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Do you want to discuss boring politics? (26 Viewers)

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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 16, 2025
  • #57,716
Found this very interesting, the end 'result' may surprise some.

 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 16, 2025
  • #57,717
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Found this very interesting, the end 'result' may surprise some.

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I think it'll happen eventually but probably towards the end of our lifetimes.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Oct 17, 2025
  • #57,718
Your electricity bills are going to go up and up even if wholesale prices halve.
This is the data industry spokespersons presented to parliament.
The energy policy is a complete pig's ear.
 
Last edited: Oct 17, 2025

Briles

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  • Oct 17, 2025
  • #57,719
One for you oldies
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 17, 2025
  • #57,720
Briles said:
One for you oldies
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They've captured Angela Rayner pretty well on the right there
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 17, 2025
  • #57,721
Captain Dart said:
Your electricity bills are going to go up and up even if wholesale prices halve.
This is the data industry spokespersons presented to parliament.
The energy policy is a complete pig's ear.
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But it's not just electricity prices is it. If we don't have net zero and the planet keeps getting hotter, how much are your food bills going to go up because of massive increased irrigation needs and crop failures? How much extra will we need to spend on the fire service and how much will repairing the damage those fires cause cost? It's not a standalone issue - it's interconnected to pretty much everything else.

And besides, a large part of electricity prices 'policy costs' are due to gas setting the wholesale price, not renewables.
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Oct 17, 2025
  • #57,722
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But it's not just electricity prices is it. If we don't have net zero and the planet keeps getting hotter, how much are your food bills going to go up because of massive increased irrigation needs and crop failures? How much extra will we need to spend on the fire service and how much will repairing the damage those fires cause cost? It's not a standalone issue - it's interconnected to pretty much everything else.

And besides, a large part of electricity prices 'policy costs' are due to gas setting the wholesale price, not renewables.
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There is no climate crisis, China is building coal fired power stations, tell them they have to freeze. India is consuming more and more power too. I am sure Africa will follow.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 17, 2025
  • #57,723
Captain Dart said:
There is no climate crisis, China is building coal fired power stations, tell them they have to freeze. India is consuming more and more power too. I am sure Africa will follow.
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Countries building coal power electricity stations isn't proof there is no climate crisis.

People building these things because they put economic growth above everything else doesn't mean the world isn't burning due to it.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 17, 2025
  • #57,724
Captain Dart said:
Your electricity bills are going to go up and up even if wholesale prices halve.
This is the data industry spokespersons presented to parliament.
The energy policy is a complete pig's ear.
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Has any calc's been done around bit coin mining or data centres requirements or protected usage?
 
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Briles

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  • Oct 17, 2025
  • #57,725
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
But it's not just electricity prices is it. If we don't have net zero and the planet keeps getting hotter, how much are your food bills going to go up because of massive increased irrigation needs and crop failures? How much extra will we need to spend on the fire service and how much will repairing the damage those fires cause cost? It's not a standalone issue - it's interconnected to pretty much everything else.

And besides, a large part of electricity prices 'policy costs' are due to gas setting the wholesale price, not renewables.
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Won't have to have the heating on though
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Oct 17, 2025
  • #57,726
Briles said:
Won't have to have the heating on thoughView attachment 46621
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Nope, though the government are considering setting up a car trade-in scheme where you can get a guaranteed £5k for your knackered old car to put towards a new sailboat.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 17, 2025
  • #57,727
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Nope, though the government are considering setting up a car trade-in scheme where you can get a guaranteed £5k for your knackered old car to put towards a new sailboat.
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Oh blimey, Nothing but your bus fare home coming back.!
 
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Ian1779

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  • Oct 17, 2025
  • #57,728
Captain Dart said:
Your electricity bills are going to go up and up even if wholesale prices halve.
This is the data industry spokespersons presented to parliament.
The energy policy is a complete pig's ear.
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Interesting how they don’t flag the impact of the pointless standing charge here.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Oct 18, 2025
  • #57,729

Lovely to see people out canvassing for reform!
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 18, 2025
  • #57,730
Ccfcisparks said:

Lovely to see people out canvassing for reform!
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I was going to ask what crime is she guilty of with the'⁹on Trial ' instruction.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Oct 18, 2025
  • #57,731
wingy said:
I was going to ask what crime is she guilty of with the'⁹on Trial ' instruction.
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Its a male.
 
