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Paxman II

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  • Dec 3, 2021
  • #386
The problem Derby have in finding a buyer is that they are nailed on to be a league 1 club.
HMRC are not bound to offer a deal but a football club is a huge part of a community unlike the local Tesco. Some sort of exception needs to be given but Morris must be held accountable at the same time. if a deal is to be found by negotiation then that must include Morris having a big input towards Derby's debt.
 

Danceswithhorses

Well-Known Member
  • Dec 3, 2021
  • #387
Paxman II said:
The problem Derby have in finding a buyer is that they are nailed on to be a league 1 club.
HMRC are not bound to offer a deal but a football club is a huge part of a community unlike the local Tesco. Some sort of exception needs to be given but Morris must be held accountable at the same time. if a deal is to be found by negotiation then that must include Morris having a big input towards Derby's debt.
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It was the Derby board, with Mel Morris as Chairman, that took suicidal financial risks with the football club.
Therefore, it should be those officers of the company, who put their hands in their own pockets to rescue Derby, and not HMRC (collecting money on behalf of the taxpayer)
 
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NortonSkyBlue

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  • Dec 3, 2021
  • #388
Danceswithhorses said:
It was the Derby board, with Mel Morris as Chairman, that took suicidal financial risks with the football club.
Therefore, it should be those officers of the company, who put their hands in their own pockets to rescue Derby, and not HMRC (collecting money on behalf of the taxpayer)
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Nothing to do with the officers of the company anymore.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Dec 3, 2021
  • #389
riyadhskyblue said:
Nothing to do with the officers of the company anymore.
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Danceswithhorses

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  • Dec 3, 2021
  • #390
riyadhskyblue said:
Nothing to do with the officers of the company anymore.
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No, but it should be...shame they can't be held accountable for their incompetence.
 
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oldfiver

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  • Dec 3, 2021
  • #391
Danceswithhorses said:
No, but it should be...shame they can't be held accountable for their incompetence.
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Incompetence is a shaky area but wilfull neglect can lead to financial and criminal penalties
 

Danceswithhorses

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  • Dec 25, 2021
  • #392
Seems Kirchner (Rooney's preferred choice) has pulled out of his Derby bid...i always thought he sounded like a publicity seeking guy.
Ah well, 2 other bids left on the table for Derby...lets see if either come to fruition and if HMRC stays strong on the PAYE money owed.

Derby County: Chris Kirchner withdraws bid to buy Championship club

US businessman Chris Kirchner withdraws his bid to buy Championship club Derby County.
www.bbc.co.uk
 

Flying Fokker

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  • Dec 25, 2021
  • #393
Danceswithhorses said:
It was the Derby board, with Mel Morris as Chairman, that took suicidal financial risks with the football club.
Therefore, it should be those officers of the company, who put their hands in their own pockets to rescue Derby, and not HMRC (collecting money on behalf of the taxpayer)
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That sounds familiar.
 
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coop

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #394
Watching Derby beating WBA we gave WBA to much respect Derby have been in there faces from the off.
 

fatso

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  • Dec 27, 2021
  • #395
coop said:
Watching Derby beating WBA we gave WBA to much respect Derby have been in there faces from the off.
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Helps when west brom gift wrap a festive goal for Derby, and it was their only attempt on target.
 
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Warwickhunt

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  • Dec 28, 2021
  • #396
fatso said:
Helps when west brom gift wrap a festive goal for Derby, and it was their only attempt on target.
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Good result for us! WBA Keeps us in touch with them.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Dec 28, 2021
  • #397
fatso said:
Helps when west brom gift wrap a festive goal for Derby, and it was their only attempt on target.
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Helps when Derby started with actual centre backs playing at centre back
 

Sky Blue Harry H

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  • Dec 28, 2021
  • #398
Brighton Sky Blue said:
Helps when Derby started with actual centre backs playing at centre back
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shepardo01

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  • Jan 7, 2022
  • #399
 
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SBT

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  • Jan 7, 2022
  • #400
Why would Ashley want to get back into football having cashed out of Newcastle? Bizarre man, bizarre business.
 
