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Sick Boy

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,701
rob9872 said:
I don't get it
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<groan>
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,702
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think taking a lot of Jesus Christ's views from the bible, he'd be considered a radical woke hard left communist by today's standards.

'It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.'
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Expelling traders from outside a temple too.
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,703
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Expelling traders from outside a temple too.
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Inside
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,704
Sky Blue Pete said:
Inside
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Indeed. My mistake.
 
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mmttww

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,705
Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think taking a lot of Jesus Christ's views from the bible, he'd be considered a radical woke hard left communist by today's standards.
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definitely a massive f*cking hippie, too with all that 'forgiveness' sh*t. Pacifist as well. Don't get why American hardliners bother their arse with him the more I think about it.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,706
mmttww said:
definitely a massive f*cking hippie, too with all that 'forgiveness' sh*t. Pacifist as well. Don't get why American hardliners bother their arse with him the more I think about it.
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'We need to restore Judeo-Christian values bruh'

“If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be. Take care lest there be an unworthy thought in your heart and you say, ‘The seventh year, the year of release is near,’ and your eye look grudgingly on your poor brother, and you give him nothing, and he cry to the Lord against you, and you be guilty of sin. You shall give to him freely, and your heart shall not be grudging when you give to him, because for this the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all that you undertake. For there will never cease to be poor in the land. Therefore I command you, ‘You shall open wide your hand to your brother, to the needy and to the poor, in your land.’
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mmttww

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,707
so basically, Jesus was woke and no one noticed. QED.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,708
Here is a great video from Triggernometry. Whilst it will probably fall on deaf ears, exactly like he says, I would still advise everyone to watch it.

 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,709
Brighton Sky Blue said:
'We need to restore Judeo-Christian values bruh'
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Amen brother
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,710
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Here is a great video from Triggernometry. Whilst it will probably fall on deaf ears, exactly like he says, I would still advise everyone to watch it.

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Turned it off after the first 15 seconds to be honest as it starts on a false premise. What did this gentleman have to say about January 6th, out of interest?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,711
Mucca Mad Boys said:
Sometimes, you need the shock therapy. We’re arguably already in a death spiral of raising taxes continually to fund a public sector that is no longer delivering basic services to a good standard. The tax burden is being shifted onto the productive sectors of the economy (private sector & wealth creators). This invariably hollows out the tax base and this will impact ordinary workers to pick up the bill.

Even during the period of ‘austerity’ total government spending increased. Many cuts were ‘real term cuts’ i.e. actual spending increases, just not in line with inflation. If government revenues aren’t increasing because the economy is stagnating, then the costs of running everything just gets higher which is what precisely happened.
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Going well I see


An experiment in disaster capitalism played out in real time
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,712
mmttww said:
definitely a massive f*cking hippie, too with all that 'forgiveness' sh*t. Pacifist as well. Don't get why American hardliners bother their arse with him the more I think about it
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I've often wondered what would happen if you introduced the Bible Belt of America to the teachings of Christ as laid out in the actual bible. Going by that Jesus would hate America.
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,713
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Turned it off after the first 15 seconds
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What a surprise.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,714
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
Here is a great video from Triggernometry. Whilst it will probably fall on deaf ears, exactly like he says, I would still advise everyone to watch it.

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What's he on about "the left" for? Who does he even mean?
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,715
Roughly nine minutes of a man wrestling with a teleprompter and explaining why he was right and everyone else was wrong - fascinating.
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,716
SBT said:
Roughly nine minutes of a man wrestling with a teleprompter and explaining why he was right and everyone else was wrong - fascinating.
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Sounds familiar
 

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,717
Earlsdon_Skyblue1 said:
What a surprise.
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Remind me what happened when Trump lost an election and what this wise old sage had to say about it.
 
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chiefdave

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,718
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Turned it off after the first 15 seconds to be honest as it starts on a false premise. What did this gentleman have to say about January 6th, out of interest?
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I stuck with it, by half way through I was convinced it was a parody, albeit a bad one. Turns out it's not.

Not sure what is supposed to make it the a "great video", its the same old tropes.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Sep 22, 2025
  • #56,719
chiefdave said:
I stuck with it, by half way through I was convinced it was a parody, albeit a bad one. Turns out it's not.

