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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (24 Viewers)

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Sbarcher

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  • Dec 22, 2025
  • #59,746
I didn't see it, but they were just talking on the radio about the Royal Variety Performance. When a performer came on and impersonated Starmer he was roundly booed by the audience. A barometer maybe?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 22, 2025
  • #59,747
Sbarcher said:
I didn't see it, but they were just talking on the radio about the Royal Variety Performance. When a performer came on and impersonated Starmer he was roundly booed by the audience. A barometer maybe?
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Everyone is just a sheep
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 22, 2025
  • #59,748
Sky Blue Pete said:
Everyone is just a sheep
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Especially those morons who dribble after Polanski
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 22, 2025
  • #59,749
Grendel said:
Especially those morons who dribble after Polanski
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No those who think Starmer is an enemy of the state, too left wing, too right wing, get their news off gb news and x and believe tha Farage is the answer

Those are the sheeple
 

Grendel

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  • Dec 22, 2025
  • #59,750
Sky Blue Pete said:
No those who think Starmer is an enemy of the state, too left wing, too right wing, get their news off gb news and x and believe tha Farage is the answer

Those are the sheeple
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We are living in an era where Zack Polanski gets 17% of the vote - it’s safe to say scrutiny of policy and integrity in politics is pretty low and silly sound bites win votes
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 22, 2025
  • #59,751
Grendel said:
We are living in an era where Zack Polanski gets 17% of the vote - it’s safe to say scrutiny of policy and integrity in politics is pretty low and silly sound bites win votes
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Let’s go with Farage then what’s the worst that can happen hey ffs
 

TomRad85

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  • Dec 22, 2025
  • #59,752

Green party councillor arrested over alleged modern slavery offences

Sohail Asghar, a councillor who represents the Greens on Lancashire county council, was arrested in Accrington on November 6 after allegations of modern slavery and assault.
www.dailymail.co.uk
 

rob9872

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  • Dec 22, 2025
  • #59,753
Sky Blue Pete said:
Let’s go with Farage then what’s the worst that can happen hey ffs
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The problem is that the centre is fekked. If it became a straight shoot out between the extremes and that meant Farage and that nutcase, I dont think you'd like the result. If you’re not a pussy marching vegan, I simply dont see the appeal.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,754
chiefdave said:
Queing to get in the SkyDome last night I was behind 3 young lads, I assume brothers. Would guess the eldest was 12 or 13 and a couple of younger kids.

All spending their time on their phones scrolling while waiting to get in. Could see what they were looking at and it was a never ending stream of Reform, Tommy Robinson, MAGA, Tate etc.
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Tbh I can imagine this goes pretty hard if you’re 13 (sorry about the biased caption)

 
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Sick Boy

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,755
SBT said:
Tbh I can imagine this goes pretty hard if you’re 13 (sorry about the biased caption)

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Based on that then he’s also a fraud for calling himself English.
 
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PVA

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,756
Absolutely off his fucking nut

Also shat his pants when confronted by a boxer

 
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Grendel

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,757
Sky Blue Pete said:
Let’s go with Farage then what’s the worst that can happen hey ffs
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You miss the point

As George Galloway would say Polanski and Farage are two cheeks on the same backside.

Opportunists with zero integrity
 
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SomersetSB

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,758
The melon party- Green on the outside, red on the inner!!
 

rob9872

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,759
I've just been reading about that weirdo who has been drugging and raping his wife over a long period and allowing other men to rape her too. 60+ offences, absolute scumbag and deserves whatever comes his way.

But ... this is where I get annoyed with politicising everything and I'd say the same whatever the side of politics he was. When I was growing up, I always had the tabloids were the gossips and the broadsheets whilst slightly left or right leaning, reported facts and were trusted sources.

The list of headlines had a number saying 'Husband and five other men charged with sex offences against ex-wife' until I get to the Guardian 'Former Tory Councillor in court accused of drugging and raping ex-wife'.

It's sensationalist trash to do nothing more than smear rather than report. They should be better than that. I'm not disputing he was a Tory Councillor either, just that it bears no weight on the horrific crime itself.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,760
rob9872 said:
I've just been reading about that weirdo who has been drugging and raping his wife over a long period and allowing other men to rape her too. 60+ offences, absolute scumbag and deserves whatever comes his way.

But ... this is where I get annoyed with politicising everything and I'd say the same whatever the side of politics he was. When I was growing up, I always had the tabloids were the gossips and the broadsheets whilst slightly left or right leaning, reported facts and were trusted sources.

The list of headlines had a number saying 'Husband and five other men charged with sex offences against ex-wife' until I get to the Guardian 'Former Tory Councillor in court accused of drugging and raping ex-wife'.

It's sensationalist trash to do nothing more than smear rather than report. They should be better than that. I'm not disputing he was a Tory Councillor either, just that it bears no weight on the horrific crime itself.
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I’m sorry Rob, this looks a bit of a double standard when asylum seekers and any other ‘undesirables’ are smeared by the press when similar crimes are reported.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,761
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’m sorry Rob, this looks a bit of a double standard when asylum seekers and any other ‘undesirables’ are smeared by the press when similar crimes are reported.
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It is double standards but Rob is right it doesn’t need politicising
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,762
Sky Blue Pete said:
No those who think Starmer is an enemy of the state, too left wing, too right wing, get their news off gb news and x and believe tha Farage is the answer

Those are the sheeple
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Why on earth would you give credence to any politician.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,763
Captain Dart said:
Why on earth would you give credence to any politician.
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Better than anarchy
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,764
Sky Blue Pete said:
No those who think Starmer is an enemy of the state, too left wing, too right wing, get their news off gb news and x and believe tha Farage is the answer

Those are the sheeple
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People don’t really think Farage is ‘the answer’, this is a line you keep parroting without really interrogating.

