Brighton Sky Blue
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Very entertaining finish in store over in the Windies
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Skyblue Bangkok
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Oh yes
Skyblue Bangkok
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The drama and excitement was amazing ,as was the atmosphere This was proper Test cricket,the best form of cricket.
ovduk78
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WI were 26/9 when I last checked, Starc has 5 & Boland got a hat-trick
Skyblue Bangkok
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I remember the days when the West Indies were the best at Test cricket.
Brighton Sky Blue
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All out for 27, just one run more than the all time Test record
Skyblue Bangkok
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NZ hold the record with 26 all out.
Brighton Sky Blue
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A part of the world with such a rich cricketing heritage, it's not nice to see.
tisza
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Absolutely. was gripped all day. And good Test cricket is the ultimate form of the game
StrettoBoy
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I'm not sure we had any more luck than India did.
Yes, Siraj's wicket looked a tad fortunate but Jadeja was arguably lucky to escape being LBW to Woakes on review.
We won because we bowled well and Stokes offered tremendous leadership and worked his socks off. I really think we deserved it.
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Skyblue Bangkok
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Some of the best test games I've seen are when a team are chasing a low 4 th innings score to win. Like Australia during Bothams ashes series , lost chasing 134 I think and then test at Edgbaston 150. Plus yesterday of course.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Can add Trent Bridge 2005 to that, we squeezed home chasing just 120 something
StrettoBoy
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I completely agree.
Low scoring test matches are often the best. With the first innings scores tied this was effectively a low scoring one innings match.
It just shows that you don't need batsmen tonking it over the ropes every over for it to be a thriller.
Skyblue Bangkok
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129 and at one stage England were 116-7 before winning.
SkyBlueSoul
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They've just released Day 5 tickets for Old Trafford due to demand and all 3 matches going the distance so far. Brother's birthday tomorrow and haven't got him a present yet...
MusicDating
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It may sound like it but it absolutely wasn't. It was a tense, nailbiting thriller.
It was proper test cricket. The best match I can recall since Edgbaston in 2005 against the Aussies.
Was lucky enough to go 3 of the 4 days of the 2005 Edgbaston Test
tisza
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Hundred sell-off saved up to six counties from possible collapse, new report finds
The windfall generated by the sale of shares in the eight Hundred franchises may have saved as many as six first-class counties from crisis and possible collapse
Nothing we didn't know. Is it not time to reduce the number full-time counties? Might be harsh but would ease calendar pressure, potentially strengthen level of play by concentrating resources and most obviously bolster remaining counties finances.
They've basically killed the county aspect of cricket anyway - redball attendances gone, 50 over a sideshow with poor attendances, 20/20 being strangled. (Could save 20/20 if less teams)
SBAndy
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Hundred sell-off saved up to six counties from possible collapse, new report finds
The windfall generated by the sale of shares in the eight Hundred franchises may have saved as many as six first-class counties from crisis and possible collapsewww.theguardian.com
Nothing we didn't know. Is it not time to reduce the number full-time counties? Might be harsh but would ease calendar pressure, potentially strengthen level of play by concentrating resources and most obviously bolster remaining counties finances.
They've basically killed the county aspect of cricket anyway - redball attendances gone, 50 over a sideshow with poor attendances, 20/20 being strangled. (Could save 20/20 if less teams)
Feels inherently ‘unfair’ but equally having 18 counties competing is a bad number to work with. If you could trim it to 16 it means you can have 4 regional groups in the T20 rather than the north/south split which trims the games. 50 over games could be on a pure knockout format.
chiefdave
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Feels a bit of a strech to claim the Hundred saved county cricket. This report doesn't tell us anything we don't already know. The test hosting counties make the vast majority of the revenue and the smaller counties are reliant on a revenue split from things like TV rights.Hundred sell-off saved up to six counties from possible collapse, new report finds
The windfall generated by the sale of shares in the eight Hundred franchises may have saved as many as six first-class counties from crisis and possible collapse
Nothing we didn't know. Is it not time to reduce the number full-time counties? Might be harsh but would ease calendar pressure, potentially strengthen level of play by concentrating resources and most obviously bolster remaining counties finances.
They've basically killed the county aspect of cricket anyway - redball attendances gone, 50 over a sideshow with poor attendances, 20/20 being strangled. (Could save 20/20 if less teams)
Its a bit like saying Bournemouth would struggle if they didn't get Sky money!
Its seems like the powers that be are too scared to have the discussion that needs to take place over the long term future of the game at county level which just means they're killing it by pushing the county game to the fringes. Nobody wants to sit at an empty Edgbaston in April freezing to death, in some cases we've literally had snow when games should be on. And they're doing a successful job of killing the Blast so they can bin it off before rebranding the Hundred a T20 competition which I think everyone now accepts is inevitable.
chiefdave
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8 and 8 works but then brings you to your next problem. If the 8 test / hundred hosting grounds bring all the revenue then you want them as your top tier so you're working towards a no promotion / relegation scenario.
