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Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 12:42 PM
  • #53,866
shmmeee said:
I want everyone to pay more taxes. You don’t want that. Grrrr taxes.

OK I want everyone to have more kids to the tax burden is shared more. You don’t want that. Grrr benefits.

OK I want us to accept we’ll have to bring working age immigrants in to share the tax burden. You don’t want that. Grrr immigrants.

OK we’ll have to cut pensioner benefits. Let’s start with giving money to the richest pensioners. You don’t want that. Grr Kier Starmer.

See the problem?
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I hope your dealer is back in Bedworth soon
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Yesterday at 12:45 PM
  • #53,867
Grendel said:
I hope your dealer is back in Bedworth soon
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Hope he's paying tax as well.
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 12:50 PM
  • #53,868
Grendel said:
I hope your dealer is back in Bedworth soon
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You know he's blocked you. You keep replying to him, even though you know you'll never get a response.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 12:55 PM
  • #53,869
shmmeee said:
Im saying that just calling everyone who has kids at a sustainable rate stupid is a pretty wild generalisation.

If choice and education lead to a species that can’t sustain itself what do you do about that?

People were telling me it’s 100% about finances. I only brought up poorer people having more kids and poorer countries having more kids as a reposte to that. Being wealthier clearly makes you have fewer kids on average.

The response was that well they’re all stupid and religious. Which frankly I find pretty fucking appalling considering it’s come from the progressive side of this thread. Are you really so smart if you end up extinct?
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It’s not a great sample size but lots of footballers seem to have children quite young. Not having any financial concerns surely helps there.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Yesterday at 12:58 PM
  • #53,870

Delivery driver doing 30mph on e-bike arrested on immigration offences

Police apologised to whoever didn't get their food order
www.coventrytelegraph.net

Bit of cash in hand as well as the rest.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 12:59 PM
  • #53,871
PVA said:
You know he's blocked you. You keep replying to him, even though you know you'll never get a response.
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Oh dear
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 1:00 PM
  • #53,872
Nick said:
Hope he's paying tax as well.
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Something of course he wanted to avoid
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Yesterday at 1:02 PM
  • #53,873
Grendel said:
Something of course he wanted to avoid
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It must just be everybody else then.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 1:02 PM
  • #53,874
PVA said:
You know he's blocked you. You keep replying to him, even though you know you'll never get a response.
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Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 1:06 PM
  • #53,875
Nick said:
It must just be everybody else then.
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It always is. The reality is he’s actually a Tory and because of his upbringing he can’t cope with it. It’s hilarious to see.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
  • Yesterday at 1:08 PM
  • #53,876
Nick said:
It must just be everybody else then.
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And anyone breaking the law should be arrested…apart from him.
 
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PVA

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  • Yesterday at 1:10 PM
  • #53,877
Grendel said:
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Are you OK?
 

Marty

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  • Yesterday at 1:11 PM
  • #53,878
Brighton Sky Blue said:
It’s not a great sample size but lots of footballers seem to have children quite young. Not having any financial concerns surely helps there.
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I guess it's easier when you have women throwing themselves at you every day.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 1:21 PM
  • #53,879
PVA said:
Are you OK?
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Your sycophantic behaviour is just embarrassing - I’m sure you’ll be sending him a DM telling him what’s been said. He’s a prick and deserves all the shite he gets
 

Captain Dart

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  • Yesterday at 1:22 PM
  • #53,880
shmmeee said:
Old enough to do all that but can’t get insurance through Saga or claim the state pension or rent a van

All the arguments are silly aren’t they really? But as we need an age let’s just make it 18 when you’re an adult and the government considers you an autonomous being.
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Votes at 16 is Labour gerrymandering pure and simple.
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Yesterday at 1:26 PM
  • #53,881
Nick said:

Delivery driver doing 30mph on e-bike arrested on immigration offences

Police apologised to whoever didn't get their food order
www.coventrytelegraph.net

Bit of cash in hand as well as the rest.
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All of those companies need to be held properly to account for this shite, instead of hiding behind the notion that the bikers are self employed.
 
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chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 1:27 PM
  • #53,882
I had low expectations for reform led councils but they're off to an astonishing start.

Got to admit I didn't have calling for more immigrants and wasting money on unnecessary admin staff down as a couple of the first things they'd go for.

Reform-led Kent council calls for more overseas social care visas

The government’s Social Care Worker Visa route for overseas recruitment is to end.
www.bbc.co.uk

Reform seeks to spend up to £570k on three assistants at council

Opposition parties on Warwickshire County Council say the money could be better spent elsewhere.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 1:27 PM
  • #53,883
Grendel said:
Your sycophantic behaviour is just embarrassing - I’m sure you’ll be sending him a DM telling him what’s been said. He’s a prick and deserves all the shite he gets
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Riiight. I won't be DM-ing anybody and nor am I being sycophantic - I was merely pointing out you're talking to yourself and it's a bit odd.

If you get a kick out of it then crack on.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Yesterday at 1:31 PM
  • #53,884
fernandopartridge said:
All of those companies need to be held properly to account for this shite, instead of hiding behind the notion that the bikers are self employed.
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I don't think they even check who's doing the deliveries so people make accounts and then let other people use them for a %.
 
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Grendel

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  • Yesterday at 1:35 PM
  • #53,885
PVA said:
Riiight. I won't be DM-ing anybody and nor am I being sycophantic - I was merely pointing out you're talking to yourself and it's a bit odd.

