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Skybluemichael

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  • Jun 28, 2022
  • #841
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Interesting new development

Exclusive: Wayne Rooney agency defends paying Derby County wages

Triple S Group made payments to players and staff to keep failed Chris Kirchner takeover on track
www.telegraph.co.uk
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That seems high £1.6m for one month’s wage’s don’t they only have 5 players and some staff
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 28, 2022
  • #842
Skybluemichael said:
That seems high £1.6m for one month’s wage’s don’t they only have 5 players and some staff
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They might do as if the end of June when contracts usually expire but not necessarily at the point the wages were paid

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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 28, 2022
  • #843
Talk this could lead to another sanction as it breached FFP rules, would Quantuma not have had to accept the payment?
 

Skybluemichael

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #844
fernandopartridge said:
They might do as if the end of June when contracts usually expire but not necessarily at the point the wages were paid

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No the point I’m making is they have been in admin for what 10 months and still have a higher wage bill the us and turned down offers for their players, if the admin got it under control that wouldn’t need to go cap in hand asking for loans
 
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fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #845
Skybluemichael said:
No the point I’m making is they have been in admin for what 10 months and still have a higher wage bill the us and turned down offers for their players, if the admin got it under control that wouldn’t need to go cap in hand asking for loans
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£1.6m a month is probably not too far off where our existing wage bill is. It's also significantly lower than what it was, they literally could not field a team without some of their residual high earners. They've sold loads of young players on the cheap too.

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Frostie

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #846
fernandopartridge said:
£1.6m a month is probably not too far off where our existing wage bill is. It's also significantly lower than what it was, they literally could not field a team without some of their residual high earners. They've sold loads of young players on the cheap too.

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They will also be paying all last season's contracts up until end of July unless the players in question have found themselves a new club already.
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #847
Surely third parties can't pay the wages?
 

Terry Gibson's perm

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #848
Nick said:
Surely third parties can't pay the wages?
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I can’t understand why the agents paid the wages they are not normally known for their great charity efforts.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #849
Nick said:
Surely third parties can't pay the wages?
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Rooney’s resignation looks timely now…
 
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oldfiver

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  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #850
Skybluemichael said:
No the point I’m making is they have been in admin for what 10 months and still have a higher wage bill the us and turned down offers for their players, if the admin got it under control that wouldn’t need to go cap in hand asking for loans
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When CovRFC went into Admin they were offered use of the Ricoh.
The players agreed to play for no pay
There was a collection and donations for players.. At the point of these being handed over the Receiver claimed them !
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South West Sky Blue

Well-Known Member
  • Jun 29, 2022
  • #851
fernandopartridge said:
£1.6m a month is probably not too far off where our existing wage bill is. It's also significantly lower than what it was, they literally could not field a team without some of their residual high earners. They've sold loads of young players on the cheap too.

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Can’t disagree with what you’re saying, but they could have done a LOT more. There were high value, high wages players who were allegedly attracting interest in the January transfer window. They chose not to sell. Probably did this coz they wanted more money / thought they could survive in the Championship.
However, it nullifies any sympathy I have for the club (not the fans- they’re separate. They deserve sympathy IMO).
Even if the public interest in key players wasn’t genuine, they could have easily proactively sold players to raise decent funds.
Could’ve completed their fixtures with a couple extra youth players and saved a couple million + on wages and transfer fees. Wouldn’t have been a great spectacle, but more financially prudent and honest.
 

Danceswithhorses

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  • Jun 30, 2022
  • #852
I'm sure Derby fans will be delighted...but it begs the question where was this guy 3/6/12/18 months ago, when they really needed a saviour, instead of all the charlatans they tried to do deals with?
Seems he came out of nowhere, is a local lad, and got the deal done in super quick time, with no messing about, so kudos to him, i guess.
Only worry is, will he have 'enough' money to satisfy Derby fans, who based on those i know, still think they're a top tier club in waiting....erm, guys, it's 50 years since you were good !
They've also become accustomed to top draw players on big wages, so will they be happy with some frugality and league 1 struggles (hopefully lol) ?

Derby County: David Clowes expected to complete takeover of League One club on Thursday

League One club Derby County's takeover by local business David Clowes is expected to be completed on Thursday.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Macca1987

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  • Jun 30, 2022
  • #853
The worry is, if the takeover doesn't happen today, we will tick over into July and that should under EFL rules incur a points penalty
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jun 30, 2022
  • #854
White knight arrives as expected
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jun 30, 2022
  • #855
Danceswithhorses said:
I'm sure Derby fans will be delighted...but it begs the question where was this guy 3/6/12/18 months ago, when they really needed a saviour, instead of all the charlatans they tried to do deals with?
Seems he came out of nowhere, is a local lad, and got the deal done in super quick time, with no messing about, so kudos to him, i guess.
Only worry is, will he have 'enough' money to satisfy Derby fans, who based on those i know, still think they're a top tier club in waiting....erm, guys, it's 50 years since you were good !
They've also become accustomed to top draw players on big wages, so will they be happy with some frugality and league 1 struggles (hopefully lol) ?