A top tier of Warwickshire, Surrey, Lancs, Yorks, Notts, Hampshire and Glamorgan. But then do you go Durham or Middlesex?
Which two teams out of Somerset, Sussex, Derbyshire, Leicestershire, Northants, Essex, Worcester and Glous are you dumping out of county cricket?
Or do you dump a couple into a semi-pro third tier with the 6 MCC universities?
3 tiers of 8 teams where there is a clear pathway, for example Worcester and Loughborough Uni being under the Warwickshire umbrella, might work well for player development without the smaller teams needing to generate revenue to match the big teams but its going to an incredibly hard sell to the members.
tisza
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It's 2 out of Derby, Leicester, Northants & Gloucester - probably the first 2. But which ever 2 remain are still going to be firmly tied to the bottom of the pyramid due to finances.
tisza
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Durham offer support to county cricket shake-up
Durham announce their support for a shake-up of English domestic cricket, including a rugby-style Grand Final to decide the County Championship.
www.bbc.com
lack of consensus and clarity between the counties just highlights how difficult it is trying to fix domestic cricket.
chiefdave
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Got home to see Yorks v Lancs on the TV last night. First thing I heard was Atherton bemoaning empty stands and talking about how the fixture used to be a guaranteed sell out.
I know I keep saying it but the Blast has been absolutely destroyed. Why is a premium fixture taking place on a weeknight?
The bizzare thing is that outside of the IPL every T20 competition is desperate for what the Blast has. People to feel some connection to the teams & players rather than viewing them as made up teams with flown in players who don't give a shit and are just there for a payday.
I know I keep saying it but the Blast has been absolutely destroyed. Why is a premium fixture taking place on a weeknight?
The bizzare thing is that outside of the IPL every T20 competition is desperate for what the Blast has. People to feel some connection to the teams & players rather than viewing them as made up teams with flown in players who don't give a shit and are just there for a payday.
chiefdave
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What the county championship absolutely does not need is another game at the end of the season that inevitably gets weather affected and results in nobody winning the competition.Durham offer support to county cricket shake-up
Durham announce their support for a shake-up of English domestic cricket, including a rugby-style Grand Final to decide the County Championship.
lack of consensus and clarity between the counties just highlights how difficult it is trying to fix domestic cricket.
tisza
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Remember our final 2021 - finished october. Nobody there at Lords. (but we did smash Lancs)
tisza
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equally annoying (from the games i've seen) it's not as if there has been any noticeable drop in standards/quality of cricket. Some of the names maybe be missing which doesn't help sell tickets but the product is still decent.
chiefdave
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The scheduling is shit. they've done exactly what was promised not to happen and stopped international cricket taking place during the Hundred.
When it first happened and people complained we were told it was a scheduling quirk, a hangover from trying to rescheule games from the covid days. But now its happened again. Not a single mens or womens international game during the Hundred. And as the Hundred is now the only cricket that takes place in the summer & school holidays they will use the fact that anyone shows up to show its a raging success when they've manufactured a situation where if you want to go to cricket its pretty much your only choice.
The knock on is the a compressed schedule for international cricket means the Blast is now constantly up against T20I & ODI on TV. Its a hard sell when there's discount / free tickets left, right and centre for the Hundred which seems to be embracing the Wasps business model.
Won't be long before they turn round and tell us crowds are down and the Blast isn't viable.
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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Bears going to town on Derby 147 of 13.3 overs.
thekidfromstrettoncamp
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Just lost their first wicket Latham out for 104 .Their 195-1 at the end 17.
Terry Gibson's perm
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Not really interested in the 100 but look forward to the one day cup you see some good players of the future.
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tisza
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Killing themselves. Despite what ECB say they've basically ceded control of English cricket to these new Hundred shareholders. These new shareholders are going to have the ECB by the balls when plans for the future are made in 27/28.
Rugby still suffering (and going to suffer) by selling off their future income streams to outside interests. Also seeing only having 8 teams in their main competition has diminished wider public interest and revenue streams.
chiefdave
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Seems the only people that can't see this, or are deliberately ignoring it, are the ECB. Now you've got IPL franchise owners involved we're fucked.
There was an interview with one of the franchise owners on Tailenders a couple of years back and it was a horrific insight into how they view cricket. Nothing is off the table in the drive for profit.
You can see it coming a mile off. They'll insist on it becoming a T20 competition which will be the end of the Blast. The One Day keep will keep drifting out of the picture (and then we'll wonder why England can't put out a decent ODI team when players have barely played that format).
Once they have control they'll expand it. Happens every time. Start a new competition because you need something shorter to keep peoples attention then immediately start talking about making it bigger. County Championship will have less and less of a window to be played until its decided it will have to run alongside the franchise competition and you have the level of squads we're seeing in the One Day Cup.
People keep saying we're not going to see IPL teams signing players to year(s) long contracts but it seems inevitable to me. When they have control of teams in pretty much every major T20 league they'll do exactly that. Not like we haven't already seen players coming though saying they aren't going to play red ball at all. Once that happens how long before the likes of the ECB are having to beg for a window to play the Ashes?
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Good start for Dawson