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SBT

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  • May 27, 2025
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shmmeee said:
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Not what you’d expect reading social media.
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PVA

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,312
Rachel from accounts at it again.


IMF raises UK growth forecast as it warns on tax and spending

In its annual health-check for the UK economy, the IMF predicted growth of 1.2%, a marginal upgrade to its previous forecast.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

Grendel

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,313
PVA said:
Rachel from accounts at it again.


IMF raises UK growth forecast as it warns on tax and spending

In its annual health-check for the UK economy, the IMF predicted growth of 1.2%, a marginal upgrade to its previous forecast.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Yes it’s brilliant. The iron chancellor who will not borrow has borrowed more than any other government other than 2010 and 2021

She will be fired within 12 months
 
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PVA

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  • May 28, 2025
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Grendel said:
Yes it’s brilliant. The iron chancellor who will not borrow has borrowed more than any other government other than 2010 and 2021

She will be fired within 12 months
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Yes if you ignore the governments that have borrowed more you will indeed find she has borrowed more than any government.
 

Grendel

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,315
PVA said:
Yes if you ignore the governments that have borrowed more you will indeed find she has borrowed more than any government.
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??? The borrowing in this FYE is the third highest on record.

What was the actual growth forecast she actually promised.
 
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SBT

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  • May 28, 2025
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Nigel Farage says it is 'utterly ludicrous' to allow abortion up to 24 weeks

The Reform UK leader was speaking about how he thinks the two-child benefit cap should be lifted and parents encouraged to have more children.
news.sky.com

Not sure what Farage is playing at here. Is there really a public clamour to tighten up abortion laws in this country? Is there even a serious problem with how the law is being administered?
 

shmmeee

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  • May 28, 2025
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SBT said:

Nigel Farage says it is 'utterly ludicrous' to allow abortion up to 24 weeks

The Reform UK leader was speaking about how he thinks the two-child benefit cap should be lifted and parents encouraged to have more children.
news.sky.com

Not sure what Farage is playing at here. Is there really a public clamour to tighten up abortion laws in this country? Is there even a serious problem with how the law is being administered?
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He’s playing at “gets lots of money from the American right”
 
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SBAndy

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  • May 28, 2025
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What about guns?
 

shmmeee

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,319
SBAndy said:
What about guns?
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Bit of a jump from milkshakes but I’m game.
 

MalcSB

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  • May 28, 2025
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Grendel said:
The average house price was 4 times more than the average wage in 1990. So what you are describing was unobtainable to most then as it is now
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PVA said:
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As you put it yourself “ it just makes you look spiteful and vindictive.”
 
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PVA

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  • May 28, 2025
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MalcSB said:
As you put it yourself “ it just makes you look spiteful and vindictive.”
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What are you talking about?

I don't begrudge older generations having nice houses.

What I take issue with is their (some, not all) attitude to the struggles faced by younger generations who don't have the same access or opportunities.
 
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Grendel

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  • May 28, 2025
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PVA said:
What are you talking about?

I don't begrudge older generations having nice houses.

What I take issue with is their (some, not all) attitude to the struggles faced by younger generations who don't have the same access or opportunities.
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They would have had the "opportunity" to live in my first flat - its £100,000 now
 

Grendel

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  • May 28, 2025
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Also I do have to take issue with someone from a younger generation who brags on a football forum he drives a Tesla
 

MalcSB

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  • May 28, 2025
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Grendel said:
Oh and there are plenty of 4 bedroom detached houses in the CV5 area for £400,000 or less. Also it’s very relative, I bought my first flat for £34,000 - on the same block they are now £109,000 35 years later.

If people want to slum it they can get a brand new house on the new estate near Meriden for £390,000
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Standard inflation, according to Bank of England, would put goods costing £330k in 1990 at a cost of £815k in April 2025. That would imply housing in affordability is scarcely unique. But I guess it is harder to blame boomers for the cost of shoes, so why not exaggerate for effect and disharmony.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • May 28, 2025
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MalcSB said:
Standard inflation, according to Bank of England, would put goods costing £330k in 1990 at a cost of £815k in April 2025. That would imply housing in affordability is scarcely unique. But I guess it is harder to blame boomers for the cost of shoes, so why not exaggerate for effect and disharmony.
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How do you keep missing the point of the topic again and again
 

Grendel

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,326
Ccfcisparks said:
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How do you keep missing the point of the topic again and again
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You could afford a £100,000 flat on a mortgage surely?
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,327
Grendel said:
You could afford a £100,000 flat on a mortgage surely?
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Yes my house is worth considerably more than that.

is your old flat currently on the market?
 

MalcSB

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,328
Grendel said:
They would have had the "opportunity" to live in my first flat - its £100,000 now
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With all the children they have, or want if they could only afford a roof over their heads???
 
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Grendel

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,329
Ccfcisparks said:
Yes my house is worth considerably more than that.

is your old flat currently on the market?
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One in the block is yes - my second house on Zoopla is valued now at £260,000 - its a very nice road and a semi.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • May 28, 2025
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Grendel said:
One in the block is yes - my second house on Zoopla is valued now at £260,000 - its a very nice road and a semi.
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I’ve just looked out of curiosity on rightmove for flats less than £100k near me in Dudley.

there are currently 25, and majority are either cash only or investment with a tenant in situ.

let’s say someone living near me is on £25k a year they haven’t got much choice if they are wanting to buy.

