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fatso

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  • Aug 28, 2025
  • #55,126
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We have British Gas making enormous profits while using random number generators to decide people’s bills. They should be taxed through the nose.
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The cost of which they would pass on to their customers.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 28, 2025
  • #55,127
fatso said:
The cost of which they would pass on to their customers.
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They’re price gouging their customers and raking it in while pleading that they have no choice. Tax the bastards
 
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skybluetony176

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  • Aug 28, 2025
  • #55,128
The 2% shows exactly why privatisation has failed. The consumer directly has to cover private companies investment in energy generation plus it’s the only reason any investment is made in the cheapest form of energy in the first place. Energy providers are only interested in selling you the highest possible rate at the smallest possible investment. Which brings us to Ofgem. Successive governments have hidden behind Ofgem setting the price cap as if they can’t change the way Ofgem calculates the cap. They can, they just choose not too.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 28, 2025
  • #55,129
Brighton Sky Blue said:
We have British Gas making enormous profits while using random number generators to decide people’s bills. They should be taxed through the nose.
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They are

What is the windfall tax on oil and gas companies and how much do they pay? - BBC News

The government is increasing the windfall tax on oil and gas companies and extending it to March 2029.
www.bbc.com


fatso said:
The cost of which they would pass on to their customers.
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That’s not how windfall taxes work
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Aug 28, 2025
  • #55,130
fatso said:
The cost of which they would pass on to their customers.
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They're making obscene profits increasing all the time and yet we're constantly told it's because of the cost of energy production.

If that were the case then profits would largely remain the same. They're taking the piss.

If they don't like it then nationalise it and not let them make any money to tax in the first place. We could use those massive dividend payouts to actually improve the energy network instead.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #55,131
I trained as a teacher in 2006, a part of my training was writing an essay on why white British boys were underperforming and how we could apply lessons from other groups like Bangladeshi girls where we’d raised educational performance.

The idea that The Telegraph has just discovered this fact hidden by the liberal elite is just pure unadulterated bullshit designed only to stoke racial tensions.

 
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Ian1779

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #55,132
shmmeee said:
I trained as a teacher in 2006, a part of my training was writing an essay on why white British boys were underperforming and how we could apply lessons from other groups like Bangladeshi girls where we’d raised educational performance.

The idea that The Telegraph has just discovered this fact hidden by the liberal elite is just pure unadulterated bullshit designed only to stoke racial tensions.

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It’s literally been a target group for years in school. Resources and strategy employed specifically to this cohort to close the gap with little success.
There is a far deeper underlying reason for this, and as you say to reduce it to simple race baiting is abhorrent.
 
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tisza

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #55,133
shmmeee said:
I trained as a teacher in 2006, a part of my training was writing an essay on why white British boys were underperforming and how we could apply lessons from other groups like Bangladeshi girls where we’d raised educational performance.

The idea that The Telegraph has just discovered this fact hidden by the liberal elite is just pure unadulterated bullshit designed only to stoke racial tensions.

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so what did you write in your essay? Genuine question
 
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PVA

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #55,134
shmmeee said:
I trained as a teacher in 2006, a part of my training was writing an essay on why white British boys were underperforming and how we could apply lessons from other groups like Bangladeshi girls where we’d raised educational performance.

The idea that The Telegraph has just discovered this fact hidden by the liberal elite is just pure unadulterated bullshit designed only to stoke racial tensions.

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Oh god, it's Allister Heath.

Rarely has one man been so wrong about so many things.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #55,135
Ian1779 said:
It’s literally been a target group for years in school. Resources and strategy employed specifically to this cohort to close the gap with little success.
There is a far deeper underlying reason for this, and as you say to reduce it to simple race baiting is abhorrent.
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The book ‘Boys don’t try’ is a brilliant book that addresses just this and transformed my teaching practice.
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #55,136
tisza said:
so what did you write in your essay? Genuine question
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Now considering this was before I’d actually done any teaching. IIRC I suggested applying the same community engagement strategies around raising the importance of education among parents, what I saw was a culture that didn’t think their kids needed education in a similar way to but for very different reasons to the parents of Bangladeshi girls. But there’s a bit of everything looks like a nail when you’re 24 and presented with a case study where an intervention worked.

But that general idea was backed up a bit. Generally the issues around family makeup that for example were an issue for Afro Caribbean boys aren’t there for white working class boys. And immigrant communities like asians manage to be poor and still instil an understanding of the importance of education in their kids.

