Grendel
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I assume it’s because of the ban of the practice some countries are now imposing
It’s a pretty strong claim. Or how about I go around making big statements without supporting them?
It's just yet another excuse for a bit of Muslim bashing, let's face it.I assume it’s because of the ban of the practice some countries are now imposing
It’s out there for all to see, google is your friend if you don’t believe me.It’s a pretty strong claim. Or how about I go around making big statements without supporting them?
Another one scared to give a true opinion on what they logically make of it.It's just yet another excuse for a bit of Muslim bashing, let's face it.
It's just yet another excuse for a bit of Muslim bashing, let's face it.
I can't say it's something that appeals to me either, TBF.Probably but it is a grim practice
Get back to posting your donkey GIFs.Another one scared to give a true opinion on what they logically make of it.
The royal families of Europe were more incestuous than any others around 150-200 years ago.I assume it’s because of the ban of the practice some countries are now imposing
The royal families of Europe were more incestuous than any others around 150-200 years ago.
Yes, first cousin relationships should be illegal and forced marriage already is in this country isn’t it?
Just wondered what people thoughts are on first cousin marriages which the majority of Muslims do.
A friend’s wife is a paediatric nurse. She says the amount of babies born with defects due to this inbreeding is massive.
The cost for the UK must billlions in medical bills, disability payments, cars provided to families, etc etc.
Surely it’s time to put a stop to this.
Thought unsettling the boats is what we wanted?Surely when the NHS is on its knees, the economy is on its knees. This should be something that is changed straight away.
But no because we have career politicians in charge who don’t really care and only worryabout unsettling the boat.
I've got no problem with changing the law around this but if you did that would you not have to make some provision for existing marriages?Surely when the NHS is on its knees, the economy is on its knees. This should be something that is changed straight away
It would certainly help, grannies might be able to heat their homes then. It’s people like you that are sending this country in a downward spiral.Thought unsettling the boats is what we wanted?
It would have to just be from going forward.I've got no problem with changing the law around this but if you did that would you not have to make some provision for existing marriages?
What do countries that have already outlawed this do when a married couple tries to move there?
Did they? Not yet.Why do you think Norway and Sweden have just banded it.
Are any countries in Europe currently considering legal changes to ban first cousin marriages?
Yes, several European countries are actively considering or advancing legal changes to ban first-cousin marriages, primarily driven by concerns over health risks to offspring (such as doubled chances of birth defects), forced marriages, and honor-based oppression. These efforts have gained momentum in recent years, particularly in Scandinavia, amid rising immigration from regions where the practice is more common. Below is a summary of the key countries based on the latest developments as of October 2025:Sweden
Denmark
- Status: The government has formally proposed a ban on first-cousin marriages (and those between uncles/aunts and nieces/nephews) as part of amendments to the Marriage Code. The proposal, from a special commission report released on October 8, 2024, recommends implementation by July 1, 2026, and non-recognition of foreign cousin marriages.
- Rationale: Focuses on protecting against "honor oppression" and coercion, especially among women and girls, rather than solely genetic risks (though these are acknowledged).
- Progress: The bill is under parliamentary review; Minister of Justice Gunnar Strömmer has endorsed it as a step toward broader anti-oppression laws.
United Kingdom
- Status: Discussions and proposals are underway to prohibit the practice, following Norway's 2024 ban. Scandinavian neighbors are coordinating efforts, with Denmark cited in multiple reports as "considering action" alongside Sweden.
- Rationale: Similar to Sweden—health risks, prevention of forced unions, and social control—linked to immigrant communities from the Middle East and North Africa.
- Progress: No formal bill yet, but government inquiries are active, with potential legislation eyed for 2025.
Other Mentions
- Status: A private member's bill (Marriage (Prohibited Degrees of Relationship) Bill), introduced by Conservative MP Richard Holden in December 2024, seeks to add first cousins to the list of prohibited relationships under the Marriage Act. It had its first reading in December 2024 and is scheduled for second reading in January 2025.
- Rationale: Public health (e.g., higher risks of recessive disorders like cystic fibrosis), ethical concerns, and alignment with recent bans in Norway and Sweden. Critics argue it's eugenic or culturally insensitive.
- Progress: The Labour government under PM Keir Starmer has faced criticism for potentially blocking or delaying it, but it's still under debate in the House of Commons. NHS statements in September 2025 highlighted some cultural benefits but acknowledged health drawbacks.
These initiatives reflect a mix of medical evidence (e.g., from studies like Born in Bradford) and social policy goals. Outcomes depend on parliamentary votes, but momentum is building in the Nordic region. For real-time updates, I recommend checking official government sites like the Swedish Parliament or UK Hansard. If you'd like details on a specific country or related health data, let me know!
- Netherlands: Recent debates have escalated to the prime ministerial level, with proposals for a ban to address immigration-related family reunifications and health concerns. No bill has been introduced yet, but it's part of ongoing policy discussions.
- Broader Context: Norway's ban took effect in June 2024, influencing neighbors. No major proposals in other Western European countries (e.g., France, Germany, Italy) as of now, though academic and media discussions reference Europe's historical shift away from the practice via medieval Church bans.
For the hard of understanding I repeat that I did say ALL PARTIES ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY.Funny trying to pin that on Reeves/Labour.
If you want to find someone to blame for the high numbers of foreign people taking jobs in this country then that person is obviously De Pfeffel.
For the hard of understanding I repeat that I did say ALL PARTIES ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY.
Of course. Bloody climate scientists making things that’ll take greenhouse gases out of the atmosphere.It would certainly help, grannies might be able to heat their homes then. It’s people like you that are sending this country in a downward spiral.
The uni-party is alive and we'llFor the hard of understanding I repeat that I did say ALL PARTIES ARE UNTRUSTWORTHY.
should be something that is changed straight away.
could probs save a lot more money if folks stopped smoking so much and we didn't spend billions locking people up for getting high. You've picked a pretty niche subject for the trolling this time
I guess that depends on how you measure it. About a fifth of the uk prison population are in on drug related charges so we’re that accounts for over a billion of the prison budget. Then there’s all the people who are in as repeat offenders of usually “petty” crimes to fund their addiction.Im not sure we are spending billions locking people up for getting high are we mate, you must be high with a statement like that.
Did they? Not yet.
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Well it does, as I said they are not arrested for getting high are they.I guess that depends on how you measure it. About a fifth of the uk prison population are in on drug related charges so we’re that accounts for over a billion of the prison budget. Then there’s all the people who are in as repeat offenders of usually “petty” crimes to fund their addiction.
A millionaire levy in Massachusetts that New York City mayoral frontrunner Zohran Mamdani holds up as a model for taxing the rich has generated $3 billion more in revenue than expected without forcing significant high-profile departures from the state.
In the two years since the state started charging a 4% surtax on incomes over $1 million, the effort has created a $5.7 billion windfall, with the surplus being used to fund bridge repairs, bolster literacy programs and address the transportation system’s budget deficit.
While other states have progressive tax brackets, the Massachusetts law stands out structurally in its targeting of incomes that exceed seven figures. That has infuriated business leaders who complain it makes the state less competitive and drives away the wealthy. Several are even backing ballot proposals to lower the state income levy and limit how much tax revenue can be collected in any given year as a way to diffuse the millionaire’s fee.
Surtax collections have far exceeded what officials budgeted for. The state's fiscal year covers the 12 months ending on June 30 of the stated year.
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