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skybluesam66

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #71
Grendel said:
No one will. The real fly in the ointment here is the real possibility of promotion
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Sisu may also think about cashing in if that were the case
£9m was for a league 2 club
Would there be somebody willing to pay £25m for a championship club, even without a ground?

Fisher used to talk about not selling at the bottom of the cycle
Without serious investment, promotion may well be the top of the cycle
 

jordan210

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #72
If Duggins is chatting about the Ricoh something is going on. He only ever starts to talk to the press to deflect from something.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #73
skybluesam66 said:
Sisu may also think about cashing in if that were the case
£9m was for a league 2 club
Would there be somebody willing to pay £25m for a championship club, even without a ground?

Fisher used to talk about not selling at the bottom of the cycle
Without serious investment, promotion may well be the top of the cycle
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We have no ground. Who with any real clout would want to be tenants in a stadium with Wasps? It still in the end is worthless in real terms
 
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The coventrian

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #74
Duggins needs gagging period.
On a side note,cant people just enjoy another away win without dragging this shite up again.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #75
Grendel said:
We have no ground. Who with any real clout would want to be tenants in a stadium with Wasps? It still in the end is worthless in real terms
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I’d imagine the thought behind the Trusts takeover attempts is that they’d instantly have a better relationship to start with wasps and agree to more favourable terms

after all all of this is a major attempt by the council, trust and wasps at a hostile takeover
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #76
The coventrian said:
Duggins needs gagging period.
On a side note,cant people just enjoy another away win without dragging this shite up again.
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The point is, why's it being dragged up?
 
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skybluesam66

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #77
Grendel said:
We have no ground. Who with any real clout would want to be tenants in a stadium with Wasps? It still in the end is worthless in real terms
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Championship players have a big premium
Wasps would do a deal with anybody but Sisu
And then if somebody was really interested, the premier league Pot of gold would be only 1 promotion away
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #78
skybluesam66 said:
Championship players have a big premium
Wasps would do a deal with anybody but Sisu
And then if somebody was really interested, the premier league Pot of gold would be only 1 promotion away
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What makes you think they would do a deal?

Would the buyer want to do a deal that limited us?
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #79
Wasps have put themselves in a corner with Sisu
anybody else, they would jump at the chance to save face
 

Hobo

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #80
Nick said:
They love trying to stir up Ricoh stuff, wish Clive would fuck off.

Random callers with no idea about anything.

Great win and it's hardly been discussed.
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I tbought they tried to play the chances down - saying its not our choice Wasps would have to agree a deal?
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #81
skybluesam66 said:
Championship players have a big premium
Wasps would do a deal with anybody but Sisu
And then if somebody was really interested, the premier league Pot of gold would be only 1 promotion away
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No one really understands sisus end game though do they?

if they really believe they can win in court and also bring down Wasps they won’t sell will they?

I suspect gene backers on the other side of this argument are starting to panic. Promotion to a league with much greater media exposure will mean more scrutiny and negative publicity for wasps and the council and the probability of bigger crowds even away from Coventry than the Ricoh tenant

they know it’s going to allow Sisu to call more shots for a couple of years - it’s going to get worse on the PR side if the winning carries on
 
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skybluesam66

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #82
Grendel said:
No one really understands sisus end game though do they?

if they really believe they can win in court and also bring down Wasps they won’t sell will they?

I suspect gene backers on the other side of this argument are starting to panic. Promotion to a league with much greater media exposure will mean more scrutiny and negative publicity for wasps and the council and the probability of bigger crowds even away from Coventry than the Ricoh tenant

they know it’s going to allow Sisu to call more shots for a couple of years - it’s going to get worse on the PR side if the winning carries on
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Fair point - City of culture and all that aswell!
 
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The coventrian

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #83
Nick said:
The point is, why's it being dragged up?
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They'll be certain people who will be shit scared of us getting promotion. As grendel says itll strengthen Sisu's position as they'll be able to keep the club out of the city for another couple of years.
It's pretty obvious certain people are deparate for the club to be back at the ricoh under any circumstances.
 
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #84
The coventrian said:
They'll be certain people who will be shit scared of us getting promotion. As grendel says itll strengthen Sisu's position as they'll be able to keep the club out of the city for another couple of years.
It's pretty obvious certain people are deparate for the club to be back at the ricoh under any circumstances.
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Which is the clubs major issue. Once people realise we need to control our own destiny, then that’s when the penny will drop.

unfortunately - people with influence are managing to divide the fanbase with the “its all SISU” rhetoric.

promotion would be embarrassing for the city of sport
 
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Adge

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #85
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Which is the clubs major issue. Once people realise we need to control our own destiny, then that’s when the penny will drop.

unfortunately - people with influence are managing to divide the fanbase with the “its all SISU” rhetoric.

promotion would be embarrassing for the city of sport
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Similarly also with the “it’s different this time“ line.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #86
Adge said:
Similarly also with the “it’s different this time“ line.
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Well it is and there is nothing anyone but wasps can do about it - last time it was always possible for the club to return at any time so of course that’s a huge difference

Unless wasps change their stance then we may not return for 6 years
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #87
HuckerbyDublinWhelan said:
Which is the clubs major issue. Once people realise we need to control our own destiny, then that’s when the penny will drop.

unfortunately - people with influence are managing to divide the fanbase with the “its all SISU” rhetoric.

promotion would be embarrassing for the city of sport
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It’s already embarrassing for city of culture
 

shmmeee

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #88
People need to stop seeing conspiracy theories at every turn. It was bollocks when Sisu were about to asset strip us or move us to fucking Timbuktu or whatever and it’s bollocks that a fucking council and a few old men in a pub are planning a “hostile takeover”.

