816
Evo1883 said:
The word " Gammon " added to the list of offensive words by ofcom .

Quick lads /lasses , delete your social media history before it's made a hate crime and people start trawling through your history

Jobs will be lost over this in 9 years time
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Surely cancelled gammon should be discussed on your anyone a vegan thread
 
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Evo1883

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  • Sep 23, 2021
  • #6,817
skybluetony176 said:
Surely cancelled gammon should be discussed on your anyone a vegan thread
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I believe the word remoaner has also been deemed offensive too .

From now on we will simply say G***on and R***aner
 
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Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Sep 23, 2021
  • #6,818
Don't come on this thread very often, but a story that amused me........

Nadhim Zahawi, the local MP for Stratford and recently appointed Minister for Education missed an appointment to attend speech day at a Stratford secondary school that my son attends. His no show was blamed on an administrative communication oversight, and the headmaster covered admirably (as acting Minister for Education!). The bit that amused me was that apparently on a previous occasion he had turned up 35 minutes late to deliver a talk to 6th form students (prior to his ministerial appointment). Upon arrival he declared that he hadn't prepared anything to say, so would students skip straight to asking him any questions.
The first question he got was.................................. Why haven't you done any preparation? Ouch !
 
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 23, 2021
  • #6,819
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Don't come on this thread very often, but a story that amused me........

Nadhim Zahawi, the local MP for Stratford and recently appointed Minister for Education missed an appointment to attend speech day at a Stratford secondary school that my son attends. His no show was blamed on an administrative communication oversight, and the headmaster covered admirably (as acting Minister for Education!). The bit that amused me was that apparently on a previous occasion he had turned up 35 minutes late to deliver a talk to 6th form students (prior to his ministerial appointment). Upon arrival he declared that he hadn't prepared anything to say, so would students skip straight to asking him any questions.
The first question he got was.................................. Why haven't you done any preparation? Ouch !
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Love it. Don’t mess with kids man, they’ll eat you alive.
 
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David O'Day

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  • Sep 23, 2021
  • #6,820
Lozza Fox is no having to get parts in the film version of the self published novel

Laurence Fox to play Joe Biden’s son Hunter in new film

The Reclaim campaigner expresses his pleasure that film-makers are ‘fighting back against the woke lecture that is modern drama’
www.theguardian.com
 

skybluetony176

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  • Sep 23, 2021
  • #6,821
Kermit the fucking frog.

Do you think he understands he’s a grown man?
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 23, 2021
  • #6,822
skybluetony176 said:
Kermit the fucking frog.

Do you think he understands he’s a grown man?
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I just love how his ex-wife trolls him through their kids
 

David O'Day

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  • Sep 23, 2021
  • #6,823
ow to mate friends and influence people

US Press Secretary Takes Aim At Boris Johnson After He Upsets Journalists At Biden Meeting

Press secretary Jen Psaki blamed the PM for the furore in the Oval Office on Tuesday.
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Sep 23, 2021
  • #6,824
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Don't come on this thread very often
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Wise man!
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Sep 23, 2021
  • #6,825
I’d be amazed if any of them could tie their own shoelaces.
 
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