Not sure what is supposed to make it the a "great video", its the same old tropes.
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Another person who ascribes character traits to ‘the left’ based on their politics.

When the only man to try and prevent the transfer of power in the US is his orange hero.
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 23, 2025
  • #56,720
Nice to see Nige has moved on from 'let's get rid of all illegal immigrants' to "let's just kick out all foreigners '


Nigel Farage roundly condemned over plan to abolish indefinite leave to remain

Cross-party criticism after Reform UK leader threatens hundreds of thousands of legal immigrants with deportation
www.theguardian.com


 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 23, 2025
  • #56,721
fernandopartridge said:
Going well I see


An experiment in disaster capitalism played out in real time
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To be fair from what I’ve read the issue is that he can’t get the necessary measures through congress where he doesnt have a majority. The markets are concerned about ongoing uncertainty (support for Miles dropping due to corruption scandal) and losing faith he can deliver economic and spending reforms necessary to get them out the shit. Sounds like everywhere else, the right can’t keep their hand out the till and the left want to spend money they haven’t got

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/argentinas-peso-under-strain-mileis-agenda-faces-hurdles-2025-09-18/

www.reuters.com

Argentina's Milei says 'political panic' rattling markets

Argentine President Javier Milei blamed "political panic" for rattling markets Friday in the run-up to crucial midterm elections, sending the peso into a tailspin and hurting the country's sovereign…
www.france24.com
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Sep 23, 2025
  • #56,722
CCFCSteve said:
To be fair from what I’ve read the issue is that he can’t get the necessary measures through congress where he doesnt have a majority. The markets are concerned about ongoing uncertainty (support for Miles dropping due to corruption scandal) and losing faith he can deliver economic and spending reforms necessary to get them out the shit. Sounds like everywhere else, the right can’t keep their hand out the till and the left want to spend money they haven’t got

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/argentinas-peso-under-strain-mileis-agenda-faces-hurdles-2025-09-18/

www.reuters.com

Argentina's Milei says 'political panic' rattling markets

Argentine President Javier Milei blamed "political panic" for rattling markets Friday in the run-up to crucial midterm elections, sending the peso into a tailspin and hurting the country's sovereign…
www.france24.com
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Can you not see why it is different from the UK as the issuer of pounds sterling?
 
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CCFCSteve

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  • Sep 23, 2025
  • #56,723
fernandopartridge said:
Can you not see why it is different from the UK as the issuer of pounds sterling?
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??? I wasn’t comparing them to the uk. Other than a flippant comment about left and right across the world which i stand by

You were the one who had originally made the comparison linking MMBs post to argentinas current mess. I presumed you were suggesting it was due to Milei and his ‘disaster capitalism’ so I was explaining that from what I’ve read the problems run deeper ie they need to bee seen to be controlling spending which they can’t do because they don’t control congress and corruption in government is leading to uncertainty for markets. Sounds like they might need to float Peso but haven’t read enough into it to have an opinion
 
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PVA

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  • Sep 23, 2025
  • #56,724
I see things are still going well over at Your Party.

Legal threats, defamation, sexism, fractionalism. All before they've even come up with a name for the party.


Zarah Sultana drops legal threat in bitter feud with Corbyn over Your Party

Sultana said she would put the argument behind her ‘for the sake of the party’
www.independent.co.uk
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Sep 23, 2025
  • #56,725
PVA said:
I see things are still going well over at Your Party.

Legal threats, defamation, sexism, fractionalism. All before they've even come up with a name for the party.


Zarah Sultana drops legal threat in bitter feud with Corbyn over Your Party

Sultana said she would put the argument behind her ‘for the sake of the party’
www.independent.co.uk
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Still 750,000 people signed up to it. Corbyn still has appeal. Especially if McDonnell gets on board.
 
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mmttww

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  • Sep 23, 2025
  • #56,726
PVA said:
I see things are still going well over at Your Party.
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they might as well not bother now. No chance you persuade enough people to take you seriously and make it viable. Might ask for my £10 back.
 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 23, 2025
  • #56,727
mmttww said:
they might as well not bother now. No chance you persuade enough people to take you seriously and make it viable. Might ask for my £10 back.
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There is obviously a gap politically as there is no longer any party of the left at all. The greens have a maniac in charge so if Corbyn gets some actual strategists around him it will get support.
 
