Why do you never comment on anything football related Mr ukip?SkyBlueDumb to the rescue. Grendulls very own useful idiot.
Grendel has the weirdest moral compass I've ever seen.
Shrugs his shoulders at women and children being bombed because it's just how the world is.
But wishes death on jockeys because riding a horse is the most disgusting and sick thing imaginable.
It’s not semantics though is it. YOU gave YOUR definition of a terrorist. I named someone who met YOUR criteria and YOU said that they wasn’t a terrorist. That’s hypocrisy not semantics. YOUR standards are clearly flexible depending upon the cause. Protesting against ethnic cleansing by spray painting planes equals terrorist/terrorism. Promoting the destruction of property and the lives within said property equals not terrorism. According to YOU.I mean if we are getting into semantics then surely the destruction of property by the BLM mob was terrorism
It’s not semantics though is it. YOU gave YOUR definition of a terrorist. I named someone who met YOUR criteria and YOU said that they wasn’t a terrorist. That’s hypocrisy not semantics. YOUR standards are clearly flexible depending upon the cause. Protesting against ethnic cleansing by spray painting planes equals terrorist/terrorism. Promoting the destruction of property and the lives within said property equals not terrorism. According to YOU.
Trapped in a hole of your own hypocrisy. Quick, attack the man as you’re incapable of arguing the point.All those CAPS Tonester. Such emotion.
Shame it doesn’t come across to the football side of the forum
Grendel has the weirdest moral compass I've ever seen.
Shrugs his shoulders at women and children being bombed because it's just how the world is.
But wishes death on jockeys because riding a horse is the most disgusting and sick thing imaginable.
It’s not mine. Mine has a Coventry City Council shirt too.
It’s not mine. Mine has a Coventry City Council shirt too.
Joint statement by:
foreign ministers of Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the UK
EU Commissioner for Equality, Preparedness and Crisis Management
We, the signatories listed below, come together with a simple, urgent message: the war in Gaza must end now.
The suffering of civilians in Gaza has reached new depths. The Israeli government’s aid delivery model is dangerous, fuels instability and deprives Gazans of human dignity. We condemn the drip feeding of aid and the inhumane killing of civilians, including children, seeking to meet their most basic needs of water and food. It is horrifying that over 800 Palestinians have been killed while seeking aid. The Israeli Government’s denial of essential humanitarian assistance to the civilian population is unacceptable. Israel must comply with its obligations under international humanitarian law.
The hostages cruelly held captive by Hamas since 7 October 2023 continue to suffer terribly. We condemn their continued detention and call for their immediate and unconditional release. A negotiated ceasefire offers the best hope of bringing them home and ending the agony of their families.
We call on the Israeli government to immediately lift restrictions on the flow of aid and to urgently enable the UN and humanitarian NGOs to do their life saving work safely and effectively.
We call on all parties to protect civilians and uphold the obligations of international humanitarian law. Proposals to remove the Palestinian
population into a “humanitarian city” are completely unacceptable. Permanent forced displacement is a violation of international humanitarian law.
We strongly oppose any steps towards territorial or demographic change in the Occupied Palestinian Territories. The E1 settlement plan announced by Israel’s Civil Administration, if implemented, would divide a Palestinian state in two, marking a flagrant breach of international law and critically undermine the two-state solution. Meanwhile, settlement building across the West Bank including East Jerusalem has accelerated while settler violence against Palestinians has soared. This must stop.
We urge the parties and the international community to unite in a common effort to bring this terrible conflict to an end, through an immediate, unconditional and permanent ceasefire. Further bloodshed serves no purpose. We reaffirm our complete support to the efforts of the US, Qatar and Egypt to achieve this.
We are prepared to take further action to support an immediate ceasefire and a political pathway to security and peace for Israelis, Palestinians and the entire region.
This statement has been signed by:
The Foreign Ministers of Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland and the UK
The EU Commissioner for Equality, Preparedness and Crisis Management
They must have been watching this thread today:
Deplorable, dont you think?Meanwhile we will continue to flog them arms
What’s ridiculous is that you trot this nonsense out every time you dig yourself a hole and can’t justify or argue your hypocrisy.Bit ridiculous isn't it Tony given you kissed the UKIP ass?
Why do you never comment on football threads mr ukip? Why can’t you answer the questionWhat’s ridiculous is that you trot this nonsense out every time you dig yourself a hole and can’t justify or argue your hypocrisy.
‘Played him’. Well, Netanyahu and Putin have.