Derby County: David Clowes expected to complete takeover of League One club on Thursday

League One club Derby County's takeover by local business David Clowes is expected to be completed on Thursday.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Looks like he just waited until the price was sufficiently distressed

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shepardo01

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  • Jun 30, 2022
  • #856
So they go from not having money (but paying players (Lawrence) over 20k p/w (more than we could offer!) .....to being able to offer these two contracts!!
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jun 30, 2022
  • #857
Would them two have much interest at Championship level now? Careers seem on the way down
 
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shepardo01

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  • Jun 30, 2022
  • #858
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Would them two have much interest at Championship level now? Careers seem on the way down
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Wasn't Chester a regular at Stoke last year?....(not sure though without looking) I'd still say that they'd command a decent wage! Something that I thought Derby should struggle to pay considering their finances.... but it seems that they will!
That's the thing I don't quite get!??
 
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procdoc

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #859
Takeover now complete
 

Hobo

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #860
Probably just in time to avoid further sanctions.

His statement seems sensibily, very much about stabilization and the long term rather than quick success.

Derby fans need to be patient something football fans aren't blessed with.
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #861
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #862
SlowerThanPlatt said:
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Looks like they're booking in to league 1 for the long run

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SomersetSB

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  • Jul 1, 2022
  • #863
fernandopartridge said:
Looks like they're booking in to league 1 for the long run

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Could be another Sunderland down there”HMS piss the league” I feel.
 
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Flying Fokker

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  • Jul 2, 2022
  • #864
We blitzed it didn’t we? Unforgettable, bargain basement managers. Not forgetting our journey into league 2 after a few years. I’m sure we all wish them well, given that football rarely offers us any certainty. Great to see the club saved for the fans.
 

Danceswithhorses

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  • Jul 2, 2022
  • #865
Flying Fokker said:
I’m sure we all wish them well, given that football rarely offers us any certainty.
Great to see the club saved for the fans.
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They're saved, but imho, their fans will want instant success due to the mad fallacy that they are still a 'big club'.
I don't think the new owner is super wealthy, but to his credit, it looks like he has his head screwed on regarding finances ie no more £8m signing from Arsenal that you can't afford and still haven't settled (Bielik 19/20).....looks like they paid £5m for Waghorn as recently as 2018
Here's hoping for years, nay decades, of mediocrity for the male sheep lovers
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 2, 2022
  • #866
Wasting no time, 2 new signings and contract extensions tonight
 

junglej13

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 2, 2022
  • #867
Wonder if the picture surrounding Buchanan will quickly become clearer.
 

mark82

Super Moderator
  • Jul 3, 2022
  • #868
Feel like players that will command big wages for a team that's just been in the shit Derby have.
 
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skyblue025

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  • Jul 4, 2022
  • #869
junglej13 said:
Wonder if the picture surrounding Buchanan will quickly become clearer.
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He's going to Werder Bremen according to SSN.
 

better days

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  • Jul 4, 2022
  • #870
I've heard Karl Robinson might be in the frame for the manager's job
There was talk of Sean Dyche too but I think he's waiting for an opportunity higher up the pyramid
 
Last edited: Jul 4, 2022

SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 4, 2022
  • #871
better days said:
I've heard Karl Robinson might be in the frame for the manager's job
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Ah yes, the Oxford manager!
 
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SlowerThanPlatt

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  • Jul 4, 2022
  • #872
mark82 said:
Feel like players that will command big wages for a team that's just been in the shit Derby have.
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Also trying to sign McGoldrick
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Jul 4, 2022
  • #873
SlowerThanPlatt said:
Also trying to sign McGoldrick
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Thought he'd signed for a Championship club a few days ago? (clearly not, if what you've posted is correct!)
 

SlowerThanPlatt

Well-Known Member
  • Jul 4, 2022
  • #874
Sky Blue Harry H said:
Thought he'd signed for a Championship club a few days ago? (clearly not, if what you've posted is correct!)
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Yeah, was supposed to Boro work with Wilder again, that’s not transpired yet
 
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Terry Gibson's perm

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  • Jul 7, 2022
  • #875
Derby look like they don’t fancy a long stay in league one getting plenty of steady old pros in
 
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