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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,021
Nick said:
Polls people sign up for so already have an interest (either way).
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Well done Nick, you’ve conquered the field of psephology on your first day. What’s next?
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,022
Lazy overpaid computer programmers get away with it again

 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,023
shmmeee said:
This has never been true. It wasn’t true of shy Tories either. Anecdotally I’ve never known a reform voter not make it very clear. Second only to vegans in that respect.

They have a full cross section of society. That’s literally how polling works. You recruit a representative sample of the population you are studying. They go out via different means (YouGov) including putting ads in papers and have specific groups of people in specific demographics then where they can’t find enough weight them higher to compensate.

Have a read: Q&A: How do opinion polls work? - BBC News
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But how do you know? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I've never even seen an advert so what papers is it in? Who from the streets of Wood End (no offence to residents on here, just an example) do you think is reading it and registering?

I could easily be persuaded to vote Reform if I believed in the leaders or that they weren't a one policy party. As I said nobody I know gets involved. I've played football, pool, got mates from all walks from footie trips or social groups, worked with hundreds of different people too. Most of them despite a 1500 page thread from a few like minded on here couldn't actually give a flying fek about politics. It's almost never discussed and I'd be amazed if many of them could name more than a couple of members of the cabinet. It's why Brexit was a surprise to lots and also the last huge major Conservative landslide. This recent Labour win was predicted because the Tories were so hated, but even then a lot of seats were won without a huge number of voters or turnout.
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,024
shmmeee said:
Lazy overpaid computer programmers get away with it again

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'Male' footballers
So footballers then
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,025
76% of people think MP's are overpaid. FFS!!!
 
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CCFCSteve

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,026
rob9872 said:
76% of people think MP's are overpaid. FFS!!!
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Let’s be honest a lot of the country quite frankly havent got a clue….and that’s being kind. ‘Company directors’ is a strange banding but a lot of company directors are owner managers of SME businesses, which are the lifeblood of this country, employing vast amounts of people. I’ve known many directors of SMEs over the years that have forgone their own salaries if their business was struggling for cash. Basically keeping their businesses alive, paying employees salaries to their own personal detriment
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,027
shmmeee said:
Well done Nick, you’ve conquered the field of psephology on your first day. What’s next?
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I'm going to go out into the real world and do social activities while you probably obsess over a poll or fill them out.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,028
rob9872 said:
But how do you know? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I've never even seen an advert so what papers is it in? Who from the streets of Wood End (no offence to residents on here, just an example) do you think is reading it and registering?

I could easily be persuaded to vote Reform if I believed in the leaders or that they weren't a one policy party. As I said nobody I know gets involved. I've played football, pool, got mates from all walks from footie trips or social groups, worked with hundreds of different people too. Most of them despite a 1500 page thread from a few like minded on here couldn't actually give a flying fek about politics. It's almost never discussed and I'd be amazed if many of them could name more than a couple of members of the cabinet. It's why Brexit was a surprise to lots and also the last huge major Conservative landslide. This recent Labour win was predicted because the Tories were so hated, but even then a lot of seats were won without a huge number of voters or turnout.
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Same for me. I've never talked about politics down the pub. It's just not one of those things that happens. I couldn't tell you if or who they vote for.

But if an opt in poll of a tiny percent of the population says so though....
 
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SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,029
Nick said:
I'm going to go out into the real world and do social activities while you probably obsess over a poll or fill them out.
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@shmmeee was out telling people to ‘go outside’ earlier in the week, sad wanker has already posted 6000 times today.
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,030
Nick said:
Same for me. I've never talked about politics down the pub. It's just not one of those things that happens. I couldn't tell you if or who they vote for.

But if an opt in poll of a tiny percent of the population says so though....
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Yeah, I usually avoid politics entirely, unless they're close friends.
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,031
rob9872 said:
But how do you know? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I've never even seen an advert so what papers is it in? Who from the streets of Wood End (no offence to residents on here, just an example) do you think is reading it and registering?

I could easily be persuaded to vote Reform if I believed in the leaders or that they weren't a one policy party. As I said nobody I know gets involved. I've played football, pool, got mates from all walks from footie trips or social groups, worked with hundreds of different people too. Most of them despite a 1500 page thread from a few like minded on here couldn't actually give a flying fek about politics. It's almost never discussed and I'd be amazed if many of them could name more than a couple of members of the cabinet. It's why Brexit was a surprise to lots and also the last huge major Conservative landslide. This recent Labour win was predicted because the Tories were so hated, but even then a lot of seats were won without a huge number of voters or turnout.
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People need to stop interacting with him, if nobody replies he’ll eventually go outside and get a taste of fresh air. Can’t think the super model is happy with you constantly being on here is she? @shmmeee
 

Chicken Mcgraw

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,032
SkyBlueDom26 said:
People need to stop interacting with him, if nobody replies he’ll eventually go outside and get a taste of fresh air. Can’t think the super model is happy with you constantly being on here is she? @shmmeee
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Boosh has liked this post, add one to your reaction score
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,033
shmmeee said:
Lazy overpaid computer programmers get away with it again

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How much do people think male footballers should be paid, when the sport is more wildly popular than ever? Are ticket prices and rights deals also going to fall?
 

rob9872

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,034
SBT said:
How much do people think male footballers should be paid, when the sport is more wildly popular than ever? Are ticket prices and rights deals also going to fall?
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They should be paid according to supply and demand just like every other entertainment industry.

Edit: presumably as with actors, it was only put in the list to be provocative knowing the result before it was even polled. Can you imagine if nurses and cares weren't at the bottom of that too? It's just an emotional list that almost 100% of the people on here could have guessed at the order without the need for it ... if it ever actually happened of course.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,035
rob9872 said:
But how do you know? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I've never even seen an advert so what papers is it in? Who from the streets of Wood End (no offence to residents on here, just an example) do you think is reading it and registering?