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SBT

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  • Sep 23, 2025
  • #56,728
Grendel said:
Still 750,000 people signed up to it. Corbyn still has appeal. Especially if McDonnell gets on board.
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I’m not sure the general public shares your thirst for McDonnell
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 23, 2025
  • #56,729
SBT said:
I’m not sure the general public shares your thirst for McDonnell
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Well they certainly have no thirst for Starmer or Reeves do they?
 
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SBT

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  • Sep 23, 2025
  • #56,730
Grendel said:
Well they certainly have no thirst for Starmer or Reeves do they?
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Clearly not. But the idea that people are waiting on McDonnell before deciding where to send their allegiances seems a bit odd. You have a very strange admiration of him.
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 23, 2025
  • #56,731
SBT said:
Clearly not. But the idea that people are waiting on McDonnell before deciding where to send their allegiances seems a bit odd. You have a very strange admiration of him.
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I didn’t actually say anyone is waiting. I said it would help Corbyn’s support by having another credible figure from the left on board. I don’t see what’s strange about my opinion of him at all. If he was 10 years younger he’d clearly be a viable alternative for the centrist nonsense we have in power now.
 
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SBT

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  • Sep 23, 2025
  • #56,732
Grendel said:
I didn’t actually say anyone is waiting. I said it would help Corbyn’s support by having another credible figure from the left on board. I don’t see what’s strange about my opinion of him at all. If he was 10 years younger he’d clearly be a viable alternative for the centrist nonsense we have in power now.
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Your opinion of him is very strange given you’ve written lengthy love letters about him on here, despite having once called him “the most dangerous man in politics who needs to be stopped”
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 23, 2025
  • #56,733
SBT said:
Your opinion of him is very strange given you’ve written lengthy love letters about him on here, despite having once called him “the most dangerous man in politics who needs to be stopped”
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What’s truly strange is your investigative journalist skills seem restricted to my posts on a football forum. Still when you are only doing horoscopes at the Basildon I guess you need something to do.

I hardly have written lengthy love letters have I. I have done a thread praising his integrity but I’ve always been opposed to his Sinn Fein suckuppery
 
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SBT

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  • Sep 23, 2025
  • #56,734
Grendel said:
What’s truly strange is your investigative journalist skills seem restricted to my posts on a football forum. Still when you are only doing horoscopes at the Basildon I guess you need something to do.

I hardly have written lengthy love letters have I. I have done a thread praising his integrity but I’ve always been opposed to his Sinn Fein suckuppery
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I remember when you used to be able to recall stuff that people had posted on here too - not anymore, I guess.

I’ll give your ode to Mr McDonnell another bump here now that you’re awaiting his political comeback - maybe someone will reply to it this time!

The Beige State of British Poitics

What a sad state of affairs British Politics has become The dreary budget and the half hearted attempts of responding to it illustrate this perfectly. Rishi Sunak appears to have morphed into Jim Bowen everything is great, incredible and look what you might have won. How exciting. Starmer has...
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Grendel

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  • Sep 23, 2025
  • #56,735
SBT said:
I remember when you used to be able to recall stuff that people had posted on here too - not anymore, I guess.

I’ll give your ode to Mr McDonnell another bump here now that you’re awaiting his political comeback - maybe someone will reply to it this time!

The Beige State of British Poitics

What a sad state of affairs British Politics has become The dreary budget and the half hearted attempts of responding to it illustrate this perfectly. Rishi Sunak appears to have morphed into Jim Bowen everything is great, incredible and look what you might have won. How exciting. Starmer has...
www.skybluestalk.co.uk
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Im well aware what I said? It’s not a love not it’s a desire for a return to conviction politics.

I said this as well

Who did you really dislike but now like?

In keeping with the other threads -and like may be a bit strong. However, politics in seems has for many years been a grey world with politicians wearing a party badge but all essentially droning out the same weak liberal messages. Really since conviction politicians like thatcher, foot and...
www.skybluestalk.co.uk

Is there no news at all in Basildon this week?
 
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