I think there’s also structural failing for boys generally. But white British working class is above and beyond that.
 
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Ian1779

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #55,137
Brighton Sky Blue said:
The book ‘Boys don’t try’ is a brilliant book that addresses just this and transformed my teaching practice.
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I’ll check it out. Ironically I’ve found the girls far more of a challenge when it comes to disengagement over the last 3/4 years
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 31, 2025
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Ian1779 said:
I’ll check it out. Ironically I’ve found the girls far more of a challenge when it comes to disengagement over the last 3/4 years
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The book’s written by two blokes who underachieved at school then became teachers. They do a good job of distilling the research into practical advice and it’s a quick read, doable in a day.

The nuts and bolts of it are that boys, especially white working class ones, are under an insane level of peer pressure and being ‘seen’ to be academic goes right against it. The tendency to go ‘all boys like x or y’ by teachers gets covered too.
 
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Grendel

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #55,139
shmmeee said:
Now considering this was before I’d actually done any teaching. IIRC I suggested applying the same community engagement strategies around raising the importance of education among parents, what I saw was a culture that didn’t think their kids needed education in a similar way to but for very different reasons to the parents of Bangladeshi girls. But there’s a bit of everything looks like a nail when you’re 24 and presented with a case study where an intervention worked.

But that general idea was backed up a bit. Generally the issues around family makeup that for example were an issue for Afro Caribbean boys aren’t there for white working class boys. And immigrant communities like asians manage to be poor and still instil an understanding of the importance of education in their kids.

I think there’s also structural failing for boys generally. But white British working class is above and beyond that.
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Did you get a gold star for your essay?
 
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CovValleyBoy

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #55,140
shmmeee said:
I trained as a teacher in 2006, a part of my training was writing an essay on why white British boys were underperforming and how we could apply lessons from other groups like Bangladeshi girls where we’d raised educational performance.

The idea that The Telegraph has just discovered this fact hidden by the liberal elite is just pure unadulterated bullshit designed only to stoke racial tensions.

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"I trained as a teacher." Yawn.
& look at the result !
 
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SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #55,141
shmmeee said:
I trained as a teacher in 2006, a part of my training was writing an essay on why white British boys were underperforming and how we could apply lessons from other groups like Bangladeshi girls where we’d raised educational performance.

The idea that The Telegraph has just discovered this fact hidden by the liberal elite is just pure unadulterated bullshit designed only to stoke racial tensions.

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Imagine having someone like you as a teacher, Christ
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #55,142
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Imagine having someone like you as a teacher, Christ
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Teacher admitting to using illegal drugs is disgusting
 

Ian1779

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #55,143
SkyBlueDom26 said:
Imagine having someone like you as a teacher, Christ
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Feel free to step up anytime chump….
 

SkyBlueDom26

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  • Aug 31, 2025
  • #55,144
Ian1779 said:
Feel free to step up anytime chump….
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shmmeee

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  • Sep 1, 2025
  • #55,145
This really nails the issues I have with the BBC reporting particularly local reporting on a lot of stuff. Both Reed and Gilbert had/have this view of local reporting just being that everything is shit and hyping up fringe weirdos with complaints.

The BBC's war on the Universal theme park

A theme park is being built in Bedfordshire with widespread public support, but the BBC are having none of it.
martinrobbins.substack.com
 
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SBT

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  • Sep 1, 2025
  • #55,146
shmmeee said:
This really nails the issues I have with the BBC reporting particularly local reporting on a lot of stuff. Both Reed and Gilbert had/have this view of local reporting just being that everything is shit and hyping up fringe weirdos with complaints.

The BBC's war on the Universal theme park

A theme park is being built in Bedfordshire with widespread public support, but the BBC are having none of it.
martinrobbins.substack.com
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Surprised that he’s blaming the BBC for this - local journalism (and indeed local politics) has always been a haven for NIMBYs and do-gooders.

I don’t have any stats but despite the existence of the articles listed above (not all of which are anything like as negative as he implies they are btw) I would personally be surprised if the overall tenor of the theme park coverage has been anything other than overwhelmingly positive.
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 1, 2025
  • #55,147
SBT said:
Surprised that he’s blaming the BBC for this - local journalism (and indeed local politics) has always been a haven for NIMBYs and do-gooders.