Jesus.

Literally everything is explainable by incompetence and egotistical malice.
 
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Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #89
Grendel said:
Well it is and there is nothing anyone but wasps can do about it - last time it was always possible for the club to return at any time so of course that’s a huge difference

Unless wasps change their stance then we may not return for 6 years
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Previously said it and for lots of people including myself, the ingredients are different but the meal served is still the same. There’s no getting away from that I’m afraid.
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #90
shmmeee said:
People need to stop seeing conspiracy theories at every turn. It was bollocks when Sisu were about to asset strip us or move us to fucking Timbuktu or whatever and it’s bollocks that a fucking council and a few old men in a pub are planning a “hostile takeover”.

Jesus.

Literally everything is explainable by incompetence and egotistical malice.
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Jesus Christ. The trust a few years ago tried exactly that as you clearly know you imbecile,
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #91
Adge said:
Previously said it and for lots of people including myself, the ingredients are different but the meal served is still the same. There’s no getting away from that I’m afraid.
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Then you are making George Duggins and Nick Eastwoods life a lot easier. I hope you get the benefits from them
 

Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #92
Grendel said:
Then you are making George Duggins and Nick Eastwoods life a lot easier. I hope you get the benefits from them
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Yeah-got my Wasps top and half season ticket for Christmas!
 

Grendel

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #93
Adge said:
Yeah-got my Wasps top and half season ticket for Christmas!
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The reality is every time you post they punch the air with delight
 

Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #94
Grendel said:
The reality is every time you post they punch the air with delight
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Aye, similarly another party gets let off the hook with your replies above.
 
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pastythegreat

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #95
shmmeee said:
People need to stop seeing conspiracy theories at every turn. It was bollocks when Sisu were about to asset strip us or move us to fucking Timbuktu or whatever and it’s bollocks that a fucking council and a few old men in a pub are planning a “hostile takeover”.

Jesus.

Literally everything is explainable by incompetence and egotistical malice.
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The Trust tried exactly that. They were pivotal in the failed Hoffman takeover bid. W**ps were also involved. Overton pulled out because of it. He said so in his own words. Or is it not true until w**ps publish it themselves in their own words?

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Tommo1993

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #96
Clive is allowed an opinion, should probably try to not force it on air though. Keep it professional and impartial as the job calls for. Sounds like more and more people are getting anxious about returning to Coventry. Deep down I believe Wasps are depending on it. It’s just a giant fuck of a mess.
 

Grendel

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #97
Adge said:
Aye, similarly another party gets let off the hook with your replies above.
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No as the other party have zero influence on us returning - do you accept this is a fact?
 

stevefloyd

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #98
lord_garrincha said:
Personally, I think 'Pete' was a plank.
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Corrected for you
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #99
Adge said:
Aye, similarly another party gets let off the hook with your replies above.
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Serious question, what do you think needs to happen to facilitate a return to Coventry, given the current circumstances?
 
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Sky Blue Pete

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #100
MalcSB said:
Serious question, what do you think needs to happen to facilitate a return to Coventry, given the current circumstances?
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Change of ownership (sale) and agreement between new owners and wasps to play at the Ricoh
 

Adge

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #101
MalcSB said:
Serious question, what do you think needs to happen to facilitate a return to Coventry, given the current circumstances?
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Lets not forget what and who has led us to arrive at this station-for some reason this seems to get locked away in a drawer.
From what we understand (and we don’t know the honest truth as none of us were party to discussions behind the scenes etc) one party has to back down. Again, from what we understand, that party is Wasps.
 

Adge

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #102
Grendel said:
No as the other party have zero influence on us returning - do you accept this is a fact?
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I accept that these are a villain of the piece that has made us arrive at this station. Not sure why you can’t see that aswell?
 

Nick

Administrator
  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #103
shmmeee said:
People need to stop seeing conspiracy theories at every turn. It was bollocks when Sisu were about to asset strip us or move us to fucking Timbuktu or whatever and it’s bollocks that a fucking council and a few old men in a pub are planning a “hostile takeover”.

Jesus.

Literally everything is explainable by incompetence and egotistical malice.
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You keep saying it's bollocks but it's already happened? (Well, attempted)

You do realise that, right?
 

MalcSB

Well-Known Member
  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #104
Adge said:
Lets not forget what and who has led us to arrive at this station-for some reason this seems to get kicked away in a drawer.
From what we understand (and we don’t know the honest truth as none of us were party to discussions behind the scenes etc) one party has to back down. Again, from what we understand, that party is Wasps.
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So how do we get wasps to back down?
 

fernandopartridge

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  • Jan 1, 2020
  • #105
Grendel said:
No one will. The real fly in the ointment here is the real possibility of promotion
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Imagine the meltdown in CCC towers if we got promoted
 
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