I liked it at 17.5% as I could still calculate it in my head and everyone thinks it's some kind of wizardry. Any halfwit can calculate 20%
The one thing I expect from socialists is for them to pay the right amount tax because they lecture us on the costs of people not paying enough tax…
It just so happens Rayner’s political career is built on taxing the 1% more.
And she is paying the right amount of tax. She got advice. Paid the amount she was told. Got told the advice was wrong. Got new advice. Paid the new amount.
At no point has she tried to avoid tax. Read the statement and tell me at what point exactly you think she intentionally avoided tax.
As I said anyone who has had kids through divorce knows the question of “what’s your primary address” isn’t simple and consistent especially with a nesting arrangement like she had.
It’s Hove, actually.Of course she tried to avoid tax.
it’s nothing to do with primary address it’s if this is a second home.
Putting a property into a form of discretionary trust it itself is odd. It’s pretty obvious it was created with the intention of avoiding tax on a second property by claiming she doesn’t own the other one.
She then withdrew £165,000 out the trust to pay on the second home. So by definition she has BIK on the property as she has power of withdrawal. Her ex spouse clearly has as well so they have BIK on it. There is no way on earth a discussion when setting this trust up wasn’t had regarding tax implications if either trustee purchased another property. No way.
So it’s no different than people who form such trusts to avoid IHT - something Reeves is committed to stopping.
It’s a tax avoidance strategy - her nesting arrangements have nothing to do with it. The minute she extracted money from the trust while remaining a trustee shows it as such.
I’m as I’ve said sure her PR team said she was paying double council tax on the Brighton home so by every definition it’s a second home
Was she wrong to criticise Jeremy Hunt for saving on stamp duty using a tax ‘loophole?’And she is paying the right amount of tax. She got advice. Paid the amount she was told. Got told the advice was wrong. Got new advice. Paid the new amount.
At no point has she tried to avoid tax. Read the statement and tell me at what point exactly you think she intentionally avoided tax.
As I said anyone who has had kids through divorce knows the question of “what’s your primary address” isn’t simple and consistent especially with a nesting arrangement like she had.
Funnily enough, Angela Rayner was outraged enough to call for him to resign…I think the fact that many people are more outraged by Rayner being hypocritical than they were by Matt Hancock giving his pal 40 million quid goes a long way to explaining the state of the country.
Funnily enough, Angela Rayner was outraged enough to call for him to resign…
Anyone involved in a scandal of this nature will get the heat. Rayner is no different and accusations of sexism or classism will wash.
The whole 'Beer Korma' nonsense was an attempt at false equivalence of violating Covid restrictions.I haven't said otherwise, I expect she will resign too.
My point was more people seem more angry about this than they did about Hancock and pals siphoning off millions of pounds to their mates.
In fact more people got more angry about Keir Starmer getting some new glasses than they did about Hancock
I haven't said otherwise, I expect she will resign too.
My point was more people seem more angry about this than they did about Hancock and pals siphoning off millions of pounds to their mates.
In fact more people got more angry about Keir Starmer getting some new glasses than they did about Hancock
I think the fact that many people are more outraged by Rayner being hypocritical than they were by Matt Hancock giving his pal 40 million quid goes a long way to explaining the state of the country.
Mind you in clown state Britain Boy George keeps having a go at JK Rowling for her views on womens spaces so she counters by pointing out he got convicted for chaining a male prostitute to a radiator.Mmmm
At least we can all agree on one thing: everybody hates Matt Hancock
Boy George was right. “You’re really going to get it.” A year ago, in the dappled green of the well-lit telly jungle, the lead singer of Culture Club uttered thwww.thetimes.com
That's a slam dunk if ever there was one.Mind you in clown state Britain Boy George keeps having a go at JK Rowling for her views on womens spaces so she counters by pointing out he got convicted for chaining a male prostitute to a radiator.
Exactly. A basic stamp duty calculator would have told her she owed £70,000. If she was altruistic and consistent in her beliefs, she’d have paid it in full as a duty to the state. After all, she’s on record saying ‘tax avoidance costs lives’ and she’s already been accused of avoiding CTG on a property.I don’t even mind Rayner but there’s no going back if you make a stand on demanding others resign for tax indiscretion. There’s no sliding scale either - you try and avoid it or you don’t.