I don’t have any stats but despite the existence of the articles listed above (not all of which are anything like as negative as he implies they are btw) I would personally be surprised if the overall tenor of the theme park coverage has been anything other than overwhelmingly positive.
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Think it’s more local reporting in general which just so happens to come under BBC. There seems to be a reliance on pressure groups and what comes through the planning system for stories where every single development be it bike lanes or houses or whatever is framed with a bunch of angry boomers or some local crank with an axe to grind.
 
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SBT

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  • Sep 1, 2025
  • #55,148
shmmeee said:
Think it’s more local reporting in general which just so happens to come under BBC. There seems to be a reliance on pressure groups and what comes through the planning system for stories where every single development be it bike lanes or houses or whatever is framed with a bunch of angry boomers or some local crank with an axe to grind.
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Well it wasn’t always that way - I generally find the BBC’s local coverage to be more even-handed and less sensationalist than the other local-centric news outlets, most of whom barely exist anymore. Which is why I find it odd this blog post focuses solely on the BBC as if this is a new invention of theirs.
 

chiefdave

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  • Sep 1, 2025
  • #55,149
shmmeee said:
Think it’s more local reporting in general which just so happens to come under BBC. There seems to be a reliance on pressure groups and what comes through the planning system for stories where every single development be it bike lanes or houses or whatever is framed with a bunch of angry boomers or some local crank with an axe to grind.
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The BBC are just on the hook for funding the sevice aren't they? For which they get the option to republish the content.

The editorial side of things is down to whichever local publication they work for, so in our case the Telegraph, and we all know the standard of that is piss poor.
 

duffer

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  • Sep 1, 2025
  • #55,150
shmmeee said:
This really nails the issues I have with the BBC reporting particularly local reporting on a lot of stuff. Both Reed and Gilbert had/have this view of local reporting just being that everything is shit and hyping up fringe weirdos with complaints.

The BBC's war on the Universal theme park

A theme park is being built in Bedfordshire with widespread public support, but the BBC are having none of it.
martinrobbins.substack.com
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Could it be that they're only "fringe weirdos" and "angry boomers" because they're complaining about something being done in their area which they dislike, but you support?
 

duffer

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  • Sep 1, 2025
  • #55,151
In the meantime then, Coventry City Council is busy handing over half-a-million pounds to Palantir.

Coventry council to use Palantir AI in social work, Send and children’s services

Exclusive: Workers say £500k contract with US tech firm which supplies Israeli forces raises ‘serious ethical questions’
www.theguardian.com

If you weren't aware, Palantir are involved in directly supporting the Israeli military in Gaza and elsewhere.

How this fits the council's ethical supplier policy is beyond me, but regardless, personally speaking I think it stinks.

Why would we give money to a company actively involved in the killing of children in Gaza?
 
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chiefdave

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  • Sep 2, 2025
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Absolute landslide, 85% of the vote. Apparently the first time the Greens have voted an incumbent leader out.

 
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Grendel

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  • Sep 2, 2025
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chiefdave said:
Absolute landslide, 85% of the vote. Apparently the first time the Greens have voted an incumbent leader out.

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lol that guy is a right wanker
 

shmmeee

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  • Sep 2, 2025
  • #55,154
chiefdave said:
Absolute landslide, 85% of the vote. Apparently the first time the Greens have voted an incumbent leader out.

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All Hail Hypnotits
 
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Captain Dart

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  • Sep 2, 2025
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chiefdave said:
Absolute landslide, 85% of the vote. Apparently the first time the Greens have voted an incumbent leader out.

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Comedy gold.
 

rob9872

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  • Sep 2, 2025
  • #55,156
chiefdave said:
Absolute landslide, 85% of the vote. Apparently the first time the Greens have voted an incumbent leader out.

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Great adaptation of Macbeth and appears to have come a long way since raping kids so fair play.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • Sep 2, 2025
  • #55,157
rob9872 said:
Great adaptation of Macbeth and appears to have come a long way since raping kids so fair play.
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What????!!!!!!
 

Grendel

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  • Sep 2, 2025
  • #55,158
Sky Blue Pete said:
What????!!!!!!
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Come on -- work it out.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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  • #55,159
Grendel said:
Come on -- work it out.
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Please tell me
 

Grendel

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Sky Blue Pete said:
Please tell me
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