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wingy

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  • Oct 18, 2025
  • #57,732
Ccfcisparks said:
Its a male.
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Oh god, deffo time for new glasses then,or do we have to go through all that gender stuff again , Which I'm going to abstain on tbh?
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Oct 18, 2025
  • #57,733
Hahahaha fucking hell
 
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Sick Boy

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  • Oct 18, 2025
  • #57,734
wingy said:
Oh god, deffo time for new glasses then,or do we have to go through all that gender stuff again , Which I'm going to abstain on tbh?
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I thought he was a woman as well
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Oct 18, 2025
  • #57,735
Sick Boy said:
Hahahaha fucking hell
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the jumper apparently is of a anime child from a quite dodgy anime
 

chiefdave

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  • Oct 19, 2025
  • #57,736
This is kinda funny. After weeks of coming up with all sort of excuses not to have Polanski on it was announced earlier this week that he'd be on this Sunday. That led to loads of tweets that Kuenssberg wouldn't show up, and now ....

 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 19, 2025
  • #57,737
chiefdave said:
This is kinda funny. After weeks of coming up with all sort of excuses not to have Polanski on it was announced earlier this week that he'd be on this Sunday. That led to loads of tweets that Kuenssberg wouldn't show up, and now ....

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She said last week she was away
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Oct 19, 2025
  • #57,738
chiefdave said:
This is kinda funny. After weeks of coming up with all sort of excuses not to have Polanski on it was announced earlier this week that he'd be on this Sunday. That led to loads of tweets that Kuenssberg wouldn't show up, and now ....

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Excuses? Nobody wants that fucking creep on our screens apart from weirdos. Oh yeah let’s have a guy that wants open borders, no nuclear deterrent and used to previously say he could enlarge women’s breasts by hypnotising them.

@Sky Blue Pete said he’ll be voting them but we know what he’s like anyway, very odd
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 19, 2025
  • #57,739
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Excuses? Nobody wants that fucking creep on our screens apart from weirdos. Oh yeah let’s have a guy that wants open borders, no nuclear deterrent and used to previously say he could enlarge women’s breasts by hypnotising them.

@Sky Blue Pete said he’ll be voting them but we know what he’s like anyway, very odd
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Nope children are
They love Zarah too
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Oct 19, 2025
  • #57,740
Sky Blue Pete said:
Nope children are
They love Zarah too
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Christ almighty how embarrassing
 
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TomRad85

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  • Oct 19, 2025
  • #57,741
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Christ almighty
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I know you enjoy trolling on here but it's why it's barely worth engaging. Most on here think Reform are an extreme party but the likes of Polanski and Sultana are totally normal. There's not a lot you can do with that really. It's just better we know where we all stand and crack on talking about football.
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Oct 19, 2025
  • #57,742
TomRad85 said:
I know you enjoy trolling on here but it's why it's barely worth engaging. Most on here think Reform are an extreme party but the likes of Polanski and Sultana are totally normal. There's not a lot you can do with that really. It's just better we know where we all stand and crack on talking about football.
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I don’t enjoy trolling, I just enjoy laughing at how embarrassing most of the views and how one sided this forum is, yet in the real world it’s the complete opposite. Get laughed at once they put the computer down
 
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Grendel

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  • Oct 19, 2025
  • #57,743
God the jolly green twat is on the show as well
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Oct 19, 2025
  • #57,744
Grendel said:
God the jolly green twat is on the show as well
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Needs to take a trip to the nearest dentist, how’s he gonna sort out the country if he can’t even get them right
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 19, 2025
  • #57,745
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Needs to take a trip to the nearest dentist, how’s he gonna sort out the country if he can’t even get them right
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The politics of vanity bloody great
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Oct 19, 2025
  • #57,746
Sky Blue Pete said:
The politics of vanity bloody great
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He’s a dangerous clown, why are you such an idiot
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Oct 19, 2025
  • #57,747
TomRad85 said:
I know you enjoy trolling on here but it's why it's barely worth engaging. Most on here think Reform are an extreme party but the likes of Polanski and Sultana are totally normal. There's not a lot you can do with that really. It's just better we know where we all stand and crack on talking about football.
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I wouldn’t vote for any of them and am considered left wing on here. Sultana and Corbyn are people I washed my hands of some time ago, they’ve put their own egos above the causes they claim to care about. I also wouldn’t vote for Labour/Tories/Lib Dem either at this point in time. So I’d actually probably just not vote if an election were tomorrow.

