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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 3, 2026
  • #60,621
Grendel said:
No he gave an answer that gave him a get out - there should be no get out. Mandleson has always been associated with sleaze and corruption- he’s known to have defended Epstein when he raped a 14 year old girl - if this was a Tory prime minister the reaction would be very different
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Find my response to Boris with the guy in the Tory party and you’ll find a very similar approach

Why do you think despite probably up to a 1000 trafficked under age girls only Epstein and maxwell have served time
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 3, 2026
  • #60,622
Grendel said:
No he gave an answer that gave him a get out - there should be no get out. Mandleson has always been associated with sleaze and corruption- he’s known to have defended Epstein when he raped a 14 year old girl - if this was a Tory prime minister the reaction would be very different
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You’re just trying to start an argument out of nothing on this one.
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 3, 2026
  • #60,623
This is the kind of parliamentary expertise that Farage was looking for when he tempted these Tory big beasts to cross the aisle

 
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mmttww

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  • Feb 3, 2026
  • #60,624
Grendel said:
if this was Boris Johnson you’d be demanding his head
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Didn't think I'd have a use for this twice in one night.

and if we're doing the whatabout dance, and you're after a gotcha, be specific. Is this a 'Keir has to go because he hired a wrongun' argument, or 'Kier knew he was a wrongun and lied about it' thing?

because if appointing Tw*ts was a resignation must, no PM would last more than a week. and keep in mind I thought Starmer was a w*nker long before the block 14 crew realised it was cool.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 3, 2026
  • #60,625
Captain Dart said:
mmmmm.
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"All the talents" latest

Where's shmmeee these days?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,626

Birmingham council 'no longer bankrupt' as proposed budget includes extra £130m | TheBusinessDesk.com

The council has been embroiled in a year-long labour dispute with Unite over fair pay for bin collection workers
www.thebusinessdesk.com

Praise the lord. It was never bust to start with. Totally mismanaged by the council (Labour), managed to miscalculate a huge amount of liabilities, built a 500m surplus in employees DB pension scheme, bumped council tax up by 20% over two years and has significantly reduced services for all residents. All whilst Birmingham became stab capital of the country

Most are asking who the fuck is the is council serving these days….its not the residents
 
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Mcbean

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,627
Starmer is toast according to LBC this morning !
 

StrettoBoy

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,628
chiefdave said:
There's a lot to choose from but Starmer bringing him back must rank as one of his worst decisions.
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I agree. Starmer just doesn't seem to have any political nouse.

I'm not suggesting that he would have known what would come to light about Mandelson and Epstein but he must surely have known that he was taking a risk. After all, Madelson is well known for his love of money and associating with the rich, powerful and famous and he has form for doing favours for those who fund his lifestyle.

Thankfully, it looks as if at long last Madelson's place in political life is gone for ever. Hopefully, like Mr Mountbatten-Windsor, he will just slink off into obscurity, never to be seen or heard of again unless it's in a court of law.
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,629
It seems quite obvious that Mandelson was bought in specifically because of his ability to cosy up to Trump (who yesterday said what’s happening to Mandelson was “too bad”)
 
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mmttww

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,630
Mcbean said:
Starmer is toast according to LBC this morning !
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StrettoBoy

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,631
SBT said:
It seems quite obvious that Mandelson was bought in specifically because of his ability to cosy up to Trump (who yesterday said what’s happening to Mandelson was “too bad”)
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Possibly but it seems odd, given some of Mandelson's previous comments about Trump (calling him "a bully" and "a danger to the world"), from which he had to do some hasty, slimy backtracking when he was appointed. Was Starmer not aware of these? If not, someone near him such as Morgan McSweeney should have advised him.
 
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wingy

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,632
StrettoBoy said:
Possibly but it seems odd, given some of Mandelson's previous comments about Trump (calling him "a bully" and "a danger to the world") from which he had to do some hasty, slimy backtracking when he was appointed. Was Starmer not aware of these? If not, someone near him such as Morgan McSweeney should have advised him.
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It's possibly Mcsweeney who's the issue here along with the,pM.
 
