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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (12 Viewers)

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CCFCSteve

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #58,381
wingy said:
Can you predict the BOE interest over say six months?
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I’m not Mystic Meg wingy ! Very hard. Get the impression that markets expect 1-2 more cuts in that time. Depends on inflation and jobs market though
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #58,382
Marty said:
At that price, none.
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Porridge, Water and cande light you could house a prisoner for £1,000 a year.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #58,383
CCFCSteve said:
I’m not Mystic Meg wingy ! Very hard. Get the impression that markets expect 1-2 more cuts in that time. Depends on inflation and jobs market though
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Cheers that's kinda what I was expecting, hopefully?
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #58,384
Ccfcisparks said:
Porridge, Water and cande light you could house a prisoner for £1,000 a year.
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What about house arrest?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #58,385
wingy said:
What about house arrest?
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Too easy to get around that.
 
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Marty

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #58,386
Ccfcisparks said:
Porridge, Water and cande light you could house a prisoner for £1,000 a year.
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Who said anything about candles? another £300 pp saved. Easy this.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #58,387
Marty said:
Who said anything about candles? another £300 pp saved. Easy this.
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Good idea actually. Sunlight should suffice.
 
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wingy

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #58,388
Ccfcisparks said:
Good idea actually. Sunlight should suffice.
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Mandatory!
I have the answer, Sunnier climes than here!!!
Get your Vit D here!
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #58,389
On a more serious note, could free up a lot of prison space by not securing non violent offenders and decriminalising certain drugs
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #58,390
Ccfcisparks said:
Porridge, Water and cande light you could house a prisoner for £1,000 a year.
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Surprised you didn’t say you wouldn’t need prison then
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #58,391
Captain Dart said:
More Labour balls ups.
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I remember that clueless idiot from the COVID period. Misrepresenting Stats Jamie.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #58,392
CCFCSteve said:
Agreed. I don’t think it was her intention to raise main taxes, even if the manifesto promise was ridiculous and unnecessary. Unfortunately certain elements outside her control like higher global bond yields, have been exacerbated by own goals such as increasing emp’ers NIC (which didn’t help inflation) and party resistance to any spending controls, which have worsened the overall fiscal position.

The crazy thing is, by not showing even a semblance of perceived control over spending we are probably paying more to borrow, thereby reducing the cash available to spend on public services. We will all have to pay for that now. Unintended but pretty obvious consequences .
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Good job that bonds are not necessary then isn't it
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Nov 4, 2025
  • #58,393
fernandopartridge said:
I remember that clueless idiot from the COVID period. Misrepresenting Stats Jamie.
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He was the former Head of Health/Jobs/Wages statistics at the ONS.
 

Bugsy

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #58,394
Another one,
Fucking pathetic.

Manhunt for foreign prisoner after mistaken release from HMP Wandsworth | UK News | Sky News Manhunt for foreign prisoner after mistaken release from HMP Wandsworth
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #58,395
Bugsy said:
Another one,
Fucking pathetic.

Manhunt for foreign prisoner after mistaken release from HMP Wandsworth | UK News | Sky News Manhunt for foreign prisoner after mistaken release from HMP Wandsworth
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To think that the criminals of the past had to come up with all these elaborate schemes to escape prison, when all they needed to do was wait for Labour to be elected
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #58,396
Brighton Sky Blue said:
To think that the criminals of the past had to come up with all these elaborate schemes to escape prison, when all they needed to do was wait for Labour to be elected
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There's plenty of stuff to give the government stick for, not sure this can be pinned on them though!

(though you may well have been making a joke, not sure!)
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #58,397
PVA said:
There's plenty of stuff to give the government stick for, not sure this can be pinned on them though!

(though you may well have been making a joke, not sure!)
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You must admit the optics of this are terrible.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #58,398
Brighton Sky Blue said:
You must admit the optics of this are terrible.
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Oh absolutely!

But it's not the government's fault is it, its an error by an individual somewhere in the prison system/civil service who of course are not elected and not part of Labour.

From what I've read a lot of this stuff is done manually and is absolutely ripe for human error, like this.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #58,399
Bugsy said:
The rules should go out the window if you commit a crime.
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But arresting, trying and sending people to prison are part of the rules. So if they go out the window if someone commits a crime then we literally can't do anything to them at all.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #58,400
PVA said:
Oh absolutely!

But it's not the government's fault is it, its an error by an individual somewhere in the prison system/civil service who of course are not elected and not part of Labour.

From what I've read a lot of this stuff is done manually and is absolutely ripe for human error, like this.
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Not really buying that, for it to happen twice in relatively quick succession just shows no lessons were learned by those who have oversight.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #58,401
2 escaped from Wandsworth Prison. My friend lives on the street of the prison and its amazing to see it just plonked in a residential street. He was waiting at the bus stop the morning Daniel Khalife escaped Wandsworth
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #58,402
David Lammy “never happening again” - oh it has!

