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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 7:04 PM
  • #54,496
Grendel said:
Obviously yes but it’s bit helpful as these people have been admitted to the country and provided accommodation - they are likely to have done this before - how is that helpful?
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What do you mean? All people on boats are guilty of child rape
 

chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 7:04 PM
  • #54,497
GIMOC said:
1000s of undocumented men are entering the country being housed or occupying hotels and raping girls

if that doesn’t anger you and instead trying to justify it then imo you are part of the problem

Here’s some stats. rapes in Uk rising year by year and Afghan have the highest rate

see the correlation?View attachment 44984View attachment 44985
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Do you know where the source data is for this as the website listed as the source doesn't seem to have it and it doesn't seem to match any government or cps statistics.

Closet thing I can find is this which is ethnicity not nationality:
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 7:09 PM
  • #54,498
Sky Blue Pete said:
What do you mean? All people on boats are guilty of child rape
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Er no. But they are unprocessed. Anyone who in this country has been guilty in the past of child molestation would not be allowed to be in any community - do the same safeguard apply to asylum seekers?
 

Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 7:29 PM
  • #54,499
Sky Blue Pete said:
What do you mean? All people on boats are guilty of child rape
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I do also Pete find this a bit self righteous and patronising.

I’ve frequently said I’m not bothered by migration as it doesn’t bother me

Like everyone if you don’t have experience of issues why would it.

My youngest daughter now won’t walk past the hotel with the dog as people have jeered and made blatant sexual references to her from there.

I went with said dog and some drunken idiot said he would eat my dog

She actually isn’t overly intimidated but I think it’s probably best she takes a different route. A few weeks ago some guy was outside the shop asking for cash - then he became abusive as he wasn’t getting very much sympathy

Men are visiting the hotel for sex. It’s happening and no one cares.

I have lived here for the first 20 years of my life and the last 20 years

There has never been a single issue until migrants were accessing the hotels.

Why are you so self righteous- would you like your daughter to have someone ask to see her pussy when she’s walking the dog?
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 7:35 PM
  • #54,500
chiefdave said:
Do you know where the source data is for this as the website listed as the source doesn't seem to have it and it doesn't seem to match any government or cps statistics.

Closet thing I can find is this which is ethnicity not nationality:
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It doesn't add up at all.

The source of that graph says 77 Afghans were convicted of sexual offences then immediately shows that chart which says Afghans are convicted at a rate of 59.3 per 10000.

To get a rate that high the Afghan population in the UK would have to be circa 13k, when it's closer to 100k.
 

ccfc922

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  • Yesterday at 7:39 PM
  • #54,501
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Explain to me how a human is ‘illegal’.
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Jesus.
 

ccfc922

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  • Yesterday at 7:45 PM
  • #54,502
Grendel said:
I do also Pete find this a bit self righteous and patronising.

I’ve frequently said I’m not bothered by migration as it doesn’t bother me

Like everyone if you don’t have experience of issues why would it.

My youngest daughter now won’t walk past the hotel with the dog as people have jeered and made blatant sexual references to her from there.

I went with said dog and some drunken idiot said he would eat my dog

She actually isn’t overly intimidated but I think it’s probably best she takes a different route. A few weeks ago some guy was outside the shop asking for cash - then he became abusive as he wasn’t getting very much sympathy

Men are visiting the hotel for sex. It’s happening and no one cares.

I have lived here for the first 20 years of my life and the last 20 years

There has never been a single issue until migrants were accessing the hotels.

Why are you so self righteous- would you like your daughter to have someone ask to see her pussy when she’s walking the dog?
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That never has ever happened you bigot!!

Everyone of them just wants a better life!!!
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Yesterday at 7:48 PM
  • #54,503
ccfc922 said:
Jesus.
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Ironically he would probably not be allowed in by half the people on here
 
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Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 7:51 PM
  • #54,504
ccfc922 said:
That never has ever happened you bigot!!

Everyone of them just wants a better life!!!
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Not in the one hotel it doesn’t - which PVA refuses to name

How interesting
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Yesterday at 7:58 PM
  • #54,505
Grendel said:
Er no. But they are unprocessed. Anyone who in this country has been guilty in the past of child molestation would not be allowed to be in any community - do the same safeguard apply to asylum seekers?
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I don’t know but are you saying that you think convicted sex offenders are coming to the uk? And the evidence is sexual crime may have increased??

I’m just trying to understand

I’m sorry to have annoyed you
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 8:00 PM
  • #54,506
GIMOC said:
1000s of undocumented men are entering the country being housed or occupying hotels and raping girls

if that doesn’t anger you and instead trying to justify it then imo you are part of the problem

Here’s some stats. rapes in Uk rising year by year and Afghan have the highest rate

see the correlation?View attachment 44984View attachment 44985
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So the highest rate is 59.3/10,000. Or 0.6%. And that's for sexual assault, not child rape.

