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StrettoBoy

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Reminded me of Shane Warne treading on his stumps. Luck was on our side today!

I'm not sure we had any more luck than India did.

Yes, Siraj's wicket looked a tad fortunate but Jadeja was arguably lucky to escape being LBW to Woakes on review.

We won because we bowled well and Stokes offered tremendous leadership and worked his socks off. I really think we deserved it.
 
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Skyblue Bangkok

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I'm not sure we had any more luck than India did.

Yes, Siraj's wicket looked a tad fortunate but Jadeja was arguably lucky to escape being LBW to Woakes on review.

We won because we bowled well and Stokes offered tremendous leadership and worked his socks off. I really think we deserved it.
Some of the best test games I've seen are when a team are chasing a low 4 th innings score to win. Like Australia during Bothams ashes series , lost chasing 134 I think and then test at Edgbaston 150. Plus yesterday of course.
 

StrettoBoy

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Some of the best test games I've seen are when a team are chasing a low 4 th innings score to win. Like Australia during Bothams ashes series , lost chasing 134 I think and then test at Edgbaston 150. Plus yesterday of course.

I completely agree.

Low scoring test matches are often the best. With the first innings scores tied this was effectively a low scoring one innings match.

It just shows that you don't need batsmen tonking it over the ropes every over for it to be a thriller.
 

tisza

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Nothing we didn't know. Is it not time to reduce the number full-time counties? Might be harsh but would ease calendar pressure, potentially strengthen level of play by concentrating resources and most obviously bolster remaining counties finances.
They've basically killed the county aspect of cricket anyway - redball attendances gone, 50 over a sideshow with poor attendances, 20/20 being strangled. (Could save 20/20 if less teams)
 

SBAndy

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Nothing we didn't know. Is it not time to reduce the number full-time counties? Might be harsh but would ease calendar pressure, potentially strengthen level of play by concentrating resources and most obviously bolster remaining counties finances.
They've basically killed the county aspect of cricket anyway - redball attendances gone, 50 over a sideshow with poor attendances, 20/20 being strangled. (Could save 20/20 if less teams)

Feels inherently ‘unfair’ but equally having 18 counties competing is a bad number to work with. If you could trim it to 16 it means you can have 4 regional groups in the T20 rather than the north/south split which trims the games. 50 over games could be on a pure knockout format.
 

chiefdave

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Nothing we didn't know. Is it not time to reduce the number full-time counties? Might be harsh but would ease calendar pressure, potentially strengthen level of play by concentrating resources and most obviously bolster remaining counties finances.
They've basically killed the county aspect of cricket anyway - redball attendances gone, 50 over a sideshow with poor attendances, 20/20 being strangled. (Could save 20/20 if less teams)
Feels a bit of a strech to claim the Hundred saved county cricket. This report doesn't tell us anything we don't already know. The test hosting counties make the vast majority of the revenue and the smaller counties are reliant on a revenue split from things like TV rights.

Its a bit like saying Bournemouth would struggle if they didn't get Sky money!

Its seems like the powers that be are too scared to have the discussion that needs to take place over the long term future of the game at county level which just means they're killing it by pushing the county game to the fringes. Nobody wants to sit at an empty Edgbaston in April freezing to death, in some cases we've literally had snow when games should be on. And they're doing a successful job of killing the Blast so they can bin it off before rebranding the Hundred a T20 competition which I think everyone now accepts is inevitable.
 

chiefdave

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Feels inherently ‘unfair’ but equally having 18 counties competing is a bad number to work with. If you could trim it to 16 it means you can have 4 regional groups in the T20 rather than the north/south split which trims the games. 50 over games could be on a pure knockout format.
8 and 8 works but then brings you to your next problem. If the 8 test / hundred hosting grounds bring all the revenue then you want them as your top tier so you're working towards a no promotion / relegation scenario.

A top tier of Warwickshire, Surrey, Lancs, Yorks, Notts, Hampshire and Glamorgan. But then do you go Durham or Middlesex?

Which two teams out of Somerset, Sussex, Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Northants, Essex, Worcester and Glous are you dumping out of county cricket?

Or do you dump a couple into a semi-pro third tier with the 6 MCC universities?

3 tiers of 8 teams where there is a clear pathway, for example Worcester and Loughborough Uni being under the Warwickshire umbrella, might work well for player development without the smaller teams needing to generate revenue to match the big teams but its going to an incredibly hard sell to the members.
 

tisza

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8 and 8 works but then brings you to your next problem. If the 8 test / hundred hosting grounds bring all the revenue then you want them as your top tier so you're working towards a no promotion / relegation scenario.

A top tier of Warwickshire, Surrey, Lancs, Yorks, Notts, Hampshire and Glamorgan. But then do you go Durham or Middlesex?

Which two teams out of Somerset, Sussex, Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Northants, Essex, Worcester and Glous are you dumping out of county cricket?

Or do you dump a couple into a semi-pro third tier with the 6 MCC universities?

3 tiers of 8 teams where there is a clear pathway, for example Worcester and Loughborough Uni being under the Warwickshire umbrella, might work well for player development without the smaller teams needing to generate revenue to match the big teams but its going to an incredibly hard sell to the members.
It's 2 out of Derby, Leicester, Northants & Gloucester - probably the first 2. But which ever 2 remain are still going to be firmly tied to the bottom of the pyramid due to finances.
 

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