HMP Wandsworth admits two inmates released in error in past week

Police are looking for Brahim Kaddour-Cherif, an Algerian freed in error a week ago, and William Smith, 35, freed by mistake on Monday.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 5, 2025
  • #58,403
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Not really buying that, for it to happen twice in relatively quick succession just shows no lessons were learned by those who have oversight.
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It's a manual entry form that some poor sod, probably on minimum wage, has to check a box to say this particular criminal is on immigration hold. That box was not checked for these two individuals.

If a doctor erroneously discharged a patient and they died the next day is that the government's fault?
 
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SBT

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  • Nov 6, 2025
  • #58,404
PVA said:
It's a manual entry form that some poor sod, probably on minimum wage, has to check a box to say this particular criminal is on immigration hold. That box was not checked for these two individuals.

If a doctor erroneously discharged a patient and they died the next day is that the government's fault?
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If a public service is under-resourced to the extent that key safety measures can be short-circuited by low-level employees then yes it’s absolutely the government’s fault?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 6, 2025
  • #58,405
PVA said:
It's a manual entry form that some poor sod, probably on minimum wage, has to check a box to say this particular criminal is on immigration hold. That box was not checked for these two individuals.

If a doctor erroneously discharged a patient and they died the next day is that the government's fault?
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Once is misfortune, twice is carelessness.
 

Grendel

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  • Nov 6, 2025
  • #58,406
Great headline

Access Restricted
 
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rob9872

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  • Nov 6, 2025
  • #58,407
I see Sultana in the HoC yesterday raising why Soldier F had higher than normal funding for his defence of the Bloody Sunday trial. You'd think he'd been awarded damages all he did was clear his name. It appears she's questioning the legitimacy of it rather than be satisfied with justice. What she really wanted was a conviction. IRA sympathiser just like Corbyn to put with her Palestine Action badge. Assume she's forgotten about the IRA bomb on the city she's supposed to represent, I'm sure the constituents are delighted.
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 6, 2025
  • #58,408
SBT said:
If a public service is under-resourced to the extent that key safety measures can be short-circuited by low-level employees then yes it’s absolutely the government’s fault?
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And who has gutted public services for the last 14 years?

(cc @rob9872 , I know you love that one )
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 6, 2025
  • #58,409
rob9872 said:
I see Sultana in the HoC yesterday raising why Soldier F had higher than normal funding for his defence of the Bloody Sunday trial. You'd think he'd been awarded damages all he did was clear his name. It appears she's questioning the legitimacy of it rather than be satisfied with justice. What she really wanted was a conviction. IRA sympathiser just like Corbyn to put with her Palestine Action badge. Assume she's forgotten about the IRA bomb on the city she's supposed to represent, I'm sure the constituents are delighted.
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She's a disgrace to the constituency and to the city as a whole.
 
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rob9872

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  • Nov 6, 2025
  • #58,410
Brighton Sky Blue said:
She's a disgrace to the constituency and to the city as a whole.
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And a Liverpool fan
 
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PVA

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  • Nov 6, 2025
  • #58,411
Also she seems to be holding on to £800k of membership fees raised by ‘Your Party’ and refusing to release them to the party. What an absolute disaster that has been.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Nov 6, 2025
  • #58,412
SBT said:
If a public service is under-resourced to the extent that key safety measures can be short-circuited by low-level employees then yes it’s absolutely the government’s fault?
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Define ‘under resourced’. The NHS will get £246.8bn from now until the end of the parliament.

The NHS budget has only grown, the question is by how much. No one can actually give a concrete figure of what the NHS ‘needs’. They can’t because it’s a money pit.

Even under the last Labour government, despite high increases in the NHS budgets, the health outcomes are very average.
 
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Mucca Mad Boys

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  • Nov 6, 2025
  • #58,413
PVA said:
Also she seems to be holding on to £800k of membership fees raised by ‘Your Party’ and refusing to release them to the party. What an absolute disaster that has been.
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Is anyone surprised that this has gone badly? Zarah Sultana’s politics is befitting of a uni student union than MP or potential party leader.

Low grade politicians across the board.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Nov 6, 2025
  • #58,414
rob9872 said:
And a Liverpool fan
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I've no problem with Liverpool fans...who come from Liverpool.
 
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mmttww

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  • Nov 6, 2025
  • #58,415
as much as I like a lot of her policy positions, and from a lot of accounts she did a better job than most at the nuts and bolts of being an MP, she's made herself look like a knob since the Your Party stuff started.
 
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