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Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 7, 2022
  • #401
shepardo01 said:
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He’d be much better than our incompetent owners
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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  • Jan 7, 2022
  • #402
SBT said:
Why would Ashley want to get back into football having cashed out of Newcastle? Bizarre man, bizarre business.
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He’d be ideal
 
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higgs

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  • Jan 7, 2022
  • #403
Brighton Sky Blue said:
He’d be ideal
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Sick Boy

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  • Jan 8, 2022
  • #404
Rooney seems to have the makings of a very good manager.
 

eastwoodsdustman

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  • Jan 8, 2022
  • #405
Sick Boy said:
Rooney seems to have the makings of a very good manager.
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So did Pressley when he got us around the play offs with a big points deduction. Time will tell.
 

Sick Boy

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  • Jan 8, 2022
  • #406
eastwoodsdustman said:
So did Pressley when he got us around the play offs with a big points deduction. Time will tell.
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There were a sizeable number of posters on here who were writing him off and calling him thick before he’d even managed a game for them.
 
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higgs

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  • Jan 8, 2022
  • #407
Couldn't of imagined him becoming a manager time will tell I suppose. If the take over happens and they sign some more good players this month it will be an exciting end to the season

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slowpoke

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  • Jan 8, 2022
  • #408
I think Rooney could become a good manager at top level too. Football wise he’s got it all and I think he’s street wise and he’s smart enough to surround himself with experienced back room staff. Doing well at Derby under the toughest of circumstances too. Maybe not ready for a Man United type job yet, who is, a Southampton or even Everton ??
 
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Frostie

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  • Jan 15, 2022
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Grendel

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  • Jan 15, 2022
  • #410
What is the reference to Wycombe and boro?
 
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steve cooper

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  • Jan 15, 2022
  • #411
Middlesboro lost out to Derby in the playoffs a couple of seasons or so back, and Wycombe got relegated when Derby should have got a points deduction that season, is what I assume.
 

Ccfcisparks

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  • Jan 15, 2022
  • #412
steve cooper said:
Middlesboro lost out to Derby in the playoffs a couple of seasons or so back, and Wycombe got relegated when Derby should have got a points deduction that season, is what I assume.
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Didn’t Derby owe middlesboro loads for a transfer?
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 15, 2022
  • #413
steve cooper said:
Middlesboro lost out to Derby in the playoffs a couple of seasons or so back, and Wycombe got relegated when Derby should have got a points deduction that season, is what I assume.
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I can’t see how that’s not the EfLs fight
 
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baldy

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  • Jan 15, 2022
  • #414
higgs said:
Couldn't of imagined him becoming a manager time will tell I suppose. If the take over happens and they sign some more good players this month it will be an exciting end to the season

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Exciting for who? Not me…couldn’t give a fuck about Derby
 
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Grendel

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  • Jan 15, 2022
  • #415
It is this it seems

Next Derby owners face £1m legal bill as compensation claims head for court

DERBY’S next owners face an EXTRA £1million-plus legal bill as compensation claims by Middlesbrough and Wycombe head for an ugly court battle. Boss Wayne Rooney’s Rams hope to come out of administr…
www.thesun.co.uk
 
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steve cooper

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  • Jan 15, 2022
  • #416
A bit more about it here

EFL sent Derby warning after Middlesbrough and Wycombe update

Answering questions sent to them by Rams supporter group Black & White Together, the club's administrators Quantuma state that claims will not prevent a preferred bidder from being named
www.derbytelegraph.co.uk
I guess it's a case of whether it can be proven that Derby pulled the wool over EFL's eyes, and how much they did.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 15, 2022
  • #417
steve cooper said:
A bit more about it here

EFL sent Derby warning after Middlesbrough and Wycombe update

Answering questions sent to them by Rams supporter group Black & White Together, the club's administrators Quantuma state that claims will not prevent a preferred bidder from being named
www.derbytelegraph.co.uk
I guess it's a case of whether it can be proven that Derby pulled the wool over EFL's eyes, and how much they did.
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middlesborough claim is ridiculous I assume they lost the play off semi final
 
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steve cooper

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  • Jan 15, 2022
  • #418
Grendel said:
middlesborough claim is ridiculous I assume they lost the play off semi final
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In the highly unlikely possibility Middlesboro win that, just imagine the can of worms it would open.
 

slowpoke

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  • Jan 15, 2022
  • #419
Middlesbrough won’t win it if there’s any blame it’s with the EFL for mis-management same with the Wycombe situation.
 
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wingy

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  • Jan 15, 2022
  • #420
Wycombe claim is laudible IMO.
The knowledge was out there and the action deferred to this season on the basis of potential takeovers.
At least it was out as much as SW and others.
 
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