I want him gone while there’s still time to turn the tide of popular support.Well if the alternative is Farage then yeah I'm behind him. Not sure why any sensible person wouldn't be.
Doesn't mean I think he's doing a brilliant job. At no point have I said he is. As others have said, the hate is way out of proportion though.
Probably not but when you put all the problems as down to ‘14 years of Tory rule’ and the ‘grown ups’ will fix everything… when that doesn’t happen, it all unravels rapidly. People tend to forget that a lot of pent up anger towards Labour started under Blair and Brown.
You can see my post from last year, I said that Starmer was not suited to fix the specific issues this country faces. Much in the same way Sunak was ill-suited to a billionaire PM in the midst of a cost of living crisis. I voted for the Tories begrudgingly.
To take one issue: Immigration. That alone helped to annihilate the Tories and Labour only won back the ‘Red Wall’ because of the betrayal of voters by Johnson coalition of voters and unsurprisingly, that same ‘Red wall’ is about to become teal.
Structurally, without Scotland or the Red Wall, Labour have not and probably cannot win a general election, let alone the loss of Wales. Go through all the elections Labour have won and you’ll see dominance in Wales, Scotland and the ‘Red Wall’. Without it, it’s finished and Keir Starmer and much of the modern Labour Party does not connect with that constituency of voter. Great amongst metropolitan people, public sector workers, university students and welfare claimants. The only mainstream Labour politician off-hand is relatable to most working class voters is Rayner and even then she’s just been found to be fiddling the rules on stamp duty. ‘One rule for them…’ and all that.
That’s without considering the impact of a Zach Polanski and Your Party offering more economically populist policies.
Right now, Labour is going the way of continental centre-left parties and it’s not looking good.
Setting aside the actual ‘political coalition’ talk (most of which I agree with btw)…
My overriding point is: explain what rational reason people have for chanting that he’s a wanker at the football/darts/etc if people can think for themselves and he’s not been dreadful? I’ll qualify the final bit as I don’t want the impression being that I think he’s been good, v much lower mid-table. Do you think it’s solely down to immigration?
yea your the expert mate in all you show em lolLet's face it, you have absolutely no idea what it is like to be a farmer.
Frankly, anyone that voted for Labour shouldn't be trying to lecture other people on politics.
It's really not proportional at all. It's because the press are largely right learning, and places like Twitter/X have become an echo chamber. The problem is although he is hated, the Torys caused most of this mess with austerity, Brexit and Liz truss budget, and Farage would be a complete disaster.
Anger at the establishment which is why is madness that they are flocking to Farage tice and AndersonThe press bias doesn’t really wash as traditional strong areas are collapsing - look at Wales where they’ve been the dominant party for over 100 years
Reform holds 11% lead over Plaid Cymru in Westminster election poll, as centre left vote fragments in Wales
Martin Shipton Reform UK has an 11 point lead over Plaid Cymru in the latest YouGov/Cardiff University opinion poll for Westminster voting intentions, as centre-left support becomes increasingly fragmented across multiple parties amid an increase in support for the Greens. The latest poll...nation.cymru
One poll had Labour across wales at 10%
It’s a boring narrative point that it’s all because of the ‘right wing press’, it’s a bogeyman.The press bias doesn’t really wash as traditional strong areas are collapsing - look at Wales where they’ve been the dominant party for over 100 years
Reform holds 11% lead over Plaid Cymru in Westminster election poll, as centre left vote fragments in Wales
Martin Shipton Reform UK has an 11 point lead over Plaid Cymru in the latest YouGov/Cardiff University opinion poll for Westminster voting intentions, as centre-left support becomes increasingly fragmented across multiple parties amid an increase in support for the Greens. The latest poll...nation.cymru
One poll had Labour across wales at 10%
Anger at the establishment which is why is madness that they are flocking to Farage tice and Anderson
People are easily ledDo you think if peoples lives were improving they’d seek alternative solutions?
So are you, it would seem.People are easily led
I don't think it's their political persuasion making them that way judging by this postThey can think for themselves and this government has been a disaster. In fact, you'd even agree on this point so not sure why you would even say that.
With respect, middle-class lefties tend to be some of the most patronising people I've come across. Have you ever considered that you may actually be wrong and not everyone else is stupid for once?
Often I’m sureSo are you, if would seem.
"Middle-class lefties"They can think for themselves and this government has been a disaster. In fact, you'd even agree on this point so not sure why you would even say that.
With respect, middle-class lefties tend to be some of the most patronising people I've come across. Have you ever considered that you may actually be wrong and not everyone else is stupid for once?
They didn't improve under 15 years of Tory rule. labour are making a dog's dinner out of this but it was never going to be a quick fix. This is one of the problems of current Britain, and modern society in general. We live in a world where we want instant gratification, and are constantly looking for the next shiny new thing.Do you think if peoples lives were improving they’d seek alternative solutions?
With a mix of a love of people who talk well and smile and can tell you how everything will improve but you won’t have to sacrifice anythingThey didn't improve under 15 years of Tory rule. labour are making a dog's dinner out of this but it was never going to be a quick fix. This is one of the problems of current Britain, and modern society in general. We live in a world where we want instant gratification, and are constantly looking for the next shiny new thing.
Daily Mail doing what daily Mail always do from the 30’s to the present dayNIGEL FARAGE: Here's how Reform can give EVERY voter hope next year
As 2025 draws to a close, I can't remember the country ever being gloomier. People are getting poorer. Unemployment is rising.www.dailymail.co.uk
I’m amazed no one has mentioned this...
Probably because it's boring listening to people (Jenrick, others) who celebrated someone loudly in the past suddenly shouting about how evil they are. Nauseating stuff.
I’m sure that’s the reason
I’m amazed no one has mentioned this absolute fiasco
Government to review 'information failures' in British-Egyptian activist case - BBC News
Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper says she and Sir Keir Starmer were unaware of Alaa Abd El Fattah's "abhorrent" historical tweets.www.bbc.com
Which way should it go then?Can't have it one way and not the other. Abit contradictory.
Personally I’ve been quite busy with Christmas and various City games, don’t know about youI’m sure that’s the reason
Which way should it go then?
I’m sure Alaa Abd El Fattah appreciates the supportWhat do you think. Fuck tweets. If you don't like what's being said stay off it. I do.
Most people are cowards in real life.
I’m sure Alaa Abd El Fattah appreciates the support
Personally I’ve been quite busy with Christmas and various City games, don’t know about you
According to Farage it’s a country of cowards afraid to walk down the street.What do you think. Fuck tweets. If you don't like what's being said stay off it. I do.
Most people are cowards in real life.
she was a horrible foul racist by all accountsOh was your account hacked when you were referring to Brigitte Bardot and her views on immigrants?
she was a horrible foul racist by all accounts
No, that was me, don’t worry!Oh was your account hacked when you were referring to Brigitte Bardot and her views on immigrants?
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