Some of these parties recognise that people have been massively screwed over but have proposed (in my view) the completely wrong solutions and scapegoats. Others have the means to provide (again, in my view) the right answers but aren’t interested and others still both don’t recognise the problem and don’t have the gumption to tackle them anyway.

Looking at the polls and the general feeling I get out and about, I’m not stupid and can see I’m in the minority of opinion on what will improve the country and what won’t. It’s a pity as I think that strong centre left governments will do the most for a country like ours, but we haven’t had one for a good 25 years. Next to get in will be a party that in my opinion will make things much worse and I’m far from talking about just their immigration policies.

It’s a shitshow. Ignoring their independence policies the SNP are probably the closest in agreement to what I want to see overall. Perhaps we’d move back up there if push came to shove.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Oct 19, 2025
  • #57,748
SkyBlueDom26 said:
He’s a dangerous clown, why are you such an idiot
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Taking the piss out of someone’s teeth and what they look like
You’re a twat
 
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TomRad85

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  • Oct 19, 2025
  • #57,749
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I wouldn’t vote for any of them and am considered left wing on here. Sultana and Corbyn are people I washed my hands of some time ago, they’ve put their own egos above the causes they claim to care about. I also wouldn’t vote for Labour/Tories/Lib Dem either at this point in time. So I’d actually probably just not vote if an election were tomorrow.

Some of these parties recognise that people have been massively screwed over but have proposed (in my view) the completely wrong solutions and scapegoats. Others have the means to provide (again, in my view) the right answers but aren’t interested and others still both don’t recognise the problem and don’t have the gumption to tackle them anyway.

Looking at the polls and the general feeling I get out and about, I’m not stupid and can see I’m in the minority of opinion on what will improve the country and what won’t. It’s a pity as I think that strong centre left governments will do the most for a country like ours, but we haven’t had one for a good 25 years. Next to get in will be a party that in my opinion will make things much worse and I’m far from talking about just their immigration policies.

It’s a shitshow. Ignoring their independence policies the SNP are probably the closest in agreement to what I want to see overall. Perhaps we’d move back up there if push came to shove.
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I think my point is I'm never going to agree with your politics and you mine and that position hasn't changed for some years. If we kept going over that regularly we'd probably grow to dislike each other but ultimately I think you are one of the better characters on the forum. I actually think you put your point across more respectfully than many too I must say.
I'd like to think you and Dom could have a pint together but please don't do it without me witnessing it.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Oct 19, 2025
  • #57,750
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I wouldn’t vote for any of them and am considered left wing on here. Sultana and Corbyn are people I washed my hands of some time ago, they’ve put their own egos above the causes they claim to care about. I also wouldn’t vote for Labour/Tories/Lib Dem either at this point in time. So I’d actually probably just not vote if an election were tomorrow.

Some of these parties recognise that people have been massively screwed over but have proposed (in my view) the completely wrong solutions and scapegoats. Others have the means to provide (again, in my view) the right answers but aren’t interested and others still both don’t recognise the problem and don’t have the gumption to tackle them anyway.

Looking at the polls and the general feeling I get out and about, I’m not stupid and can see I’m in the minority of opinion on what will improve the country and what won’t. It’s a pity as I think that strong centre left governments will do the most for a country like ours, but we haven’t had one for a good 25 years. Next to get in will be a party that in my opinion will make things much worse and I’m far from talking about just their immigration policies.

It’s a shitshow. Ignoring their independence policies the SNP are probably the closest in agreement to what I want to see overall. Perhaps we’d move back up there if push came to shove.
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Can't argue with too much of that. I think so many people right now would quite happily not vote for anyone if they could. What are essentially supposed to be some of the most intelligent people in the country who act as politicians are just beyond useless and it is like a disease of incompetence.

It's also why I maintain however, that all of this 'everyone voting reform is racist' is just nonsense. A large part of it is a protest vote. The more they get antagonised, the more they're just going to do it. For a variety of reasons so many people in the UK are at breaking point and there are some that cannot understand that the only way they feel they can be heard is to join what is essentially a strange sort of rebellion. You can certainly argue with the what, but the why is clear for me.
 
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