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StrettoBoy

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,633
wingy said:
It's possibly Mcsweeney who's the issue here along with the,pM.
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I can't believe that Starmer wasn't aware of Mandeson's comments about Trump, unless he has been living in a remote cave for several years.
 

alexccfc99

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,634

This is genuinely vile…
 
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Dougin

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,635
Starmer appointed him knowing he was continuing a friendship with a convicted sex trafficker.

The guy has to go, Boris went for a glass of champagne and pizza.

You do the math.
 

Grendel

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,636
StrettoBoy said:
Possibly but it seems odd, given some of Mandelson's previous comments about Trump (calling him "a bully" and "a danger to the world"), from which he had to do some hasty, slimy backtracking when he was appointed. Was Starmer not aware of these? If not, someone near him such as Morgan McSweeney should have advised him.
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There would have been a connection with Trump somewhere. Mandleson used to work directly for Robert Maxwell - then became entwined with Ghislaine and then Epstein.
 
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SBT

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,637
Grendel said:
There would have been a connection with Trump somewhere. Mandleson used to work directly for Robert Maxwell - then became entwined with Ghislaine and then Epstein.
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I didn’t know Mandelson was so well connected in French politics too
 
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Grendel

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,638
Pretty dramatic day in parliament today and I’m surprised it’s not being discussed.

Starmers attempt to block details of the vetting process for the child rapist sympathiser Mandleson has been overturned. He’s finished
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,639
CCFCSteve said:

Birmingham council 'no longer bankrupt' as proposed budget includes extra £130m | TheBusinessDesk.com

The council has been embroiled in a year-long labour dispute with Unite over fair pay for bin collection workers
www.thebusinessdesk.com

Praise the lord. It was never bust to start with. Totally mismanaged by the council (Labour), managed to miscalculate a huge amount of liabilities, built a 500m surplus in employees DB pension scheme, bumped council tax up by 20% over two years and has significantly reduced services for all residents. All whilst Birmingham became stab capital of the country

Most are asking who the fuck is the is council serving these days….its not the residents
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Same everywhere. They're focused on polices that have no positive impact locally.

Potholes are bad everywhere, gradual addition of charge for green waste, but they've got a net zero a diversity policy in place and masses of road closures to build cycle lanes hardly anyone uses.
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,640
Grendel said:
Pretty dramatic day in parliament today and I’m surprised it’s not being discussed.

Starmers attempt to block details of the vetting process for the child rapist sympathiser Mandleson has been overturned. He’s finished
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Doesn’t look good. After years of Tory melodrama I was hoping for a period of stability but nope, another government full of incompetence and infighting

Im personally more concerned about the economy, public services etc than this type of stuff but things aren’t currently great there either, so add poor political judgement to the mix and Starmers in a precarious position.

One thing I would say though is the major issues here happened under the Brown government
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,641
Dougin said:
Starmer appointed him knowing he was continuing a friendship with a convicted sex trafficker.

The guy has to go, Boris went for a glass of champagne and pizza.

You do the math.
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Boris went for repeatedly lying about that and other things like pincher by name pincher by nature, including lying in parliament. That’s not spoken incorrectly due to a lack of knowledge, he repeatedly, knowingly and very deliberately lied in parliament to try and save his own arse.

If Starmer is doing the same then yes he has to go too.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,642
SBT said:
It seems quite obvious that Mandelson was bought in specifically because of his ability to cosy up to Trump (who yesterday said what’s happening to Mandelson was “too bad”)
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Fancy having to pay for your actions
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,643


Is this Dumb and Dumber II
 
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LarryGrayson

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,644
Captain Dart said:
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Is this Dumb and Dumber II
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gotta trust the capitals
 
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LarryGrayson

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,645
Captain Dart said:
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Is this Dumb and Dumber II
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reposted by that account yeah

 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,646
LarryGrayson said:
reposted by that account yeah

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More patriots keen for the country to be attacked
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,647
wingy said:
It's possibly Mcsweeney who's the issue here along with the,pM.
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Quite a farce that the country's prime minister again seems to be the passenger in some no mates weirdo (Cummings and McSweeney) mission. Says a lot for the Westminster circus of media and politicians.
 
