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AOM

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  • Aug 11, 2021
  • #176
hill83 said:
I watched that again the other week. It's beautiful.
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It's brilliant. Especially as they're all expecting Premier League in the first series and they go the other way.
And then David Brent changing the stadium music in the second series
 
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Bugsy

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #177

Football's Mr Fix-It caught in sting to sell cash-strapped Derby

Undercover reporters met with Samuelson on behalf of an investor they called 'Mr X' and they were told how he could help their 'boss' in getting around the Football League's Fit and Proper Persons' test.
www.dailymail.co.uk

Anyone else seen this when Derby fans thought it couldn't get worse
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 15, 2021
  • #178
Bugsy said:

Football's Mr Fix-It caught in sting to sell cash-strapped Derby

Undercover reporters met with Samuelson on behalf of an investor they called 'Mr X' and they were told how he could help their 'boss' in getting around the Football League's Fit and Proper Persons' test.
www.dailymail.co.uk

Anyone else seen this when Derby fans thought it couldn't get worse
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He seems a lovely bloke and the two clubs he sorted both went bad.
 

better days

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  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #179
Bugsy said:

Football's Mr Fix-It caught in sting to sell cash-strapped Derby

Undercover reporters met with Samuelson on behalf of an investor they called 'Mr X' and they were told how he could help their 'boss' in getting around the Football League's Fit and Proper Persons' test.
www.dailymail.co.uk

Anyone else seen this when Derby fans thought it couldn't get worse
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Fucking hell
I thought it was impossible for Al Jazeera to look like the good guys
Football really is a cesspit at times
 

SBAndy

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  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #180
better days said:
Fucking hell
I thought it was impossible for Al Jazeera to look like the good guys
Football really is a cesspit at times
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The full AJ story was posted on the ‘Football & Other Sports’ board last week.
 

better days

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #181
SBAndy said:
The full AJ story was posted on the ‘Football & Other Sports’ board last week.
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I only read this board but just had a quick look out of curiosity
Thanks
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 16, 2021
  • #182
It’s a bit of a silly rule to be honest
 

Danceswithhorses

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #183
Oh no...Derby sign Phil Jagielka.
With his towering stature and youthful energy, we're all in trouble now
 
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COV

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #184
Danceswithhorses said:
Oh no...Derby sign Phil Jagielka.
With his towering stature and youthful energy, we're all in trouble now
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going by some of the names mentioned on here I’m surprised we weren’t in for him
 
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Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #185
COV said:
going by some of the names mentioned on here I’m surprised we weren’t in for him
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Wouldn't surprise me either. In fairness, it was our fan base that wanted to nominate 'Brinner' to be a club spokesman at one point.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #186
COV said:
going by some of the names mentioned on here I’m surprised we weren’t in for him
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Some on here wanted a back 3 of Fadz, Dann and Cranie. I'm sure Jagielka could have played CB and Cranie out to RWB
 
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COV

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #187
Ccfcisparks said:
Some on here wanted a back 3 of Fadz, Dann and Cranie. I'm sure Jagielka could have played CB and Cranie out to RWB
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Joleon Lescott is only 38, could we persuade him to sign for us?
 
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fatso

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #188
Danceswithhorses said:
Oh no...Derby sign Phil Jagielka.
With his towering stature and youthful energy, we're all in trouble now
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39 years of age, had no pre-season to speak of, and hasn’t played regular 90 minutes for 3 years or so. ........ what could possibly go wrong?
 
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PUSB-We_are_going_up

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #189
fatso said:
39 years of age, had no pre-season to speak of, and hasn’t played regular 90 minutes for 3 years or so. ........ what could possibly go wrong?
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How about Paolo Maldini Im sure he still has a lot to give
 
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Deleted member 5849

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  • Aug 17, 2021
  • #190
fatso said:
39 years of age, had no pre-season to speak of, and hasn’t played regular 90 minutes for 3 years or so. ........ what could possibly go wrong?
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Or... played more English top flight games last season than our entire squad has in their careers, trained with Derby all pre-season and, let's be honest, is probably there as a favour to a mate until January, in the hope they don't need to use him that often.
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #191
See they have an extra week to present their accounts.
 

Colin Steins Smile

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  • Aug 19, 2021
  • #192
wingy said:
See they have an extra week to present their accounts.
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I fail to understand why Derby need even more time to present audited accounts......it’s not hard..... unless you’re trying to manipulate the record
 
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wingy

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  • Aug 24, 2021
  • #193
"EFL release new Derby County statement as accounts deadline passes - Derbyshire Live" EFL release new Derby statement as accounts deadline passes
 

jim20

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  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #194
I don’t understand how they are being allowed to sign players when they still haven’t filed their accounts. Also will they be getting a points deduction or not? It seems that if it was most other clubs they would have had a 10 point deduction already, I don’t get why Derby aren’t being treated the same
 
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shmmeee

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  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #195
Didn’t we get an embargo just for taking advantage of the COVID relaxation of rules this year?

Come on Joy, get the lawyers out.
 
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Nick

Administrator
  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #196
Because it's Wayne Rooney's Derby County.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #197
They're a brand that the EFL feels is within their commercial interest to keep in the division. Both due to club size and the fact Rooney is in charge.

