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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (34 Viewers)

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chiefdave

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  • Today at 11:36 AM
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Mucca Mad Boys said:
Starmer and Reeves refuse to go on GB News
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GB News claims they are an entertainment channel not a news channel to avoid scrutiny from Ofcom so why should Starmer and Reeves go on there?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 11:36 AM
  • #59,572
chiefdave said:
GB News claims they are an entertainment channel not a news channel to avoid scrutiny from Ofcom so why should Starmer and Reeves go on there?
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As proven on the last page it’s not even true they refuse to go on.
 

chiefdave

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  • Today at 11:37 AM
  • #59,573
Brighton Sky Blue said:
As proven on the last page it’s not even true they refuse to go on.
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Don't bring facts into the politics thread
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 11:40 AM
  • #59,574
chiefdave said:
Don't bring facts into the politics thread
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So much of what Farage UK does is a cheap imitation of Trump. Try to create personality cults, have ‘entrance music’ to rallies, ‘DOGE’, attack the press instead of handle questions etc etc. No original thinking, no substance, just racist dog whistling.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Today at 11:51 AM
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Brighton Sky Blue said:
So much of what Farage UK does is a cheap imitation of Trump. Try to create personality cults, have ‘entrance music’ to rallies, ‘DOGE’, attack the press instead of handle questions etc etc. No original thinking, no substance, just racist dog whistling.
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Trump and Farage both have a cult like following. And yes you can to a certain extent apply the same to some figures on the left but I don't think it's at the same scale.

Look at the response to the Farage school stuff. Just not prepared to accept it could possibly have happened, making every excuse they can think of for him. I don't get why people would blindly follow anyone in politics but the control Trump and Farage have over their supporters is a whole other level.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Today at 11:57 AM
  • #59,576
chiefdave said:
Trump and Farage both have a cult like following. And yes you can to a certain extent apply the same to some figures on the left but I don't think it's at the same scale.

Look at the response to the Farage school stuff. Just not prepared to accept it could possibly have happened, making every excuse they can think of for him. I don't get why people would blindly follow anyone in politics but the control Trump and Farage have over their supporters is a whole other level.
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Likeability matters more in politics and the world in general than most other things. Have it and you get cut more slack; Trump despite an appalling second term still is on 35% approval where basically anyone else would be low 20s.

Farage is seen as ‘one of the lads’ so the excuses come out whenever he’s in a bit of trouble. Johnson too, the clown act got him a lot further than a lazy toerag like him should have got and it took off the scale sleaze and corruption for him to eventually become unpopular.

We then wonder why our politicians aren’t good at their jobs.
 
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LarryGrayson

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  • Today at 12:11 PM
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chiefdave said:
GB News claims they are an entertainment channel not a news channel to avoid scrutiny from Ofcom so why should Starmer and Reeves go on there?
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yea but what about smash hits
 
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ccfcno9

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  • Today at 12:18 PM
  • #59,578
Brighton Sky Blue said:
As proven on the last page it’s not even true they refuse to go on.
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Its often stated on the channel that he's been repeatedly asked to appear and always refuse's the interview above was at Labour party conference not GB news studio's. The stupid bastard probably got confused when asked to take questions from Chris Hope and that it was not Chris Mason of the BBC. Could you upload a link of him being on GB news.
 

mmttww

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  • Today at 12:24 PM
  • #59,579
Mucca Mad Boys said:
the reason the BBC is getting flak is because it claims impartiality whilst promoting liberal worldviews.
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Can you show your working here? i.e. an example of where they've actually promoted a liberal worldview.

Edit: also trying to unpick how Labour ministers not being in a rush to go on GB News is any kind of stick to beat them with. It's the most blatantly biased pile of sh*t I've ever seen in the UK. Just a Temu version of Fox, a megaphone for right wing spanners.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Today at 12:40 PM
  • #59,580
mmttww said:
Can you show your working here? i.e. an example of where they've actually promoted a liberal worldview.
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Have you not looked into leaked memo last month?

Of 219 push notifications on the BBC News app, just 4 were concerning illegal migrants/asylum seekers. 3 of those were concerned with their poor living conditions.

Maya Forstater’s report claims that on Trans issues, BBC reporting uses activist language and refused to air ‘gender-critical’ stories. For example, Martine Croxhall was reprimanded for refusing to read ‘pregnant people’ with ‘women’.

The most blatant example is splicing up Trump’s speeches.
 

mmttww

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  • Today at 12:46 PM
  • #59,581
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Have you not looked into leaked memo last month?

Of 219 push notifications on the BBC News app, just 4 were concerning illegal migrants/asylum seekers. 3 of those were concerned with their poor living conditions.

Maya Forstater’s report claims that on Trans issues, BBC reporting uses activist language and refused to air ‘gender-critical’ stories. For example, Martine Croxhall was reprimanded for refusing to read ‘pregnant people’ with ‘women’.

The most blatant example is splicing up Trump’s speeches.
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so promoting a liberal worldview is not screaming about asylum seekers, using a few words on a particular topic and making a convicted criminal who incited violence look a bit worse than he already did? Got it. Hardcore Leftie propaganda right there.
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Today at 12:49 PM
  • #59,582
It’s obvious when someone from the UK has gone down Twitter rabbit holes and starts conflating left-wing/liberal.
 
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LarryGrayson

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  • Today at 12:55 PM
  • #59,583
Sick Boy said:
It’s obvious when someone from the UK has gone down Twitter rabbit holes and starts conflating left-wing/liberal.
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and using the word leftists
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Today at 12:57 PM
  • #59,584
LarryGrayson said:
and using the word leftists
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Exactly. PERIOD!
 
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