While that's still utterly abhorrent and as I said something that for me would result in instant deportation, I wouldn't call 0.6% "many of these blokes have raped young girls".

That's just blatantly untrue, sensationalism and hate speech.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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  • Yesterday at 8:01 PM
  • #54,507
GIMOC said:
you really that thick?

it’s illegal to enter a country without documents

the same analogy applies

you wouldn’t want someone you didn’t know enter your house would you? Especially if you have kids etc..

this is no different. we shouldn’t allow ANYONE in this country unless documented
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Entering a country without documents is an illegal ACT. It is not an illegal PERSON.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 8:02 PM
  • #54,508
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Entering a country without documents is an illegal ACT. It is not an illegal PERSON.
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You’re wasting your time, ignore him.
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 8:03 PM
  • #54,509
Grendel said:
I do also Pete find this a bit self righteous and patronising.

I’ve frequently said I’m not bothered by migration as it doesn’t bother me

Like everyone if you don’t have experience of issues why would it.

My youngest daughter now won’t walk past the hotel with the dog as people have jeered and made blatant sexual references to her from there.

I went with said dog and some drunken idiot said he would eat my dog

She actually isn’t overly intimidated but I think it’s probably best she takes a different route. A few weeks ago some guy was outside the shop asking for cash - then he became abusive as he wasn’t getting very much sympathy

Men are visiting the hotel for sex. It’s happening and no one cares.

I have lived here for the first 20 years of my life and the last 20 years

There has never been a single issue until migrants were accessing the hotels.

Why are you so self righteous- would you like your daughter to have someone ask to see her pussy when she’s walking the dog?
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Men are visiting the hotel to have sex with the male migrants?
Never a single issue? Who are all the people in the prisons guilty of child rape prior to 2016?

again I don’t think I’m self righteous and I’ve given evidence against an Iraqi man that sexually assaulted my daughter just before covid so don’t assume you know what my experiences are? Of course it wouldn’t be good to have someone ask to see her pussy but that’s no different if it’s an immigrant from her sixth form colleagues back in the day
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 8:09 PM
  • #54,510
Sky Blue Pete said:
Men are visiting the hotel to have sex with the male migrants?
Never a single issue? Who are all the people in the prisons guilty of child rape prior to 2016?

again I don’t think I’m self righteous and I’ve given evidence against an Iraqi man that sexually assaulted my daughter just before covid so don’t assume you know what my experiences are? Of course it wouldn’t be good to have someone ask to see her pussy but that’s no different if it’s an immigrant from her sixth form colleagues back in the day
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Unbelievable - I give up
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 8:17 PM
  • #54,511
Grendel said:
Unbelievable - I give up
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Why?
 

GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 8:21 PM
  • #54,512
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Entering a country without documents is an illegal ACT. It is not an illegal PERSON.
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a person who kills someone is an illegal act and is a murderer

a person who comes here with no documents performs an illegal act and is an illegal immigrant
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:11 PM
  • #54,513
Grendel said:
No but he’s still in his job so it’s not exactly deserving a ban

People are frequently accused as being racists, Nazi apologists etc on here
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Think fascist is the correct description,well for me at least.
 
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GIMOC

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  • Yesterday at 9:22 PM
  • #54,514
Same day another child getting abused by a migrant

im sure the illegal immigrant sympathises on here will find another excuse

Migrant 'tried to kidnap child, 10,' while living in 3-star asylum hotel

A MIGRANT from a taxpayer-funded asylum hotel has been charged with attempting to kidnap a child, The Sun can reveal. The Sudanese man appeared in court accused of attempting to swipe the girl of t…
www.thesun.co.uk
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:25 PM
  • #54,515
GIMOC said:
Same day another child getting abused by a migrant

im sure the illegal immigrant sympathises on here will find another excuse

Migrant 'tried to kidnap child, 10,' while living in 3-star asylum hotel

A MIGRANT from a taxpayer-funded asylum hotel has been charged with attempting to kidnap a child, The Sun can reveal. The Sudanese man appeared in court accused of attempting to swipe the girl of t…
www.thesun.co.uk
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Literally no one is saying this is ok
 

GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:26 PM
  • #54,516
Sky Blue Pete said:
Literally no one is saying this is ok
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clearly you are because you think it’s ok having all these undocumented men coming in and committing crime to our kids

seriously when will enough be enough for you? genuine question
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:28 PM
  • #54,517
GIMOC said:
clearly you are because you think it’s ok having all these undocumented men coming in and committing crime to our kids

seriously when will enough be enough for you? genuine question
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When you and others who want to blame immigration for everything can come up with a solution that doesn’t label anyone who isn’t English as a potential sexual offender and that we just need to stop the boats and all our problems will go away
 
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GIMOC

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  • Yesterday at 9:31 PM
  • #54,518
Sky Blue Pete said:
When you and others who want to blame immigration for everything can come up with a solution that doesn’t label anyone who isn’t English as a potential sexual offender and that we just need to stop the boats and all our problems will go away
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what are you on about?

