Because the journey's a risk and the man stands a better chance of earning enough to send back. Just a guess, not sure what reasons are given.Exactly what I was about to post. It's this single fact that irritates me more than any other. No problem in anyone wanting a better life, we won the lottery being born here, but why always single males? If my family was at risk I'd die helping them get the fk away not leave them and say I'll send for you when I'm settled.
Because the journey's a risk and the man stands a better chance of earning enough to send back. Just a guess, not sure what reasons are given.
Interested to know what @Marty and @Earlsdon_Skyblue1 found funny about the idea that a person can't be 'illegal' though.
Exactly, we took the women and children from Ukraine, and welcomed them with open arms!Exactly what I was about to post. It's this single fact that irritates me more than any other. No problem in anyone wanting a better life, we won the lottery being born here, but why always single males? If my family was at risk I'd die helping them get the fk away not leave them and say I'll send for you when I'm settled.
This isn't about earning potential. Asylum is about risk and leaving war torn areas. If that's true get your family away. If its not then it's only what everyone argues against which whatever term you find acceptable, but tgey are unwanted, cost money and should be stopped and returned. Simply here for free benefits not given anywhere else or why risk leaving France? Any other argument for their reason has to be bollocks.Because the journey's a risk and the man stands a better chance of earning enough to send back. Just a guess, not sure what reasons are given.
Interested to know what @Marty and @Earlsdon_Skyblue1 found funny about the idea that a person can't be 'illegal' though.
Where are their women and children?
Exactly what I was about to post. It's this single fact that irritates me more than any other. No problem in anyone wanting a better life, we won the lottery being born here, but why always single males?
It’s mostly single males in hotels because despite some people believing they’re having a great time living in 5* hotels spending their time having spa days the home office consider hotel’s accommodation of last resort. As it’s considered the worst option women and children are prioritised for the ‘better’ accommodation.I also think people's views would be different if it was coach loads of women and children. Mine would.
So you believe they're actively splitting families up, putting women and children in some accommodation and sending busloads of husbands to hotels? I'm sorry, but I've not seen any footage of groups of women and kids and at the very minimum am skeptical of those quoted percentages.It’s mostly single males in hotels because despite some people believing they’re having a great time living in 5* hotels spending their time having spa days the home office consider hotel’s accommodation of last resort. As it’s considered the worst option women and children are prioritised for the ‘better’ accommodation.
If you look at the figures for 2024 30% of asylum seekers were women and 20% children.
The reason for more men than women and children is widely believed to be down to two factors. Firstly they are often coming from countries where there is still the believe that the man is the head of the family and therefore both more likely to be a target in times of conflict and also more likely to risk entering the country via a dangerous route.
Which leads on to the second factor which is that it’s often the case that the male crosses first hoping to successfully claim asylum at which point his family can enter the country via a safe route thanks to the family reunification program.
Well our rules are part of the reason for that.Exactly what I was about to post. It's this single fact that irritates me more than any other. No problem in anyone wanting a better life, we won the lottery being born here, but why always single males? If my family was at risk I'd die helping them get the fk away not leave them and say I'll send for you when I'm settled.
We don't know the motivations of politicians whatever their ilk,there could be reason's that we are not aware of, especially to put up with the flak they take over this, maybe they'll be in the army when we decide who's the enemy?I also think people's views would be different if it was coach loads of women and children. Mine would.
It’s mostly single males in hotels because despite some people believing they’re having a great time living in 5* hotels spending their time having spa days the home office consider hotel’s accommodation of last resort. As it’s considered the worst option women and children are prioritised for the ‘better’ accommodation.
If you look at the figures for 2024 30% of asylum seekers were women and 20% children.
The reason for more men than women and children is widely believed to be down to two factors. Firstly they are often coming from countries where there is still the believe that the man is the head of the family and therefore both more likely to be a target in times of conflict and also more likely to risk entering the country via a dangerous route.
Which leads on to the second factor which is that it’s often the case that the male crosses first hoping to successfully claim asylum at which point his family can enter the country via a safe route thanks to the family reunification program.
No I believe that single males are top of the list for hotel accommodation. Didn’t think it was a particularly complex concept.So you believe they're actively splitting families up, putting women and children in some accommodation and sending busloads of husbands to hotels? I'm sorry, but I've not seen any footage of groups of women and kids and at the very minimum am skeptical of those quoted percentages.