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mmttww

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,648
f*ckin shambles, innit. Enjoying 'gatesisavirus' liking Nazi occupation over an elected government almost as much as seeing just how sh*t politicians can be. Imagine Burnham and his crew are in a bunker plotting some 3D chess moves. Man, what a mess.
 

mmttww

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,649
fernandopartridge said:
Quite a farce that the country's prime minister again seems to be the passenger in some no mates weirdo (Cummings and McSweeney) mission. Says a lot for the Westminster circus of media and politicians.
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wingy

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,650
Kinda fits somebody's agenda, needing to prevent thing's and it conveniently appears.
How does the block on Andy Burnham look now or the stupid decision to go to China, not that I have an issue with China but clearly some have.
 

Marty

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,651
Captain Dart said:
Same everywhere. They're focused on polices that have no positive impact locally.

Potholes are bad everywhere, gradual addition of charge for green waste, but they've got a net zero a diversity policy in place and masses of road closures to build cycle lanes hardly anyone uses.
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They'll spend a fortune putting everything back to how they should be, near where I work they don't even maintain the drainage, any heavy rain they just close the road. It's a pain in the arse.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,652
I would just like to remind everyone that Starmer hired someone caught up in a scandal, and he owns that decision. It deserves criticism, and it reflects poorly on his judgement.

But Boris Johnson’s government gave unlawful advice to the Queen to prorogue Parliament, he barreled the country through a Brexit settlement sold on fantasies, he was fined over Partygate and was later found by MPs to have deliberately misled Parliament about it, he presided over sleaze and cronyism, from the Owen Paterson affair onwards, and he still clung on until the sheer accumulation of misconduct finally made his position untenable.

So while the usual voices and faces scream loudly that Starmer must resign, and to be clear I don’t think he comes out of this unscathed, it’s hard to take the outrage seriously when many of them defended Johnson, excused him, or pretended none of it mattered at the time.

If they waved through constitutional vandalism and years of rule-breaking, this sudden moral panic reads squarely as opportunism, and Starmer should answer for poor political nous without letting the loudest hypocrites set the terms of the debate.
 
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Mcbean

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  • Feb 4, 2026
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Boris was hounded out - over a piece of cake - not that he didn’t do anything wrong because he did but Starmer also has misled the electorate imo and with his pretty incompetent cabinet including Miliband who will bankrupt the country with his net zero vanity project and Reeves with her continual u turn tax regime this country is in a big mess - I have no idea who can come in and make it better - I’m sticking to football
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Feb 4, 2026
  • #60,654
Sky Blue Pete said:
I would just like to remind everyone that Starmer hired someone caught up in a scandal, and he owns that decision. It deserves criticism, and it reflects poorly on his judgement.

But Boris Johnson’s government gave unlawful advice to the Queen to prorogue Parliament, he barreled the country through a Brexit settlement sold on fantasies, he was fined over Partygate and was later found by MPs to have deliberately misled Parliament about it, he presided over sleaze and cronyism, from the Owen Paterson affair onwards, and he still clung on until the sheer accumulation of misconduct finally made his position untenable.

So while the usual voices and faces scream loudly that Starmer must resign, and to be clear I don’t think he comes out of this unscathed, it’s hard to take the outrage seriously when many of them defended Johnson, excused him, or pretended none of it mattered at the time.

If they waved through constitutional vandalism and years of rule-breaking, this sudden moral panic reads squarely as opportunism, and Starmer should answer for poor political nous without letting the loudest hypocrites set the terms of the debate.
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Starmer’s days are very much numbered now. He’ll be gone within 2 weeks, IMO.
 

Nick

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  • Feb 4, 2026
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