Those raising concerns are (in general) being denied coverage by the national press. Hence the only voices you get to hear are those who are in agreement with big Pharma.
When eminent expers like DR Robert W Malone MD (the man credited with the invention of Mrna vaccines) says we shouldn't be getting mass vaccinated for covid 19 you'd think that would make the news surely? Or at least it would generate some debate.
But no, these people are denied a voice.
Why is that the case?
Any one interested can still search Dr Malone on line, and for anyone not just happy to be spoon-fed BS by the media he makes very interesting if somewhat worrying reading.
I'm unvaccinated myself and had covid 2 weeks ago, so had plenty of time on my hands to read all sides of the argument.
What I found was quite shocking.
If your interested I'm my experience of having covid as a middle aged unvaccinated man with no underlying health issues. I can jonestly say I was rough for about 3 days, with flu like symptoms, and I lost my sence of taste and smell which has still not returned to normal as yet. The coughing was annoying but didn't get to my chest, I returned to work after 10 days but did feel very fatigued. The fatigue took longer to get over than I expected and was the hardest symptom to deal with.
That's my honest account of having covid.
Having a vaccine may have reduced the symptoms (I'll never know) but personally I'm happy I never had it. I now have natural immunity which I believe is better for me.
The medical consensus THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO HEAR say its bollocks.The medical consensus says that what you said is bollocks.
It's sad when your happy to link those who seek to discredit and rubbish the guy who invented the Mrna vaccine, but your not too keen to link any of his lectures or opinions on the subject.Ladies and gentleman here is Dr Robert Malone
How Dr Robert Malone invented Antivaxxery
“People who feel deprived of the credit that they think they deserve will gravitate to new friends who do at least pretend to respect them sufficiently.” -Smut Clydeforbetterscience.com
It's sad when your happy to link those who seek to discredit and rubbish the guy who invented the Mrna vaccine, but your not too keen to link any of his lectures or opinions on the subject.
You are just part of the machinery looking to shut down debate, and hide facts.
Be objective now and search his lectures and post them to allow readers the opportunity to have a balanced view.
Is that too much to ask?
Those raising concerns are (in general) being denied coverage by the national press. Hence the only voices you get to hear are those who are in agreement with big Pharma.
When eminent expers like DR Robert W Malone MD (the man credited with the invention of Mrna vaccines) says we shouldn't be getting mass vaccinated for covid 19 you'd think that would make the news surely? Or at least it would generate some debate.
But no, these people are denied a voice.
Why is that the case?
Any one interested can still search Dr Malone on line, and for anyone not just happy to be spoon-fed BS by the media he makes very interesting if somewhat worrying reading.
I'm unvaccinated myself and had covid 2 weeks ago, so had plenty of time on my hands to read all sides of the argument.
What I found was quite shocking.
If your interested I'm my experience of having covid as a middle aged unvaccinated man with no underlying health issues. I can jonestly say I was rough for about 3 days, with flu like symptoms, and I lost my sence of taste and smell which has still not returned to normal as yet. The coughing was annoying but didn't get to my chest, I returned to work after 10 days but did feel very fatigued. The fatigue took longer to get over than I expected and was the hardest symptom to deal with.
That's my honest account of having covid.
Having a vaccine may have reduced the symptoms (I'll never know) but personally I'm happy I never had it. I now have natural immunity which I believe is better for me.
The Vaccine Scientist Spreading Vaccine Misinformation
Robert Malone claims to have invented mRNA technology. Why is he trying so hard to undermine its use?amp.theatlantic.com
How can there be a debate on consensus? There are so few rogues on this particular subject, that it's not possible to have a debate, as they're in such a savage minority.The medical consensus THAT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO HEAR say its bollocks.
If its Bollocks, why is there no open debate, why are so many qualified experts being shut down.
Your clearly set in your beliefs, which is fine, good for you.
I'm happy to sit tight and wait for the inevitable mass health problems that will inevitable occur. The only people who arnt worrying are the unvaccinated.
If you have any genuine interest in listening to medically qualified experts who are expressing genuine concerns then pm me your whatsapp and I'll forward plenty of info for you to listen to.
The problem is when you see anti vaxxers on TV or Media they quote genuine medical people that gives apparent justification
One the other day was Coleman - he is a qualified doctor - but an absolute crank who said heterosexuals can’t get AIDS and opposes vaccines full stop.
I can put Doctor in front of my name, and you sure as hell wouldn't want me advising on infectious diseases and vaccines...You also sometimes get the healthcare professionals/scientists who are named, but when you research further they work in completely separate areas and nothing related to vaccinations.
There was that case mentioned in the Coronavirus thread where someones "expert" contact was a nutritionist...
People see 'doctor' and go with it
I've just done exactly that and found that Malone's claims to have invented mRNA vaccines could charitably be described as disputed. When questioned on these claims it seems he points to an article written by his wife as proof of his claims.Any one interested can still search Dr Malone on line, and for anyone not just happy to be spoon-fed BS by the media he makes very interesting if somewhat worrying reading.
You don't even need to do that. There was a documentary on the BBC that was filmed at Walsgrave.Go and visit the hospitals and see the wards full of people who choose not to get vaccinated, now wising they had !!