I could easily be persuaded to vote Reform if I believed in the leaders or that they weren't a one policy party. As I said nobody I know gets involved. I've played football, pool, got mates from all walks from footie trips or social groups, worked with hundreds of different people too. Most of them despite a 1500 page thread from a few like minded on here couldn't actually give a flying fek about politics. It's almost never discussed and I'd be amazed if many of them could name more than a couple of members of the cabinet. It's why Brexit was a surprise to lots and also the last huge major Conservative landslide. This recent Labour win was predicted because the Tories were so hated, but even then a lot of seats were won without a huge number of voters or turnout.
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I almost never talk about politics in a social situation. It's not the right setting. We're there to enjoy ourselves and talking about how shit everything is isn't conducive to that. Doesn't mean I don't care about politics. Or that they don't either. We don't talk about our earnings either, doesn't mean we don't care about how much we get paid.
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,036
MPs too….supposedly the root of all this country’s ills (apart from immigrants ofc). But we also want to pay them less?
 
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SBT

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,037
rob9872 said:
They should be paid according to supply and demand just like every other entertainment industry.
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Well yeah, supply is extremely limited and demand is through the roof. If 30,000 people are paying £30 to watch second division football every other week, who else should get the money….Doug?
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,038
SBT said:
How much do people think male footballers should be paid, when the sport is more wildly popular than ever? Are ticket prices and rights deals also going to fall?
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I’d rather the money that the industry generates went to the workers than pretty much anyone else in so, yeah. But equally there’s a good shout that the clubs can’t afford it as is.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,039
SBT said:
MPs too….supposedly the root of all this country’s ills (apart from immigrants ofc). But we also want to pay them less?
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That’ll teach them
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,040
rob9872 said:
'Male' footballers
So footballers then
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35% of people think women footballers are underpaid. Where do they want the money to pay them to come from? Like care workers and teachers fair enough we decide that. Are we going to state subsidise the WPL?
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,041
Nick said:
I'm going to go out into the real world and do social activities while you probably obsess over a poll or fill them out.
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Haha you’re the one saying you’d run a mile if the phone rang and an old lady asked who you were voting for.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,042
The most common nationalities coming to the UK in 2024 from non-EU countries were Indian, Pakistani, Chinese and Nigerian, external.


The top two reasons for wanting to live in the UK was for work or study, external.


In 2015, the year before the Brexit referendum, the top nationalities coming to work were Romanian, Polish, Italian and Spanish, external.
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lol
 
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Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,043
PVA said:



lol
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What were the overall nationalities in 2024?
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,044
SkyBlueDom26 said:
4 replies within a few minutes, ‘go outside’
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To be fair if I lived where he does I’d stay inside
 

SkyBlueDom26

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,045
Grendel said:
To be fair if I lived where he does I’d stay inside
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I’ve never known someone spend and post so much on a forum, it’s quite frankly embarrassing! Still if it attracts super models then @shmmeee must be doing something right the saddo
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,046
Anyway what's happened to the energy tax, shouldn't it be going down as it's effect on other prices has almost returned to pre war level's, don't these temporary shocks go down as well as up?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,047
shmmeee said:
Haha you’re the one saying you’d run a mile if the phone rang and an old lady asked who you were voting for.
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Where did I say that?

It would probably get screened and ignored to be fair.
 

Ian1779

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,048
rob9872 said:
76% of people think MP's are overpaid. FFS!!!
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I think they are underpaid, but I’d also give them a flat salary of 150K and abolish expenses as well as banning 2nd jobs. Give them a flat in Westminster like some souped up student hall and get them doing what they should be doing - serving the people they represent not their own interests.
 
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 22, 2025
  • #55,049
Ian1779 said:
I think they are underpaid, but I’d also give them a flat salary of 150K and abolish expenses as well as banning 2nd jobs. Give them a flat in Westminster like some souped up student hall and get them doing what they should be doing - serving the people they represent not their own interests.
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I'd be fine with that.

Always felt that there sound be accommodation provided in Westminster and the constituency for the MP owned by the state rather than expenses and allowances for property that they use to flip for a profit.

Still have the issue of them setting themselves up for posts in industry after politics with lobbying etc. and serving business rather than constituents best interests but it would be a start.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 23, 2025
  • #55,050
Good stuff

Plan for wind developers to pay for skilled job training

New requirement for offshore wind developers to pay for skills training in their local communities.
www.gov.uk
 
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shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 24, 2025
  • #55,051
Dom coming out hard against vocational education



Oh I wonder who negotiated this?

 
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 25, 2025
  • #55,052
Given Shmmeees love for graphs and polls I’m surprised he hasn’t shared this

Political favourability ratings, August 2025 | YouGov

Net favourability gap between Conservatives and Labour smallest in nearly four years
yougov.co.uk

Even half his own voters don’t think he’s doing a good job
 

Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 25, 2025
  • #55,053
Grendel said:
Given Shmmeees love for graphs and polls I’m surprised he hasn’t shared this

Political favourability ratings, August 2025 | YouGov

Net favourability gap between Conservatives and Labour smallest in nearly four years
yougov.co.uk

Even half his own voters don’t think he’s doing a good job
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Two thirds of the population are 'enabling fascism' he'll probably say.
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 25, 2025
  • #55,054

Who does he think you have to ask at the moment?
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 25, 2025
  • #55,055
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Two thirds of the population are 'enabling fascism' he'll probably say.
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I’m guessing he is me as it’s a Grendel post.
 
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