Their options are either move away from friends or family to somewhere like Cov, or rent.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,331
Grendel said:
One in the block is yes - my second house on Zoopla is valued now at £260,000 - it’s a very nice road and a semi.
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You’d need an income of around £50k to even be looking at buying that. It isn’t attainable for most.
 
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PVA

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,332
MalcSB said:
Standard inflation, according to Bank of England, would put goods costing £330k in 1990 at a cost of £815k in April 2025. That would imply housing in affordability is scarcely unique. But I guess it is harder to blame boomers for the cost of shoes, so why not exaggerate for effect and disharmony.
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Grendel

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,333
Ccfcisparks said:
I’ve just looked out of curiosity on rightmove for flats less than £100k near me in Dudley.

there are currently 25, and majority are either cash only or investment with a tenant in situ.

let’s say someone living near me is on £25k a year they haven’t got much choice if they are wanting to buy.

Their options are either move away from friends or family to somewhere like Cov, or rent.
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I don't know what you want me to say. £25k a year is surely less than minimum wage - and I had no choice - I drove a battered Lada Riva and I at 26 bought a flat which was owned by an elderly person and was run down and I bought second hand furniture. So what? It was great and I loved it
 
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Grendel

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  • May 28, 2025
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Ccfcisparks said:
You’d need an income of around £50k to even be looking at buying that. It isn’t attainable for most.
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Not if you were a second time buyer and bought a much cheaper place earlier
 

Grendel

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  • May 28, 2025
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PVA said:
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How much did you pay for your house?
 
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PVA

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,336
Grendel said:
I don't know what you want me to say. £25k a year is surely less than minimum wage - and I had no choice - I drove a battered Lada Riva and I at 26 bought a flat which was owned by an elderly person and was run down and I bought second hand furniture. So what? It was great and I loved it
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Grendel said:
You have quoted one anecdotal example and tried to suggest this is relevant - one anecdotal example (with zero evidence it’s even factual) proves nothing in reality - does it?
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Ccfcisparks

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  • May 28, 2025
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Grendel said:
I don't know what you want me to say. £25k a year is surely less than minimum wage - and I had no choice - I drove a battered Lada Riva and I at 26 bought a flat which was owned by an elderly person and was run down and I bought second hand furniture. So what? It was great and I loved it
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Nobody is arguing that you may have struggled? It seems to be you and Malcolm that are bringing up you had it tough.

Most on here are discussing that people NOW have issue with buying.

It’s only the older posters who seem to think that people struggling now, is an insult to how hard they worked to get where they are, as if it’s some damage to their credibility. It’s odd.
 
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MalcSB

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,338
Ccfcisparks said:
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How do you keep missing the point of the topic again and again
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I’m starting to think it seems a bit laboured and manufactured.

I’m not sure it actually felt much better when I bought my first house in 1978. £8995 for a 3 bed semi with no central heating or double glazing. Bloody freezing in winter. Sold it two years later to the first family who came to view it for around £17,000. Moved for work to a more expensive area so all the equity disappeared on bigger deposit, removed costs, solicitors fees, stamp duty etc.

I was just so lucky!!!
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,339
Grendel said:
Not if you were a second time buyer and bought a much cheaper place earlier
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We were talking about people buying for the first time were we not?
 

Grendel

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,340
Ccfcisparks said:
Nobody is arguing that you may have struggled? It seems to be you and Malcolm that are bringing up you had it tough.

Most on here are discussing that people NOW have issue with buying.

It’s only the older posters who seem to think that people struggling now, is an insult to how hard they worked to get where they are, as if it’s some damage to their credibility. It’s odd.
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PVA isn't - he drives a Tesla
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • May 28, 2025
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MalcSB said:
I’m starting to think it seems a bit laboured and manufactured.

I’m not sure it actually felt much better when I bought my first house in 1978. £8995 for a 3 bed semi with no central heating or double glazing. Bloody freezing in winter. Sold it two years later to the first family who came to view it for around £17,000. Moved for work to a more expensive area so all the equity disappeared on bigger deposit, removed costs, solicitors fees, stamp duty etc.

I was just so lucky!!!
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Again someone else bringing up how tough they had it to discredit the fact that it is tough now.

ego is out of control
 

Grendel

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,342
Ccfcisparks said:
We were talking about people buying for the first time were we not?
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Yeah and I went into a low end and moved up - as everyone has to in reality
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,343
Grendel said:
PVA isn't - he drives a Tesla
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I don’t know what you’re talking about to be honest
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,344
Grendel said:
Yeah and I went into a low end and moved up - as everyone has to in reality
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And if there isn’t those low end options there?
 
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PVA

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  • May 28, 2025
  • #51,345
Grendel said:
PVA isn't - he drives a Tesla
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What the fuck are you on about you cretin?
 
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