You’re copying Grendel’s arguments, I get why he’s making them, but it should make you think.
For what it’s worth my opinion/criteria for it to be terrorism there has to be an act of terror. Throwing the statue of a slaver in the river is not an act of terrorism, militant yes but no one was upset really and it caused no terror. Spray painting planes again is not an act of terror, militant yes but no one has been left with PTSD by the actions.
Was the woman a terrorist for her tweet? No (even though she meets Grendulls criteria to be labelled a terrorist) in my opinion, militant definitely but she 100% broke the law and deserved her prison sentence. The people who physically tried to burn down the hotels knowing people were inside though, 100% should have been trialed as terrorists though because indisputably they were committing a deliberate act of terror.
That’s nice but that’s not what the law says.
This is the issue with terrorism people think it means “really bad stuff (probably done by Muslims)” and it doesn’t. The definition has been posted multiple times.
And again “spray painting planes” is a lie. I’ve shown it’s a lie. You keep repeating it because “a bit of assault and ramraiding and throwing smoke bombs at evacuating staff” doesn’t help your terrible point.
If the definition of terrorism in the UK is now so broad as to consider non-violent direct action as terrorism, then I'd argue that basically it's not fit for purpose.
We're literally arresting little old ladies holding placards, for "terrorism" offences now, and threatening people holding Palestinian flags.
Amongst many other movements that used civil disobedience, Suffragettes would be classed as terrorists now. Greenpeace most certainly could. Where does it end?
It's a sledgehammer to crack a walnut, imho. We've got existing laws that could (and have been) easily be used to prosecute Palestinian Action - declaring them to be terrorists is a nonsense and dilutes the meaning of the word, imho.
If the definition of terrorism in the UK is now so broad as to consider non-violent direct action as terrorism, then I'd argue that basically it's not fit for purpose.
We're literally arresting little old ladies holding placards, for "terrorism" offences now, and threatening people holding Palestinian flags.
Amongst many other movements that used civil disobedience, Suffragettes would be classed as terrorists now. Greenpeace most certainly could. Where does it end?
It's a sledgehammer to crack a walnut, imho. We've got existing laws that could (and have been) easily be used to prosecute Palestinian Action - declaring them to be terrorists is a nonsense and dilutes the meaning of the word, imho.
Britain First isn't a proscribed organisation. It was raised in parliment after Jo Cox's murder but it seems that event was not enough to meet the threshold to be added to the list.If it was an old woman holding up a placard for the IRA, ISIS or Britain First then surely it would be the same?
I'm pretty sure BF is.Britain First isn't a proscribed organisation. It was raised in parliment after Jo Cox's murder but it seems that event was not enough to meet the threshold to be added to the list.
ISIS is on the list, as is the IRA, but I wouldn't be able to tell you the last time anyone was arrested for having a sign displaying either.
Case law suggests that simply displaying the name will not be anywhere near sufficient to secure a conviction.
The Suffragettes were terrorists by any reasonable definition of the word, they planted bombs FFS!
Doesn't seem to be on the list on the Home Office site but maybe its covered under something elseI'm pretty sure BF is.
MPs' 'hypocrisy' blasted as Suffragettes celebrated while Palestine Action banned
WESTMINSTER has been branded “broken” as MPs celebrated the Suffragettes on the same day as voting to ban a protest group under terrorism laws…www.thenational.scot
If it was an old woman holding up a placard for the IRA, ISIS or Britain First then surely it would be the same?
He was almost doing a jig when delivering his speech the other day. Hope he's made to stand front and centre in September and told to put on a smile.Moral compasses are truly strange.
Our foreign secretary once thought Donald Trump was a Nazi and a fascist. Then he gave him an extra portion of chicken and he was a swell guy
the last one isn't proscribed or anything close I don't think so no, and the first two murdered a lot of people so not quite comparing apples vs. apples.
I saw talk about XR, JSO and Greenpeace which are probably better comparisons. Labour did what Israel and its lobbyists told them to do and it's pathetic.
the last one isn't proscribed or anything close I don't think so no, and the first two murdered a lot of people so not quite comparing apples vs. apples.
I saw talk about XR, JSO and Greenpeace which are probably better comparisons. Labour did what Israel and its lobbyists told them to do and it's pathetic.
They stood a candidate in the London mayoral election last year, so they can't be classed as terrorists unless something changed in the past year.Doesn't seem to be on the list on the Home Office site but maybe its covered under something else
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