That would be me. My initial consultant appointment at UHCW was postponed for 18 months. I've now been referred for tests but warned that due to the backlog the wait will be over a year.Go and speak with the people waiting for non covid treatments who cannot get treated due to non vaccinated people filling the beds
To be fair
I'm past giving a toss whos vaccinated and who ain't.
We're 2 years down the line almost and were still in the shit.
Doest look like any avenue attempted so far works, does it?
It's a damned site better than it was last Christmas. If it wasn't, we wouldn't be talking about going to a football match, let alone the only limit on it being a swab up your nose for 10 seconds.To be fair
I'm past giving a toss whos vaccinated and who ain't.
We're 2 years down the line almost and were still in the shit.
Doest look like any avenue attempted so far works, does it?
To be fair
That makes you part of the problem as to why we are still in the shit
It's a damned site better than it was last Christmas. If it wasn't, we wouldn't be talking about going to a football match, let alone the only limit on it being a swab up your nose for 10 seconds.
Oh does it mate? Ive had 2 jabs so suck arse you parsnip
What I'm thoroughly baffled at is the outrage from some. As it stands, there are no restrictions on actually doing anything, they just ask you to take some measures to help slow spread of a deadly virus. Coventry City fans facebook page is thoroughly depressing, a number of people saying how you just scan in your Covid LFT and say it's negative. I mean why the fuck wouldn't you just take the test at that point?!? Whatever your views of control, it's a special kind of person who wilfully inflicts an infectious disease with the potential to kill, whatever it is, on somebody else.Agree with that, but it's more the divide thats nauseating now
'HE HASNT HAD A JA HES A MASSIVE TWAT KILLING PEOPLE
'HE'S TRIPLE JABBED HES A SHEEP WHO HAST RESEARCHED ANYTHING'
its well boring
We wouldn't be able to consider going to football unless the intervention by the vaccination programme was in place.To be fair
I'm past giving a toss whos vaccinated and who ain't.
We're 2 years down the line almost and were still in the shit.
Doest look like any avenue attempted so far works, does it?
As most people on here know my preference is to do that so don't try and use it as an insult please
And again getting offensive when being called it isn't a very good look is it (and is part of the problem)
@fatso, What reason does the national press have to deny coverage of those who are raising concerns?Those raising concerns are (in general) being denied coverage by the national press. Hence the only voices you get to hear are those who are in agreement with big Pharma.
When eminent expers like DR Robert W Malone MD (the man credited with the invention of Mrna vaccines) says we shouldn't be getting mass vaccinated for covid 19 you'd think that would make the news surely? Or at least it would generate some debate.
But no, these people are denied a voice.
Why is that the case?
Any one interested can still search Dr Malone on line, and for anyone not just happy to be spoon-fed BS by the media he makes very interesting if somewhat worrying reading.
I'm unvaccinated myself and had covid 2 weeks ago, so had plenty of time on my hands to read all sides of the argument.
What I found was quite shocking.
If your interested I'm my experience of having covid as a middle aged unvaccinated man with no underlying health issues. I can jonestly say I was rough for about 3 days, with flu like symptoms, and I lost my sence of taste and smell which has still not returned to normal as yet. The coughing was annoying but didn't get to my chest, I returned to work after 10 days but did feel very fatigued. The fatigue took longer to get over than I expected and was the hardest symptom to deal with.
That's my honest account of having covid.
Having a vaccine may have reduced the symptoms (I'll never know) but personally I'm happy I never had it. I now have natural immunity which I believe is better for me.
Being called out as what?
Are you calling me pro vax? Anti vax? Im snookered here
Moaning that you can't be arsed with it all but then moaning nothing is happening to make it better, bit contradictory isn't it
Just fucking sick of it. Always someone with an opinion ( not aimed at you )
Got loads of them at work. A few who shout about those who aren't jabbed being the issue, then those that arent jab blaming them and vice versa.
Just fucking sick of it. Always someone with an opinion ( not aimed at you )
Got loads of them at work. A few who shout about those who aren't jabbed being the issue, then those that arent jab blaming them and vice versa.
You don't even need to do that. There was a documentary on the BBC that was filmed at Walsgrave.
BBC Two - Hospital, Series 7, Episode 1
With their critical care unit at capacity, University Hospital fights to restore services.www.bbc.co.uk
That would be me. My initial consultant appointment at UHCW was postponed for 18 months. I've now been referred for tests but warned that due to the backlog the wait will be over a year.
Or it makes him someone who's actually prepared to ask the questions that need asking!To be fair
That makes you part of the problem as to why we are still in the shit
Apparently,the new mutations occur in the vaccinated, not the unvaccinated.
If your unvaccinated, your body will eventually kill the virus (if the virus doesn't kill you first)
But in the vaccinated, the virus can still live on even after you have no symptoms.
This apparently is when it can mutate.
Also, if your unvaccinated, and you come into contact with an infected person, you MUST isolate. But if your vaccinated you don't have to isolate, so your free to potentially spread the virus further!
So in short, the vaccinated are spreading the virus, and incubating new variants!
Or indeed, on any part...Do we really have to put up with TikTok doctors’ antivaxx crackpot theories on this part of the forum?
That was in the documentary, some slack jawed American's were in it insisting that she was and that their children are stolen sex-slaves! Amazing.Michelle Obama is a man.
Nhs appwhich fucking all is it there are about ten on the app store
NHS App
NHS Covid Pass Verifier
NHS COVID-19
NHS Scotland Covid Status (assuming not this one)
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