If you get a kick out of it then crack on.
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O Day blocks me but strangely seems to be able to answer. What’s odd is you caring enough to make the message. I’m sure he’s not that fucking retarded to unblock - though he seems very unhinged these days. Probably needs to access his daddies account again by accident
 
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chiefdave

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  • Yesterday at 1:40 PM
  • #53,886
Nick said:
I don't think they even check who's doing the deliveries so people make accounts and then let other people use them for a %.
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they definitely don't for food deliveries. you can go on reddit and see people openly talking about sharing accounts and paying to use established accounts.

for things like uber taxis its totally reliant on customers reporting that the driver doesn't look like the photo but how often is that happening?

guess its the logical extension to having allowed companies to use self employed staff for years. everytime I've had a company do work on my house (roofers, window fitters etc) its always one company who comes and quotes, charges for materials then someone self employed who turns up to do the work and needs paying directly.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Yesterday at 1:44 PM
  • #53,887
It's not hard to catch them. Hang about by Gallagher McDonald's for an hour and you will get a few immigration arrests and some dodgy cars off the road.
 

mmttww

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 1:45 PM
  • #53,888
Grendel said:
He’s a prick and deserves all the shite he gets
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'oh dear'
 
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PVA

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 2:02 PM
  • #53,889
Grendel said:
O Day blocks me but strangely seems to be able to answer. What’s odd is you caring enough to make the message. I’m sure he’s not that fucking retarded to unblock - though he seems very unhinged these days. Probably needs to access his daddies account again by accident
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Friday afternoon beers are great aren't they.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 2:16 PM
  • #53,890
chiefdave said:
I had low expectations for reform led councils but they're off to an astonishing start.

Got to admit I didn't have calling for more immigrants and wasting money on unnecessary admin staff down as a couple of the first things they'd go for.

Reform-led Kent council calls for more overseas social care visas

The government’s Social Care Worker Visa route for overseas recruitment is to end.
www.bbc.co.uk

Reform seeks to spend up to £570k on three assistants at council

Opposition parties on Warwickshire County Council say the money could be better spent elsewhere.
www.bbc.co.uk
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And another one. In a sane world you'd think this would be an indicator that they're not up to the job but I doubt it will have much impact.
Reform will not cut council tax in any of the areas where it controls the local authority despite pledging to find major cost savings, the head of its 'Doge' cost-cutting unit has admitted.

Former party chairman Zia Yusuf said that reducing the household tax was 'not going going to happen', citing the high cost of social care faced by councils.

He warned that the best the party could do in Kent and the other nine areas where it runs services would be to increase council tax more slowly that elsewhere.
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Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 2:50 PM
  • #53,891
PVA said:
Friday afternoon beers are great aren't they.
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I wouldn’t know I just think it’s really odd you’d take the time to make some strange post like you did
 

Ccfcisparks

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 2:51 PM
  • #53,892
Grendel said:
O Day blocks me but strangely seems to be able to answer. What’s odd is you caring enough to make the message. I’m sure he’s not that fucking retarded to unblock - though he seems very unhinged these days. Probably needs to access his daddies account again by accident
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Yes O'Day likes to block people and seems to read their messages regardless. Seems slightly counter intuitive
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 2:56 PM
  • #53,893
Ccfcisparks said:
Yes O'Day likes to block people and seems to read their messages regardless. Seems slightly counter intuitive
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And he did access his fathers account “by mistake” so I’m not sure what the alcohol reference is
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 3:29 PM
  • #53,894
David O'Day said:
Also as I said earlier it's strange that people who probably can win as independents such as McDonnell or Abbott haven't joined her straight away,
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Well Abbott has now again been suspended so guess we will find out
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 4:47 PM
  • #53,895
shmmeee said:
Kids cost a lot less than OAPs guys.

In fact almost all kids are net revenue positive for the state cos they grow up and pay taxes.
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Kids are still expensive to bring up properly.

And guess what happens to most of those kids that grow up and pay taxes? They grow older. become OAP's and cost a fortune.

We need a better solution.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 4:48 PM
  • #53,896
shmmeee said:
I dunno my ex went from class teacher to ass head as a single mum working part time.
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She might be your ex but that's harsh.
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 4:52 PM
  • #53,897
shmmeee said:
Im saying that just calling everyone who has kids at a sustainable rate stupid is a pretty wild generalisation.

If choice and education lead to a species that can’t sustain itself what do you do about that?

People were telling me it’s 100% about finances. I only brought up poorer people having more kids and poorer countries having more kids as a reposte to that. Being wealthier clearly makes you have fewer kids on average.

The response was that well they’re all stupid and religious. Which frankly I find pretty fucking appalling considering it’s come from the progressive side of this thread. Are you really so smart if you end up extinct?
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I made that observation because I have a public facing job in one of the poorer areas of the city.

I can tell you from experience those families with the most kids are held by their religious beliefs (mostly catholic) and have a very poor level of education. Of course there is also the fact that it's just part of life for them. The parents and grandparents had their first kids at 16-17 and it's just the norm.
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:23 PM
  • #53,898
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
And guess what happens to most of those kids that grow up and pay taxes? They grow older. become OAP's and cost a fortune.

We need a better solution.
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Mandatory euthanasia when you reach pension age
 

chiefdave

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:31 PM
  • #53,899
Do we have any vaguely competent political parties in this country?

 

fatso

Well-Known Member
  • Yesterday at 5:36 PM
  • #53,900
shmmeee said:
I want everyone to pay more taxes. You don’t want that. Grrrr taxes.

OK I want everyone to have more kids to the tax burden is shared more. You don’t want that. Grrr benefits.

OK I want us to accept we’ll have to bring working age immigrants in to share the tax burden. You don’t want that. Grrr immigrants.

OK we’ll have to cut pensioner benefits. Let’s start with giving money to the richest pensioners. You don’t want that. Grr Kier Starmer.

See the problem?
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Just dont double the defence budget just because Trump demands it.

That's a good fucking start.
 
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