It's as simple as that unfortunately.
 

NortonSkyBlue

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  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #198
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
They're a brand that the EFL feels is within their commercial interest to keep in the division. Both due to club size and the fact Rooney is in charge.

It's as simple as that unfortunately.
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And the sad thing is that you believe that.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #199
riyadhskyblue said:
And the sad thing is that you believe that.
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And you're horribly naive if you don't believe that.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #200
Nick said:
Because it's Wayne Rooney's Derby County.
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No it is because they are acting within embargo rules
 
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Bugsy

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  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #201
Grendel said:
No it is because they are acting within embargo rules
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Yeah Wayne Rooney derby embargo rules, should have been done months ago the crafty barstools. How long ago did they last file the accounts....PUSB
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #202
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
And you're horribly naive if you don't believe that.
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The embargo allows players to be signed - this is clearly within the EFL rules. The issue is around professional standing. The EFL have conceded that the squad only had 18 players of professional standing and therefore had to sign 5 more to an already reduced squad of 23.

Points deductions can only come into force if the FFP rules have proved to be broken on submission of the accounts

The EFL cannot just ignore its rules because it is Wayne Rooney - the rules are agreed amongst all members
 
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skybluegod

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  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #203
Grendel said:
The embargo allows players to be signed - this is clearly within the EFL rules. The issue is around professional standing. The EFL have conceded that the squad only had 18 players of professional standing and therefore had to sign 5 more to an already reduced squad of 23.

Points deductions can only come into force if the FFP rules have proved to be broken on submission of the accounts

The EFL cannot just ignore its rules because it is Wayne Rooney - the rules are agreed amongst all members
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Didn't they then relax their ruling again to allow the replace kazim-richards with Baldock?

I actually think the EFL did the right thing allowing them to bring themselves up to 23 players, but then to relax it again because of an injury seemed a bit lenient to me.
 
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KenilworthSkyBlue

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  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #204
Grendel said:
The embargo allows players to be signed - this is clearly within the EFL rules. The issue is around professional standing. The EFL have conceded that the squad only had 18 players of professional standing and therefore had to sign 5 more to an already reduced squad of 23.

Points deductions can only come into force if the FFP rules have proved to be broken on submission of the accounts

The EFL cannot just ignore its rules because it is Wayne Rooney - the rules are agreed amongst all members
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It can mould or relax the punishment to suit their own agenda though - which they did with Sheffield Wednesday. It reduced the 12 point deduction when there was absolutely zero grounds for it to be and the reasoning they gave was pathetic.

If they find anything untoward in their accounts then I expect similar leniency.
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #205
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It can mould or relax the punishment to suit their own agenda though - which they did with Sheffield Wednesday. It reduced the 12 point deduction when there was absolutely zero grounds for it to be and the reasoning they gave was pathetic.

If they find anything untoward in their accounts then I expect similar leniency.
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I don't believe in points reductions anyway unless clubs fail to pay players for a period of time or fall into administration - I don't see the point in the FFP rules
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #206
Grendel said:
I don't believe in points reductions anyway unless clubs fail to pay players for a period of time or fall into administration - I don't see the point in the FFP rules
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So you're happy with clubs totally taking the piss and running unlimited losses to chase the dragon
 

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #207
Grendel said:
No it is because they are acting within embargo rules
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Us and a few other clubs were in embargo for not filing accounts on time despite govt legislation allowing for it. No extension was given despite the club not having to legally submit them.

So why were Derby given an extension? After all their's was only to resubmit parts of the accounts, not all of them and the original fault was the clubs for massaging the figures. Something like that should have been simple to rectify and the only reason it could be taking longer is cos the actual figures don't tell the story they want. Well, tough shit.

It's like a kid being caught cheating in an exam and then been given extra time at the end to finish.
 

Frostie

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  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #208
KenilworthSkyBlue said:
It can mould or relax the punishment to suit their own agenda though - which they did with Sheffield Wednesday. It reduced the 12 point deduction when there was absolutely zero grounds for it to be and the reasoning they gave was pathetic.

If they find anything untoward in their accounts then I expect similar leniency.
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Not quite true & a common misconception.

The EFL didn't decide on the amount of points to deduct from Wednesday or the decision to later half that deduction, it's all decided by an independent panel. I believe EFL actually campaigned against the penalty being reduced.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #209
Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
Us and a few other clubs were in embargo for not filing accounts on time despite govt legislation allowing for it. No extension was given despite the club not having to legally submit them.

So why were Derby given an extension? After all their's was only to resubmit parts of the accounts, not all of them and the original fault was the clubs for massaging the figures. Something like that should have been simple to rectify and the only reason it could be taking longer is cos the actual figures don't tell the story they want. Well, tough shit.

It's like a kid being caught cheating in an exam and then been given extra time at the end to finish.
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They are in embargo what are you on about?
 

Grendel

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  • Aug 25, 2021
  • #210
Brighton Sky Blue said:
So you're happy with clubs totally taking the piss and running unlimited losses to chase the dragon
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If they are able to support this through other sources yes. Stoke are not going bankrupt - they are bankrolled.

I worked for a company that regularly lost hundreds of millions a year
 
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