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skybluetony176

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The money wasn’t wasted until the scheme was cancelled, without the option of a refund, by the Labour government.
Poor business on the Tories part then as they clearly signed up to a scheme with no get out clause. Thank god they didn’t get in and potentially spend another £9.7 billion on a gimmick that we’d never have gotten back or had any benefit from.
 

PVA

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The money wasn’t wasted until the scheme was cancelled, without the option of a refund, by the Labour government.

So if I go out and buy a written off Ford Fiesta for £100k I haven't wasted my money because it could get up and running still?
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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The tone of this post alone tells me you’re driven by hatred/envy of the rich than concern for the poor.

Free market capitalism has lead to the largest expansion of living standards. Like you, I agree capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all the others.
What it tells me is that you have no idea who I am or what I stand for.

Why would I envy people who are destroying society, causing misery for billions, driving things like migration and conflict as well as causing the collapse of ecosystems and a mass extinction of species not seen since the dinosaurs. Yep, I really envy them! If anything I pity them for not having the intelligence to see the damage they're doing. If they do know and just don't care maybe that could be described as hatred, but even then maybe that's a bit strong. More annoyance and frustration.

Capitalism hasn't lead to the biggest increase in living standards, that was science and the enlightment. The Incans believed that the reason for their success was brutally sacrificing kids and guess what happened when the 'Gods showed their displeasure'? They sacrificed even more kids. Had absolutely fuck all to do with the success or failure of their civilisation but they believed it. Capitalists show the same thinking - things are going well it's all because of capitalism, things aren't going well it's because we need to add more capitalism.

As has been pointed out we don't have free market capitalism in it's true sense because so many things are provided outside of that system. And most of those have the biggest benefit for living standards. And almost all others are subject to regulation and laws to specifically prevent abuse by the free market capitalists.

I would love to see in a thousand years the reaction of people then to how we're living now. They'll look back on it with the incredulity we show to sacrificing kids.
 

fernandopartridge

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Tut tut tut tut tut tsk tsk tsk
 

Grendel

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I see Zara has got in a pickle again and now is claiming Labour are leaking non stories to the Mail to cover up senior figures relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
 

Captain Dart

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rob9872

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Another U turn. 🤭
Tbf, he should be applauded for that. Giving it to most but the really wealthy who don't need it. Nobody should be called out for U-turns if the option is sensible, it was used as a stick to beat the Tory's with previously. Personally I'm happy that people can be big enough to reassess and accept they've made a mistake or the landscape has changed.
 

mmttww

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Any idea why governments do this?

Inbetweeners GIF
 

rob9872

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Any idea why governments do this? It's the same as the high income child benefit debacle:
I wondered if it might be easier to see the trail of when it's recovered or if circumstances change mid year etc.

However the cynic in me, says that if anyone is earning £34,700 and this £300 takes it to £35k they can then take it back :)
 

MalcSB

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