How about ‘people’So what would you prefer they were called? Irregular migrant, like the gimp in power?
Except those figures aren’t from years ago. They’re the figures from the home office for 2024, not really possible to have the figures for 2025 seeing as the year hasn’t finished.you might have got away with that 5 years ago but that’s just rubbish now
majority of men now are young 20’s no families they are coming here because they can’t free accommodation, food and other benefits
most people in this country now see through it and are fed up
with your nonsense above, you are in the minority now but can’t help but try and spin it
What's the percentage share of men, women and kids entering on boats / illegally for example?No I believe that single males are top of the list for hotel accommodation. Didn’t think it was a particularly complex concept.
If you’re going to just deny the governments figures for asylum claims it’s going to be near impossible to have a serious discussion on how to resolve any issues with the current system.
I'm not sure. I guess because there are laws stating doing so is inhumane and against things like the Geneva convention.So why aren't the government using secure camps and just allowing them to wander round unvetted?
Except those figures aren’t from years ago. They’re the figures from the home office for 2024, not really possible to have the figures for 2025 seeing as the year hasn’t finished.
What's the percentage share of men, women and kids entering on boats / illegally for example?
Can’t find those stats, only think I can find is something from the commons library saying 29% of asylum seekers arrive by small boats.What's the percentage share of men, women and kids entering on boats / illegally for example?
lol so what are the figures you are referring to?
Canary Wharf strikes me as quite a good place to house migrants tbh
Exactly what I was about to post. It's this single fact that irritates me more than any other. No problem in anyone wanting a better life, we won the lottery being born here, but why always single males? If my family was at risk I'd die helping them get the fk away not leave them and say I'll send for you when I'm settled.
Oh fucking great, so in reality the numbers planning to relocate here will in reality be more than double what we are currently experiencing?It’s mostly single males in hotels because despite some people believing they’re having a great time living in 5* hotels spending their time having spa days the home office consider hotel’s accommodation of last resort. As it’s considered the worst option women and children are prioritised for the ‘better’ accommodation.
If you look at the figures for 2024 30% of asylum seekers were women and 20% children.
The reason for more men than women and children is widely believed to be down to two factors. Firstly they are often coming from countries where there is still the believe that the man is the head of the family and therefore both more likely to be a target in times of conflict and also more likely to risk entering the country via a dangerous route.
Which leads on to the second factor which is that it’s often the case that the male crosses first hoping to successfully claim asylum at which point his family can enter the country via a safe route thanks to the family reunification program.
‘Illegals’. This isn’t the US and a human being cannot be ‘illegal’.
Explain to me how a human is ‘illegal’.Entering a country without appropriate documents is an illegal act, as much as you'd like to say otherwise.
Go to any country in the world, throw away your passport and try and walk through customs if you think you can?
Can you go abroad without a passport?Explain to me how a human is ‘illegal’.
Can you go abroad without a passport?
Entering a country without appropriate documents is an illegal act, as much as you'd like to say otherwise.
Go to any country in the world, throw away your passport and try and walk through customs if you think you can?
People can commit illegal acts.
It is not illegal to be a person.
People can commit illegal acts.
It is not illegal to be a person.
so I assume you would be happy with a few people getting into your house
sitting there on the sofa watching tv eating your food and you won’t mind?
What on earth are you on about?
I'm saying there's a difference between an illegal act and being an illegal person.
It is not illegal to be a person (I guess unless you've been sentenced to death?).
Yeah, just wanting people not to be dehumanised as a bare minimum. You cannot be an illegal asylum seeker either, to be clear, until the claim is denied and you remain in the country.Don't engage, he's just changing the course of the conversation for no other reason than to distract from the real issue, that they shouldn't be here.
Yeah, just wanting people not to be dehumanised as a bare minimum. You cannot be an illegal asylum seeker either, to be clear, until the claim is denied and you remain in the country.
you really that thick?
it’s illegal to enter a country without documents
the same analogy applies
you wouldn’t want someone you didn’t know enter your house would you? Especially if you have kids etc..
this is no different. we shouldn’t allow ANYONE in this country unless documented
Yeah, just wanting people not to be dehumanised as a bare minimum. You cannot be an illegal asylum seeker either, to be clear, until the claim is denied and you remain in the country.
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