Zach Polanski’s Greens are experiencing a bump in the polls for the exact same reason as Farage and Reform. They are both filling a vacuum vacated by the Tories and Labour.

Immigration and the cost of living are number one and two issues reported in the polls so is it surprise parties focusing on immigration and economic populism (such as wealth taxes) are polling well?

Labour are following a wider trend of traditional centre-left parties across Europe; they’ve become gentrified and no longer understand the working class and how to raise their living standards. These last 2 Labour budgets demonstrate this very clearly.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,765
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I’m sorry Rob, this looks a bit of a double standard when asylum seekers and any other ‘undesirables’ are smeared by the press when similar crimes are reported.
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That is because they are massively overrepresented in certain crime statistics. There is a difference between not reporting that and sweeping it under the carpet versus naming the political leanings of a criminal in a case that has nothing to do with politics.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,766
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
That is because they are massively overrepresented in certain crime statistics. There is a difference between not reporting that and sweeping it under the carpet versus naming the political leanings of a criminal in a case that has nothing to do with politics.
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I’m on about headlines that focus on the religion or asylum status of the criminal. It’s done with exactly the same goal in mind.
 

rob9872

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,767
Sky Blue Pete said:
It is double standards but Rob is right it doesn’t need politicising
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If it was the Sun, Mail or Express etc I'd agree. I just expect (perhaps wrongly) better of the broadsheets.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,768
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
That is because they are massively overrepresented in certain crime statistics.
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Are you referring to Tory councillors or immigrants here?
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,769
chiefdave said:
Are you referring to Tory councillors or immigrants here?
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Immigrants.
 
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fatso

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,770
Sky Blue Pete said:
Let’s go with Farage then what’s the worst that can happen hey ffs
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There needs to be a third "viable" option Pete, im not saying reform are the answer, but the answer sure as hell ain't another Labour or Tory government.

If reform do get in at the next election, it will be because the other parties have lost the trust of the people. Thats a damming indictment of modern day politicians.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,771
fatso said:
There needs to be a third "viable" option Pete, im not saying reform are the answer, but the answer sure as hell ain't another Labour or Tory government.

If reform do get in at the next election, it will be because the other parties have lost the trust of the people. Thats a damming indictment of modern day politicians.
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It is. The pity is a genuine centre left government focused on the cost of living could have guaranteed power for a generation and seen off the likes of Reform at the same time.
 
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fatso

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,772
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It is. The pity is a genuine centre left government focused on the cost of living could have guaranteed power for a generation and seen off the likes of Reform at the same time.
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Or even a centre right government.
 
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SBT

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,773
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It is. The pity is a genuine centre left government focused on the cost of living could have guaranteed power for a generation and seen off the likes of Reform at the same time.
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If you look at the direction of travel for politics in most English-speaking and European countries, not to mention the strong anti-incumbent feeling worldwide then I struggle to see how this would actually happen.
 

rob9872

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,774
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It is. The pity is a genuine centre left government focused on the cost of living could have guaranteed power for a generation and seen off the likes of Reform at the same time.
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Would need to be a centre left party that head on tackles immigration. It might be arguable whether it should be, but I think it's the number one priority for a lot of voters. Anyone who looks like being interested is labelled racist and that solves nothing. Lots of the working population see themselves as working hard, not being rewarded, costs rising and put the blame on immigration. I think we know that's not all of the reason, but it's an easy soundbite and is a factor. Until we have sensible open conversation about it, mainstream politics is finished.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,775
Sky Blue Pete said:
Better than anarchy
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Does anarchy doesn't mean what you think it does?
It doesn't mean chaos it means no rulers to dictate to you.
Anyway most politicians are attracted to power for the wrong reasons, I despise them.
 
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wingy

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,776
Sky Blue Pete said:
No those who think Starmer is an enemy of the state, too left wing, too right wing, get their news off gb news and x and believe tha Farage is the answer

Those are the sheeple
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Okay would you say his stance on Palestine is the right way to take the country compared to the migrnt hotels etc?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,777
fatso said:
Or even a centre right government.
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Centre right governments advocate for policies that exacerbate rather than solve these problems in my opinion.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,778
rob9872 said:
Lots of the working population see themselves as working hard, not being rewarded, costs rising and put the blame on immigration.
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I really think you could divide up the different ‘sides’ of the electorate into those who blame immigration for this and those who don’t.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,779
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It is. The pity is a genuine centre left government focused on the cost of living could have guaranteed power for a generation and seen off the likes of Reform at the same time.
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You say that, but what policies would do this in your view?

You can measure how Labour’s anti-business policies have backfired on ‘working people’… private sector redundancies and unemployment is increasing.

Likewise, tax rises and inflation directly impact the money in people’s pockets and their spending power. Again, things get worse.
 

rob9872

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  • Dec 23, 2025
  • #59,780
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I really think you could divide up the different ‘sides’ of the electorate into those who blame immigration for this and those who don’t.
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90% probably. I imagine there are a number who see it as a factor without being the only reason.

Out of interest (and I'm not picking a fight as I finish here in 30 minutes ) where do you sit? I mean I know of course you're pro-immigration, but do you believe it's in any way to blame for where we're at and plays at least a part in the issues we have currently?
 
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