Every crime committed by an illegal immigrant could have been stopped if these scumbags were sent back as soon as they arrived

they have no documents so means no right to be here

Stats show how bad rape is now in the country compared to 20 years ago

same time as immigration in this country has shot up

simple solution. you come here illegally you get sent home. simple
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:33 PM
  • #54,519
GIMOC said:
what are you on about?

Every crime committed by an illegal immigrant could have been stopped if these scumbags were sent back as soon as they arrived

they have no documents so means no right to be here

Stats show how bad rape is now in the country compared to 20 years ago

same time as immigration in this country has shot up

simple solution. you come here illegally you get sent home. simple
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Where’s home gimoc? Hence the problem
I’m sure you have the stats to show that rape has gone up over 20 years and the perpetrators are illegal immigrants

There’s an issue here that needs resolving but it’s not easy
 

GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:36 PM
  • #54,520
Sky Blue Pete said:
Where’s home gimoc? Hence the problem
I’m sure you have the stats to show that rape has gone up over 20 years and the perpetrators are illegal immigrants

There’s an issue here that needs resolving but it’s not easy
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just in case you missed it
Do you want to discuss boring politics?

yes it is easy. You send them back to the last country they came from

If you come via illegal channels and have no documents then you get returned immediately
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:37 PM
  • #54,521
GIMOC said:
just in case you missed it
Do you want to discuss boring politics?

yes it is easy. You send them back to the last country they came from

If you come via illegal channels and have no documents then you get returned immediately
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You know requires agreement why don’t you understand that
 

GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:39 PM
  • #54,522
Sky Blue Pete said:
You know requires agreement why don’t you understand that
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well scrap it all

We are an island it should be impossible to arrive here other than the correct ways

I can’t just go by car or plane to another country without a passport wouldn’t be allowed past Dover
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:39 PM
  • #54,523
Sky Blue Pete said:
You know requires agreement why don’t you understand that
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You also know that many people in world have English as a second language and you also know that people have a legal right to claim asylum where they want to
 

Sky Blue Pete

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:39 PM
  • #54,524
GIMOC said:
well scrap it all

We are an island it should be impossible to arrive here other than the correct ways

I can’t just go by car or plane to another country without a passport wouldn’t be allowed past Dover
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You could go on a rubber dingy I’m sure
 

GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:44 PM
  • #54,525
Sky Blue Pete said:
You also know that many people in world have English as a second language and you also know that people have a legal right to claim asylum where they want to
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no they don’t lol

you can’t go to Oz for starters without having a sponsor
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:44 PM
  • #54,526
GIMOC said:
I can’t just go by car or plane to another country without a passport wouldn’t be allowed past Dover
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It’s almost as if that’s why they’re not coming here by car or by plane.
 

GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:46 PM
  • #54,527
skybluetony176 said:
It’s almost as if that’s why they’re not coming here by car or by plane.
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yeah because they wouldn’t be allowed so same should apply by coming illegally
 

skybluetony176

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:47 PM
  • #54,528
GIMOC said:
no they don’t lol

you can’t go to Oz for starters without having a sponsor
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You can go on a tourist visa though, overstay and then start working in the black jobs market. Which is still how the vast majority of illegals become illegals in literally every country in the world. Including ours.
 
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GIMOC

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:50 PM
  • #54,529
skybluetony176 said:
You can go on a tourist visa though, overstay and then start working in the black jobs market. Which is still how the vast majority of illegals become illegals in literally every country in the world. Including ours.
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so you’ve got one person saying you can just claim asylum anywhere which was lies

vast majority of illegal immigrants don’t come here via a visa because you don’t need one

they come by boats and then get houses in hotels

as for the black market. that’s why I don’t use any delivery company anymore
 
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wingy

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 9:51 PM
  • #54,530
Sky Blue Pete said:
You could go on a rubber dingy I’m sure
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That would be novel,in fact I don't know why this has never occurred to me before, just do the opposite and get a load of British people going the other way.
All those people that think this is a no hope nation, which is probably many, invade France and live the life ol, drinking wine which used to be as cheap as water,no need for a parable there!
 
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