Do you want to discuss boring politics? (29 Viewers)

[ccfcno9]

How could we trust the competence of governments past and present to get this right?
I'm signed up to the NHS app, its been several years in development and still seriously flawed in my opinion. for instance I need life prolonging medication, yet the app can't be logged into when out of the country. My GP won't take calls for repeat prescriptions their policy is used the app! some service's are available others are not it dependant who administers it.
The ID as a mandatory requirement when various organisation have access (banks etc) to it is a complete no no to me.

 

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[ccfcno9]

Think Horizon !

 

[Mcbean]

And the most common theft in UK is phone theft - it’s a gift

 

[Grendel]

Seems to be people here who lose their minds whenever the subject comes up here but like you say in a lot of other countries it's the norm. The subject has come up a couple of times with friends from Europe who are always amazed we don't have anything in place here.

What is the point of it?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

How could we trust the competence of governments past and present to get this right?
I'm signed up to the NHS app, its been several years in development and still seriously flawed in my opinion. for instance I need life prolonging medication, yet the app can't be logged into when out of the country. My GP won't take calls for repeat prescriptions their policy is used the app! some service's are available others are not it dependant who administers it.
The ID as a mandatory requirement when various organisation have access (banks etc) to it is a complete no no to me.

I think it’s great the nhs app

 

[PVA]

And the most common theft in UK is phone theft - it’s a gift

Do you not have online banking on your phone?

 

[Evo1883]

Why do people want this ?

We have driving licences , passports , national insurance numbers ..

Another labour party fail

 

[Grendel]

Do you not have online banking on your phone?

Over 4 million don’t have a smart phone. How do they access an identity card?

 

[Nick]

I don't see the issue with it? Everything is all on systems anyway.

It's not like the olden days if you got pulled over you had to go to the station with your documents to be checked

Won't it just be a case of merging things somehow?

 

[Evo1883]

Over 4 million don’t have a smart phone. How do they access an identity card?

I imagine it will be a physical card .. like you said whats the point of it ?

 

[PVA]

Why do people want this ?

We have driving licences , passports , national insurance numbers ..

Another labour party fail

Well that's the point no? It centralises all in one place.

 

[Nick]

I imagine it will be a physical card .. like you said whats the point of it ?

Well yeah.

It's going to do fuck all to tackle illegal workers getting paid cash in hand.

 

[Grendel]

Well that's the point no? It centralises all in one place.

Its point is to stop illegal migration it seems. Hows that going to work? Sounds expensive as well.

 

[Evo1883]

Well that's the point no? It centralises all in one place.

Just put all those things into one place anyway ? Why add an ID card .. dont the government already do a onegov thing already ?

 

[Grendel]

I imagine it will be a physical card .. like you said whats the point of it ?

No it’s digital apparently

 

[Evo1883]

No it’s digital apparently

So the people that dont want to be on the system still won't be , so there isnt a point in it

 

[PVA]

Just put all those things into one place anyway ? Why add an ID card .. dont the government already do a onegov thing already ?

They are all separate things at the moment, this would potentially bring them all together.

Like in Estonia it's your ID and gives you access to healthcare and voting etc. How is that not more convenient?

 

[Grendel]

Great we are going to be like Estonia!

 

[Nick]

Its point is to stop illegal migration it seems. Hows that going to work? Sounds expensive as well.

Yeah I can't see how it is going to do that or cut down on black market workers.

If they wanted to do that they could save the money and hang about McDonald's for Uber eats drivers and car washes etc etc.

 

[Nick]

They are all separate things at the moment, this would potentially bring them all together.

Like in Estonia it's your ID and gives you access to healthcare and voting etc. How is that not more convenient?

Isn't that just my passport or driving license that can be used as id?

 

[Evo1883]

Great we are going to be like Estonia!

The bastion of modern brilliance

 

[PVA]

Great we are going to be like the pioneers of this technology!

Fixed for you, fucking idiot.

 

[Grendel]

Fixed for you, fucking idiot.

It’s you that’s wanking over Estonia and aiming to achieve their standards of identity

 

[Grendel]

The bastion of modern brilliance

I can’t wait. Perhaps we can even aim to be like Lithuania one day.

 

[PVA]

Isn't that just my passport or driving license that can be used as id?

Yes but with this you only need your phone and don't need however many cards.

Driving license/passport can be lost and cloned/used by someone else. Digital ID would be way more secure if you lost your phone.

 

[Grendel]

Yes but with this you only need your phone and don't need however many cards.

Driving license/passport can be lost and cloned/used by someone else. Digital ID would be way more secure if you lost your phone.

And the 5 million who don’t have a phone?

Dont think some countries will allow you in without a passport? Can Estonians travel the world with it on a smartphone?

 

[PVA]

I can’t wait. Perhaps we can even aim to be like Lithuania one day.

 

[Evo1883]

And the 5 million who don’t have a phone?

What if you dont fancy having a phone anymore ?

 

[Grendel]

Eh? I have all my apps on my phone.

Oddly it’s only you who seems to support it -what a surprise.

Starmer = goodie

PVA = suck up to Starmer and say it’s great

 

[Grendel]

What if you dont fancy having a phone anymore ?

I don’t think the man from Estonia has thought this through.

No need for passports - it’s all on the cloud!!

 

[mmttww]

Estonia is miles ahead of most places with a lot of day-to-day tech. stuff tbf and have been for a while.

 

[PVA]

What if you dont fancy having a phone anymore ?

Obviously there will be a physical card, but most people are going to have it on their phone

 

[PVA]

Estonia is miles ahead of most places with a lot of day-to-day tech. stuff tbf and have been for a while.

Yes just Grendel being an ignorant prick as per.

 

[Evo1883]

Obviously there will be a physical card, but most people are going to have it on their phone

I know .. will I no longer need a driving license , passport or driver card anymore .. can I put my season ticket on it ?

 

[PVA]

Eh? I have all my apps on my phone.

Oddly it’s only you who seems to support it -what a surprise.

Starmer = goodie

PVA = suck up to Starmer and say it’s great

It's not only me is it ffs

Nick, who quite obviously has no time for Starmer, says it makes sense