It’s no different to Dianne Abbott and the private school shambles. She dug herself deeper and deeper and ended up in ridicule
Was she wrong to criticise Jeremy Hunt for saving on stamp duty using a tax ‘loophole?’
Or calling for Nadhim Zahawi to resign over a ‘tax error’ when chancellor?
Angela Rayner did both so why should she be forgiven when she did not afford her opponents the same courtesy?
I’m sure both Hunt and Zahawi sought advice to reduce their tax liabilities. So did Angela Rayner but she masquerades as a ‘working class hero’ who wants to increase the tax burden on everyone but her. Again, she was investigated in 2024 over a CTG of selling a second property and she got off on a technicality. In government, the scrutiny is harsher and she got caught out this time.
If Angela Rayner wanted to scrap stamp duty, I’d be far more sympathetic. She doesn’t and her government is mulling levying CTG on family homes, applying NI to rental income and reducing the thresholds stamp duty is paid.
To echo Rayner’s favourite phrase, it’s one rule for them, one rule for us.
The greatest outcome here is that the UK no longer has to dread the prospect of this individual ever becoming PM.
Again Zahawi avoided paying tax on tens of millions over years by setting up off shore companies and threatening anyone who investigated until the HMRC caught up with him. Rayner took advice on a non-standard living situation paid what she was told and when told that was wrong paid some more. Only a simpleton or someone not arguing in good faith would pretend they’re the same.
You lot on the right always try this because you think secretly the left wants less taxes as well and are being hypocrites so you’ll twist anything to fit that narrative but any honest reading just doesn’t add up like that here. Rayner has not tried to avoid tax on anything like the scale the average Tory did. You just don’t like her.
The Torygraph have dropped an exclusive where Rayner’s solicitors have denied giving her tax advice. This ‘bad advice’ argument seems to be disproved.
This isn't about Zahawi.Again Zahawi avoided paying tax on tens of millions over years by setting up off shore companies and threatening anyone who investigated until the HMRC caught up with him. Rayner took advice on a non-standard living situation paid what she was told and when told that was wrong paid some more. Only a simpleton or someone not arguing in good faith would pretend they’re the same.
You lot on the right always try this because you think secretly the left wants less taxes as well and are being hypocrites so you’ll twist anything to fit that narrative but any honest reading just doesn’t add up like that here. Rayner has not tried to avoid tax on anything like the scale the average Tory did. You just don’t like her.
People are only holding Angela Rayner to her own standards and her mates in government and the media (Beth Rigby) are upset about it.This isn't about Zahawi.
The Tory part chairman is claiming that gov.uk provides clear guidance that the full second home stamp duty is payable if ‘you/your child’ owns a property even via a trust. She took her name off the deed fairly recently which raised eyebrows before this story broke. Why? It feels dodgy because it most certainly is.
Just mention £20bn black hole and you win the argument.Again Zahawi avoided paying tax on tens of millions over years by setting up off shore companies and threatening anyone who investigated until the HMRC caught up with him. Rayner took advice on a non-standard living situation paid what she was told and when told that was wrong paid some more. Only a simpleton or someone not arguing in good faith would pretend they’re the same.
You lot on the right always try this because you think secretly the left wants less taxes as well and are being hypocrites so you’ll twist anything to fit that narrative but any honest reading just doesn’t add up like that here. Rayner has not tried to avoid tax on anything like the scale the average Tory did. You just don’t like her.
That’s now £50bn after one year of Labour and it’s all because of the Tories…Just mention £20bn black hole and you win the argument.
The Tory part chairman is claiming that gov.uk provides clear guidance that the full second home stamp duty is payable if ‘you/your child’ owns a property even via a trust. She took her name off the deed fairly recently which raised eyebrows before this story broke. Why? It feels dodgy because it most certainly is.
The ‘bad advice’ excuse is embarrassing and the reality might be much worse: that she didn’t seek any legal advice. She claimed she received legal advice from the conveyancer and that was a lie.
I told my wife the other day what I thought had happened and it is looking increasingly likely that I was correct.
I reckon the Licensed Conveyancers will have completed the SDLT return and in doing so will have asked AR if she owned any other properties and she told them that she didn't. That could have been a deliberate attempt to evade tax, which is fraud, or a stupid error.
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